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View Poll Results: What do YOU think Thor Dark World will do?
500 Million 8 7.08%
550 Million 10 8.85%
600 Million 10 8.85%
650 Million 10 8.85%
700 Million 17 15.04%
750 Million 16 14.16%
800 Million 22 19.47%
850 Million 8 7.08%
900 Million 3 2.65%
950 Million 1 0.88%
1 Billion plus 8 7.08%
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Old 04-10-2013, 09:06 PM   #51
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I've already had a similar argument with Mr. Dent and I don't really feel like having it again. I'm just telling you what I've observed. We're not going to agree on this though, so there's no point in trying to prove anything.


Are you talking about comic sales? We're talking about the film characters here, specifically after The Avengers was released.
I'm using comic sales only as an example to show how popularity changes. It could've been merchandising sales or anything else really.

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Anyway, why is there so much discussion about cap in early box office prediction thread about Thor?

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I'm using comic sales only as an example to show how popularity changes. It could've been merchandising sales or anything else really.
Yeah, but we're not talking about the characters as a whole here, we're talking about the characters in the film only. Comics are a totally different medium.

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Anyway, why is there so much discussion about cap in early box office prediction thread about Thor?
It's not about Cap really, it's more about Thor, just using Cap as an example because he's the closest to Thor in terms of popularity.

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Yeah, but we're not talking about the characters as a whole here, we're talking about the characters in the film only. Comics are a totally different medium.
Not exactly. As stated before, many of the polls discussed here were answered by comic book fans mostly. In that sense, comics (and the popularity the respective characters have) are relevant for this discussion.

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Not exactly. As stated before, many of the polls discussed here were answered by comic book fans mostly. In that sense, comics (and the popularity the respective characters have) are relevant for this discussion.
Comic sales don't tell you anything about how popular the characters were in the movies. Let's say Thor is selling more than Spider-Man at the moment (This is just an example, doesn't matter if it actually is), Thor's rise in popularity is definitely due to the films, but it doesn't determine how popular that character was in the film itself. I mean Hulk should be on top of the comic book world according to that logic, more so than everyone else. So the CBM and SHH favorite character polls are the only way to know how popular the characters are to the fans.

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I never said comic sales (or popularity in comics) tell anything about popularity in the movies.
However, what I said is that it does influence polls made on sites frequented mostly by comic book fans.
Hence, these polls are not exacly objective if you want to measure how popular such characters really are in the movies. That's obvious.

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If comics influence people's votes why is Iron Man 4th and Loki 2nd? What was Loki doing in the comics at that time? Iron Man was Marvel's poster boy in the comics. Loki wasn't doing anything much.

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If comics influence people's votes why is Iron Man 4th and Loki 2nd? What was Loki doing in the comics at that time? Iron Man was Marvel's poster boy in the comics. Loki wasn't doing anything much.
Loki... I don't know.
But Iron Man is easy: even with his popularity in the movies, he's usually the lowest seller from the Avengers' individual books.

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my personal ranking out of those from just the context of the movie itself:

Hulk (best Hulk yet, plus great scenes)
Thor (My favorite phase 1 movie, pretty solid showing of power)
Loki (Great and sinister villian)
IM (Good scenes and banter with the other's in the film)
Hawkeye (Not a fan of him during the brainwash, but badass character and loved the arrow action scenes)
Cap (loved him taking the reins and leading, need more fighting/athletic scenes)
Coulson (It's Phil, what's not to like?)
Widow (fun to look at, didn't do anything special)
Fury (Cool character, needs to shoot more bazookas )
Hill (not the best performance, would have like to see more of her, liked her cut opening scene personally.)

*I hate putting Cap that low, but I really loved Hawkeye, want to see more of him this Phase

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That's some nice research you did there, but something you have to take into account is whether you're talking about the brand names or the characters themselves, because search results tell you more about the brand names, while character polls tell you more about the characters themselves. In my case, I'm talking about the characters of Captain America and Thor, and as shown by the Facebook and CBM poll, as well as the many random internet polls out there, Steve Rogers/Captain America was more popular in that regard:
http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/l.../thor-19691231
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=382417
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Thor as a brand is no doubt more popular, especially now that the trailer is almost here. But I was arguing BT's comment that Thor was the 3rd most popular character in the movie, which IMO isn't the case.

But anyway, this is the box office thread and I don't want to derail the topic here. Thor definitely has a chance to make the kind of money The Amazing Spider-Man made.
With the exception of that Rolling Stones article, those polls only show how fan boys viewed the characters.

From the get go my point was that Thor was the 3rd most popular with the GA, which I still stand by btw.

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From the get go my point was that Thor was the 3rd most popular with the GA, which I still stand by btw.
Well either way, all of the characters are popular so it doesn't matter which one of us is right. It's like arguing which is better between Krispy Kreme donuts and Oreo milkshakes.

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Well either way, all of the characters are popular so it doesn't matter which one of us is right. It's like arguing which is better between Krispy Kreme donuts and Oreo milkshakes.
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Well either way, all of the characters are popular so it doesn't matter which one of us is right. It's like arguing which is better between Krispy Kreme donuts and Oreo milkshakes.
oreo milkshakes.

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After watching the trailer
Domestic - I think this might perform like Oz, so $180 million to $240 million.
Worldwide - $500 million to $700 million

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Domestic - I think this might perform like Oz, so $180 million to $240 million.
Worldwide - $500 million to $700 million
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WW gross = 500 at the absolute maximum. I don't see this doing Iron Man numbers, heck i don't see it doing superman numbers. I just don't think casual fans or even filmmakers give Thor the billion dollar treatment it deserves, maybe one day after a reboot or two, but i see this performing the weakest out of the phase 2 films.

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I think internationally at least, this will do a lot better than MoS. From the trailer this is going to be the "Empire Strikes Back" of this series. This definitely has Alan Taylor's touch on it, and it's far more gritty and dark than Branagh's film.

I think it can do IM1 type numbers, providing Catching Fire doesn't take too much steam away. Holiday films always seem to have pretty good legs.

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WW gross = 500 at the absolute maximum. I don't see this doing Iron Man numbers, heck i don't see it doing superman numbers. I just don't think casual fans or even filmmakers give Thor the billion dollar treatment it deserves, maybe one day after a reboot or two, but i see this performing the weakest out of the phase 2 films.
I see GotG performing the weakest due to it not having any nameworthy Avengers characters and its public awareness is not all that great.

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I'm saying $250-300 M domestic, 400-500 M foreign. It won't do $1 B, but definitely more than $500 M, and likely more than Iron Man 1 & 2.

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WW gross = 500 at the absolute maximum. I don't see this doing Iron Man numbers, heck i don't see it doing superman numbers. I just don't think casual fans or even filmmakers give Thor the billion dollar treatment it deserves, maybe one day after a reboot or two, but i see this performing the weakest out of the phase 2 films.
You do realize that Thor 1 almost did $500 M, and since then the character has been in a movie that did $1.5 B, correct? Just checking to see if we're on the same page...

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I'm going to say $650M WW. The two Marvel Studios movies this year will put them over $1.5B for the second year in a row.

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I'm saying $250-300 M domestic, 400-500 M foreign. It won't do $1 B, but definitely more than $500 M, and likely more than Iron Man 1 & 2.
I was thinking about the same numbers as you, basically around the 700 million range.

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I was thinking about the same numbers as you, basically around the 700 million range.
Yeah. I think 800 M would be a stretch, but I can't see it doing any less than Iron Man 2.

I think we'll basically be able to ball park Cap and Thor's post-Avengers jumps based on how much of a boost Iron Man 3 gets. If Iron Man clears $1 Billion by a significant margin, I think that Thor's chances for $800 M+ go up. But right now I'm leaning $1 B for IM3, $700 M for Thor: TDW, and $580 M for CA: TWS.

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