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I am not bashing the series at all, I did enjoy them but ONLY after I started watching them more as james bond movies. I guess im just spoiled because i grew up with the tim burton and Schumacher movies (by that i mean Batman Forever only), and the 60's batman show. those all had that comic book feel and were more, well, batman-y and fun. however i don't consider the Nolan movies as bad films, but i find they work MUCH better as james bond films since the whole tone and feel of them, even the villians like bane and Ras, and female villians like talia, are all much more like stuff you'd seen in 007 style movies, minus the fun. the titles don't even have batman in the title. the look of the vehicles, the gadgets, NOTHING is batman styled like they used to be. all except the little batarang things and that's about it. the only parts of the movies i thought felt "batman" were the batcave scenes and certain parts like that. luscious is Q, talia is really no different then the typical bond femme fatale, and even catwoman isnt very , uh, "catty". isn't even in her costume half the time. TDKR had even less batman then the other 2. the batsignal didn't even make an appearance (working that is). same with the batmobile (or "tumbler", ugh). all the cop sh** was boring and tiresome, especially in TDKR. i found that if i just thought of the recent films as james bond in a cape, its easier to accept and enjoy. that reactor thing was something straight out of a bond plot. but i really cant look at these movies as real "batman" movies. they are way too different and nothing at ALL like the comic books hardly. defiantly elseworlds if anything, like "what if batman was in our world" kinda thing. but the implosive bomb in TDKR, car chases, are all bond type stuff. not expecting anyone to agree with me but that's just how I feel about it.
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Nah, I'll watch them as Batman films, lol.
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didn't read my post obviously.
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I can't take this thread seriously at all.
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Depends what James Bond you are talking about. Definitely not like the old Bond movies. I haven't seen the Daniel Craig ones, so maybe that's what he/she meant.
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I've seen and own all 23 Bond movies. I am a huge Bond fan.
Every single thing the OP mentioned can be found in the Batman comics. Even Lucius Fox and the R&D of W.E. being a source of tech for Batman's gadgets.
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screw the comics that's not what im talking about. im talking about the style tone and "make" of the recent films. they are not styled at all like a comic book, and remind me more of how a bond movie tries to be realistic yet fantastical. this is what Nolan pulled off grandly but its not how a batman movie should be in my book. ive never seen any of the villians look the way they do, especially joker and such. too much was changed from the comic books. its like Nolan said hey I want to make a james bond movie but oh well ill just take batman and james bond-ify him so its not like a comic at all but more like an average action movie similar to bond. for me, a batman movie shouldn't be trying to copy the style of a bond movie but to be its own thing. now you cant tell the difference.
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The comic books, by the way, don't have a single consistent interpretation of a character. The latest version of the Joker has his own face cut off and then reattached with a belt.
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http://www.facebook.com/notes/batman...24092317631826 For movies you say are not made the way a comic book movie should, they certainly impressed a lot of notable comic book people.
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Calling all of these legendary Batman names sycophants is just an act of bitter jealousy.
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I disagree with the OP. Nolans movies are different but probably the most accurate, thus far, to specific Batman comics and graphic novels than any previous Batman live-action film. Ill watch the trilogy as Batman movies thank you. James Bond in a cape? You're sounding silly. It's absolutely Bruce Wayne's character in a cape.
BTW Talia has always been like a femme-fatale Bond kind of a girl in the comics.
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Sp people so heavily immersed in Batman for a living would be the most critical of what is good and what isn't. If they praise something then they mean it. They don't say it for the heck of it. Look at what Matt Wagner said about Burton's Batman:
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This thread is just another way of saying that Nolan treated these movies as action films, not "comic book" films. Which is exactly why people fell in love with them in the first place. It was exhilarating to see such a beloved, legendary character placed on a platform where you could buy into the reality of what was happening a bit. It gave everything more weight. And they've become so iconic in their own right that they influenced the Bond franchise.
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Read the links. The proof is all there. Why should anyone care what Kane says with such a dishonest background regarding Batman? Quote:
You're such a hypocrite. I didn't even bring up Bob Kane. YOU did.
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Um... weren't you the first person jumping to discredit Bob Kane in this thread?
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Ill watch the movies the exact same way I watch every other movie I have ever seen.
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I thought you were bringing that up as another example of what you called "sycophantism." Not sure how else to interpret it in the context. So it was just a random aside / digression?
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