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Old 04-08-2013, 06:45 AM   #251
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More spoilers. This tie, via the IM3 storybook. Again, some details from the film were left out.


Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:




Savin wears the Iron Patriot suit


Well, well, well. It seems Marvel has fooled us once again. Early on in filming in North Carolina, the Iron Patriot armor was noticed and everyone assumed that the man inside was James Badge Dale. Marvel of course debunked these rumors. But now that we have this tie-in book it is clear that they were fibbing. The book reads:

"And Tony and Rhodey had yet another problem on their hands: Savin was wearing the Iron Patriot armor and was heading toward Air Force One-for the President of the United States!"

You can see Savin in the suit above. Also, I would like to point out that earlier the book tells us that the Mandarin had taken it from Rhodey.




Maya Hansen is EVIL

From the very beginning, Rebecca Hall's Maya Hansen character has be shrouded in mystery. Well, at least who's side she was on. But now thank you to this book, we know that Maya Hansen is very, very bad.

"Tony snuck into the Mandarin's mansion. Unfortunately, as he was about to confront the villain, He was knocked out from behind!

He woke to find himself in a cell-with Rhodey! Out of the shadows stepped Killian and Maya. From them, Tony learned the Mandarin had the Iron Patriot armor and that Killian and Maya were working for the villain! Killian cackled with delight, but Tony had a plan."

Hmmm... I'm sure this will be a big plot twist for non-spoiler lovers! ;P






Pepper and President Ellis get kidnapped

We figured from the scene in the trailer that Pepper was in trouble, but we had no idea the President ends up being kidnapped!

After Tony catches up to Savin on Air Force One, they get into a huge battle where the fire repulsor blasts back at one another. One blast hit the exterior of the plane and people started flying out. Tony blasts Savin into a wall and the following commences:

"He dove down, and the passenger he had locked arms with then locked his arm with the next person falling. This continued with each falling passenger all the way down, resulting in a strange, midair monkey ladder.

During the commotion aboard Air Force One, Savin trapped the President with him inside the Iron Patriot suit and rocketed out of the plane with him. He had kidnapped President Ellis!

With the President in his grasp, the Mandarin released another video message.

The villain was holding the president high above an oil tanker. The Mandarin's plan was to ignite the oil onboard, causing a giant explosion and contaminating the waters of the Gulf Coast.

And to make the matters worse, the bomb was going to go off on December 25th-Christmas Day!"

From this, we know that the Mandarin is sure good at improvising! As for the Pepper kidnapping, the book does not specify how the Mandarin has taken her, but it does confirm she is at the docks.






The finale features the Iron Men vs. the Extremis Soldiers



No much of a surprise here, but at least we know that we are getting real, super-powered villains.

"All of Tony's Iron Man suits had come to save the day! There was HEARTBREAKER, RED SNAPPER, SILVER CENTURION, BONES, SHOTGUN, AND HAMMERHEAD! EVEN NIGHTCLUB, GEMINI, and the behemoth IGOR had come for a fight!

Wasting no time, the Iron Men quickly attacked, firing Repulsor beams and missiles at all of the super-powered Extremis guards. Explosions rang out as armors were destroyed and Extremis guards were defeated. Meanwhile, Rhodey ran off to rescue the President and reclaim the Iron Patriot armor while Tony went to save Pepper from a particularly large and intimidating Extremis guard."

What's interesting is that the book does not say the Mandarin comes in the final battle. In fact, it says that the Mandarin and Killian are "Still on the loose". If this part is true (though I think it is complete bull), we could definitely be looking at a Masters of Evil type thing.





The Mandarin's headquarters are in his Miami mansion



The Mandarin's base is his mansion in Miami. The relation to Osama Bin Laden aside, this seemingly proves that the Mandarin is American, or at least liver there. The book confirms numerous things like this being the location of "his lair" where he "conducts the video messages" and where him and "Killian get down do business".





Harley and Tony are attacked by Savin and Brandt


We've all heard about Harley through various interviews around the film. He seems like a great supporting character. With this, many were still concerned that we may not get any action at the time in the movie where him and Tony share the screen. Well fear not, because it seems that Savin and Brandt are continuously pursuing the billionaire superhero.

"Tony turned to see two people charging toward them, but they didn't look like regular people. Savin was glowing with energy and Brandt's hands were radiating heat. Using their enhanced abilities, they attacked Tony and Harley!

Yelling to Harley, Tony told him to use that silver capsule he gave him earlier. Harley did as instructed and threw the capsule at Savin. The capsule exploded, temporarily blinding Savin and allowing Harley to escape.
Meanwhile, Brandt had Tony cornered. But just as she was about to attack, Tony pulled back his sleeve to reveal a makeshift Repulsor ray. He fired a blast at Brandt, that knocked her across the street and into the snow!"

I'm personally really excited to see this Tony/Harley dynamic on the big screen!




Now for the smaller spoilers...


Tony is being interviewed outside the hospital, of which Happy is staying


The movie seems to be much like the first film in the sense of starting out with our hero in trouble, then flashing back to the beginning


In Tony's 1999 flashback, Killian was in a very unhealthy condition, but in present day, he's as fit as a horse


Tony is the one who completed the Extremis formula


More Iron Man 1 nostalgia comes in as Tony goes to the Middle East to fight terrorists


In the Middle East is where Tony is first introduced to the Mandarin as he threatens the US


Early on in the flick, Tony and Rhodey park their armors outside a diner


Tony appears to be having more heart issues as he gets pain and needs to leave the diner rather quickly


The Mandarin reads a fortune cookie on camera that says "You will destroy Iron Man today"


During the attack on Tony's mansion, the suit's missiles won't work so Tony throws them manually at the Choppers


Tony also uses other things like his Baby Grand piano to destroy them


The reason why Tony only has two pieces of the armor at a point in the film is because the rest of it was stuck in Harley's shed


The Mark XLII armor flies across the country numerous times to reach Tony


Tony blows up the XLII during the final battle


Tony gives Harley a high-tech science lab at the end





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During the attack on Tony's mansion, the suit's missiles won't work so Tony throws them manually at the Choppers


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I really would like to see Mandarin and Iron Man Go at it in a final fight kind of thing I mean they have been marketing it that way with Tony Saying "It's just you and me" There needs to be a final fight. The only satisfying Final Fight we have gotten from a Marvel Movie is The Incredible Hulk with Abom and Hulk thrashing it out in the middle of Brooklyn

I was well satisfied with the final fights in IM and CATFA and of course TA. Thor's was ok and IM2's was as well if you count the whole action sequence with the drone chase/fight as the final battle(I do see it that way) since fighting Vanko's dones = fighting Vanko in the same way that fighting nameless personality-less chituari aliens = fighting Loki as these cannon fodder types are merely an extension of the villain himself. Obviously Abomination isn't a mastermind type of villain so that wasn't even a possibility with him.

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Thor definitely has my favorite confrontation. The Destroyer scene is weak, but Thor and Loki is emotional as it has got.

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That's what saves that end fight in Thor for me.

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General audiences aren't going to care what happens to Mandarin after IM3. All they know is that they get two great actors playing two great villains, Killian and Mandarin, in a great Iron Man movie. If they leave the door open for one or both of those characters to come back in future movies, all well and good; but audiences aren't going to demand that the next installment of IM's story be a continuation of this one.

And fanboys expressing faux nerdrage about the Mandarin getting nerfed or shortchanged in this movie need a comic-book reality check: Mandarin is *not* The Joker. He is *not* Lex Luthor. Nor Green Goblin, or Magneto. Yeah, he's been in a lot of Iron Man books over the past 50 years, but his status as "nemesis" is vastly overrated. He doesn't have a history with Tony that is as intimately tied with Iron Man as Joker is to Batman, or Luthor to Superman, or Gobby to Spidey, or Magneto to the X-Men. Those are eternal clashes. Mandarin is just the most common and most outlandish villain in a long series of ****ty villains in Iron Man's notoriously lame rogues' gallery.
And your choice for Iron Man's nemesis is....?

Face it, man. Mandarin is it. Even Feige has said it. Just because you don't like the character, it doesn't mean that he isn't the biggest bad in IM's rogues gallery. So let's put away the "faux nerdrage" jokes and call it what it is: a missed opportunity for a superhero vs. nemesis showdown (if the spoilers are true, which I'm still not sure of).

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More spoilers. This tie, via the IM3 storybook. Again, some details from the film were left out.


Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:




Savin wears the Iron Patriot suit


Well, well, well. It seems Marvel has fooled us once again. Early on in filming in North Carolina, the Iron Patriot armor was noticed and everyone assumed that the man inside was James Badge Dale. Marvel of course debunked these rumors. But now that we have this tie-in book it is clear that they were fibbing. The book reads:

"And Tony and Rhodey had yet another problem on their hands: Savin was wearing the Iron Patriot armor and was heading toward Air Force One-for the President of the United States!"

You can see Savin in the suit above. Also, I would like to point out that earlier the book tells us that the Mandarin had taken it from Rhodey.




Maya Hansen is EVIL

From the very beginning, Rebecca Hall's Maya Hansen character has be shrouded in mystery. Well, at least who's side she was on. But now thank you to this book, we know that Maya Hansen is very, very bad.

"Tony snuck into the Mandarin's mansion. Unfortunately, as he was about to confront the villain, He was knocked out from behind!

He woke to find himself in a cell-with Rhodey! Out of the shadows stepped Killian and Maya. From them, Tony learned the Mandarin had the Iron Patriot armor and that Killian and Maya were working for the villain! Killian cackled with delight, but Tony had a plan."

Hmmm... I'm sure this will be a big plot twist for non-spoiler lovers! ;P






Pepper and President Ellis get kidnapped

We figured from the scene in the trailer that Pepper was in trouble, but we had no idea the President ends up being kidnapped!

After Tony catches up to Savin on Air Force One, they get into a huge battle where the fire repulsor blasts back at one another. One blast hit the exterior of the plane and people started flying out. Tony blasts Savin into a wall and the following commences:

"He dove down, and the passenger he had locked arms with then locked his arm with the next person falling. This continued with each falling passenger all the way down, resulting in a strange, midair monkey ladder.

During the commotion aboard Air Force One, Savin trapped the President with him inside the Iron Patriot suit and rocketed out of the plane with him. He had kidnapped President Ellis!

With the President in his grasp, the Mandarin released another video message.

The villain was holding the president high above an oil tanker. The Mandarin's plan was to ignite the oil onboard, causing a giant explosion and contaminating the waters of the Gulf Coast.

And to make the matters worse, the bomb was going to go off on December 25th-Christmas Day!"

From this, we know that the Mandarin is sure good at improvising! As for the Pepper kidnapping, the book does not specify how the Mandarin has taken her, but it does confirm she is at the docks.






The finale features the Iron Men vs. the Extremis Soldiers


No much of a surprise here, but at least we know that we are getting real, super-powered villains.

"All of Tony's Iron Man suits had come to save the day! There was HEARTBREAKER, RED SNAPPER, SILVER CENTURION, BONES, SHOTGUN, AND HAMMERHEAD! EVEN NIGHTCLUB, GEMINI, and the behemoth IGOR had come for a fight!

Wasting no time, the Iron Men quickly attacked, firing Repulsor beams and missiles at all of the super-powered Extremis guards. Explosions rang out as armors were destroyed and Extremis guards were defeated. Meanwhile, Rhodey ran off to rescue the President and reclaim the Iron Patriot armor while Tony went to save Pepper from a particularly large and intimidating Extremis guard."

What's interesting is that the book does not say the Mandarin comes in the final battle. In fact, it says that the Mandarin and Killian are "Still on the loose". If this part is true (though I think it is complete bull), we could definitely be looking at a Masters of Evil type thing.





The Mandarin's headquarters are in his Miami mansion


The Mandarin's base is his mansion in Miami. The relation to Osama Bin Laden aside, this seemingly proves that the Mandarin is American, or at least liver there. The book confirms numerous things like this being the location of "his lair" where he "conducts the video messages" and where him and "Killian get down do business".





Harley and Tony are attacked by Savin and Brandt


We've all heard about Harley through various interviews around the film. He seems like a great supporting character. With this, many were still concerned that we may not get any action at the time in the movie where him and Tony share the screen. Well fear not, because it seems that Savin and Brandt are continuously pursuing the billionaire superhero.

"Tony turned to see two people charging toward them, but they didn't look like regular people. Savin was glowing with energy and Brandt's hands were radiating heat. Using their enhanced abilities, they attacked Tony and Harley!

Yelling to Harley, Tony told him to use that silver capsule he gave him earlier. Harley did as instructed and threw the capsule at Savin. The capsule exploded, temporarily blinding Savin and allowing Harley to escape.
Meanwhile, Brandt had Tony cornered. But just as she was about to attack, Tony pulled back his sleeve to reveal a makeshift Repulsor ray. He fired a blast at Brandt, that knocked her across the street and into the snow!"

I'm personally really excited to see this Tony/Harley dynamic on the big screen!




Now for the smaller spoilers...


Tony is being interviewed outside the hospital, of which Happy is staying


The movie seems to be much like the first film in the sense of starting out with our hero in trouble, then flashing back to the beginning


In Tony's 1999 flashback, Killian was in a very unhealthy condition, but in present day, he's as fit as a horse


Tony is the one who completed the Extremis formula


More Iron Man 1 nostalgia comes in as Tony goes to the Middle East to fight terrorists


In the Middle East is where Tony is first introduced to the Mandarin as he threatens the US


Early on in the flick, Tony and Rhodey park their armors outside a diner


Tony appears to be having more heart issues as he gets pain and needs to leave the diner rather quickly


The Mandarin reads a fortune cookie on camera that says "You will destroy Iron Man today"


During the attack on Tony's mansion, the suit's missiles won't work so Tony throws them manually at the Choppers


Tony also uses other things like his Baby Grand piano to destroy them


The reason why Tony only has two pieces of the armor at a point in the film is because the rest of it was stuck in Harley's shed


The Mark XLII armor flies across the country numerous times to reach Tony


Tony blows up the XLII during the final battle


Tony gives Harley a high-tech science lab at the end





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Haven't I been speculating all of this *almost exactly* for the past few months....? Why yes, Sam, yes, I have. But lo, yea and forsooth, the masses chose to follow the false prophets, and I have been one voice crying in the wilderness.....



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And your choice for Iron Man's nemesis is....?

Face it, man. Mandarin is it. Even Feige has said it. Just because you don't like the character, it doesn't mean that he isn't the biggest bad in IM's rogues gallery. So let's put away the "faux nerdrage" jokes and call it what it is: a missed opportunity for a superhero vs. nemesis showdown (if the spoilers are true, which I'm still not sure of).
How about: NO nemesis? Who says a superhero *has* to have an archnemesis, anyway? Iron Man's comic book rogues' gallery has been more an evolution of whatever socio-political environment was in vogue at the time. He fought Cold War Commies; Reagan-era corporate greed; the military-industrial complex; and in more recent years, crimelords, mad scientists, and terrorists.

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Haven't I been speculating all of this *almost exactly* for the past few months....? Why yes, Sam, yes, I have. But lo, yea and forsooth, the masses chose to follow the false prophets, and I have been one voice crying in the wilderness.....





How about: NO nemesis? Who says a superhero *has* to have an archnemesis, anyway? Iron Man's comic book rogues' gallery has been more an evolution of whatever socio-political environment was in vogue at the time. He fought Cold War Commies; Reagan-era corporate greed; the military-industrial complex; and in more recent years, crimelords, mad scientists, and terrorists.
That's the nature of comic books. If you're going to insist on having stories that never end with characters that never die, you need a recurring foil. Again, just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it's not the case. Mandarin is Tony's nemesis in the comics. Ever since IM1 was announced, people have been asking "When are we getting the Mandarin?" No one was saying, "When are we getting Ghost?" Why? Because most people accept the fact that Mandarin is the equivalent to Joker, Lex, etc. He's the most recognizable foe of the superhero.

And just so we're clear, he's the weakest character of any of the aforementioned nemesisessess, IMO. Doesn't take away his status, though.

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You called it a deconstruction of a superhero film. Nothing in your spoilers indicate that. Nor do they display an anti-superhero film.
As said, this will just remain the point where I allign with Black and Feige, and you deviate from them.

Unsure what the Black paragraph was to. But the easiest way of knowing what is his and someone else's is the brand of humor in the moments.

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RDJ receives a birthday card with 5339 signatures at the Iron Man 3 Chinese Premiere. Its a new world record.

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YEAH! I love RDJ. I hope he's around for a while. He loves it. He loves this ****.

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You can tell he's really grateful to have such a huge career Resurrection 2nd chances don't always come around, and boy....he got the second chance of a lifetime, and he loves every second of it, he's the freaking man!

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You can tell he's really grateful to have such a huge career Resurrection 2nd chances don't always come around, and boy....he got the second chance of a lifetime, and he loves every second of it, he's the freaking man!
I totally agree ! The man took his 2nd chance and did everything the right way . RDJ is truly an awesome man .

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I think there's too much Harley , through , I think it's an excellent idea to have more supporting characters than in previous movies

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As the runtime speculation rages on, Fandango lists IM3 as being 2hr 20min.

It also ranked #1 on their Most Anticipated 2013 Summer Movie Survey.

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As the runtime speculation rages on, Fandango lists IM3 as being 2hr 20min.

It also ranked #1 on their Most Anticipated 2013 Summer Movie Survey.
I would be so content with that runtime.

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The fortune cookie isn't that in the book. But if that's true -- that's much better and funnier.

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so many spoilers!!! "look away, look away!"

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Tony Stark dies at the end.

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Rhodey takes his place. This is actually the film telling us how Rhodey became Nick Fury's "brother from another mother" on the Avengers team. Killian is also set up to become Ant Man.

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One of the "spoilers" shouldn't have been a "spoiler" if any of you read Extremis. I called that one from the start, even though there was a lot of misinformation thrown about.

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Old 04-08-2013, 03:33 PM   #274
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