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I'm not asking you to understand, never did. And if you really and truly feel it's a problem that you can't understand where I'm coming from, that's on you. You need to let it go. ![]() Last edited by ThePowerCosmic; 04-10-2013 at 10:02 PM. |
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I don't need to do anything, if I want to understand why you feel the way you do I have the right to question you. You don't have to respond if you don't want to.
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![]() I do want to respond. It's not like I want to ignore you. However, you need to let this particular thing go, because I've answered it as best as I could. If you don't want to let it go, fine by me. Have at it. |
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That said, I'm pretty sure Kevin Feige said the Russo bros were going for a really action heavy movie. And in a movie with so much action, we're bound to see something cool. P.S. reaction GIF's grind my gears ![]()
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Yeah, I have a safe feeling with Phase 2. I'd like to think Marvel's been listening, and won't let anyone down with Cap's moves in the next movie. Everyone should be stepping it up in this Phase. Except for the Guardians since this will be their first outing, but even then, they need to come out strong. Sorry, I can't help myself with the gifs. Love 'em. ![]() |
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I'd love to see Cap do something like this. It wasn't really athletic, but it definitely made me go "oh sh--" in the theater:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...NQVc6bc#t=115s
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yay! I agree with everyone! ![]() I'm content with what we've gotten from cap, but I really want them to tap into his potential.
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I agree with the popular opinion here that while they still were excellent, Cap's two prior films didn't quite nail his athleticism and were missing the jaw-dropping WTF?! moments that were much better depicted in that video game trailer.
I think Johnston captured the needed WWII tone in the first half of TFA, but his reluctance to make Cap appear as "super-powered" hindered the action sequences in the latter half. I know that technically he isn't super-powered, but that doesn't mean he can't be extremely impressive in the fights. Numerous action films have nailed it in the past without having the character being super-powered, why not America's one and only super-soldier? (I like the idea of the Bourne films as examples.) Leterrier had the right idea with Blonski in TIH, I hope that the Russo brothers will watch that film and follow suit. As always, I have high expectations for my favorite Marvel character that so far haven't quite been met, but I can't let go of the dream. I just hope that this directing team while unproven in this genre can still hit it out of the park their first time up to bat. I don't want Cap to become a second tier character in the public's eyes...he deserves so much more.
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Fixed. Good fight. Further proof money is not the issue, but one's perspective on the character is. And here's the ending: Another thing I think which will make Cap 2 more awesome is the fact that the bad guy will be awesome. Part of TFA's weaknesses was our introduction to Red Skull was him running off with his tail between his legs... he never really got to be credible after that. With Winter Soldier being so boss, even in concept art, we know that they'll bring Cap up to that level and a bit beyond it to beat him. When you make a great bad guy, you don't have them trip over a cube and end up sending themselves into the cosmos as a 'big finish.' I'll try to find some more videos of awesomeness later.
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One thing is for sure, with Winter Soldier, Batroc, and Crossbones, they've got three great action potential villains for Cap to fight. In TFA, it was only Red Skull, not a physical villain.
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![]() I love this video. IMO it has the perfect portrayal of each character (Cap, Fury, Doom, Wolverine, etc). I also think this is a great portrayal of Cap, from his design (based on the ultimate version), his leadership skills, and him showing he's dangerous. The shield punch, the throw, the kick, and the beheading at the end were all perfect. Also, he has a great jawline haha |
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You are mistaken. Movie Cap most definitely is super powered. Remember, just because something is the case in the comics, doesn't make it so in the movies.
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You guys make good points, Crossbones AND Batroc AND Winter Soldier makes for a really great Cap, because he's going to have to manhandle all of them at some point, though some of their final comeuppance may come from Falcon or Widow.
I would note that Red Skull is every bit as physical as Cap, they just didn't take the time to make a great villain out of him.
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just wanted to say i applaud your discussion here guys. i tried to begin such a discussion in the amazing spider-man 2 thread and failed miserably.
cap was decent in TFA, and seriously underwhelming in The Avengers. I remember coming out of the cinema on a high, thinking it was the best thing i had seen, but said to my friend at the time "I feel bad for cap fans, he didn't get enough cool moments" hopefully this sequel will introduce the fact that he is now combat trained. it was never addressed in the first avenger or the avengers. i'm left with what i see him do on screen, and, quite frankly, he didn't look like he had any martial arts prowess. they need to play up his hand to hand skills, along with his agility and strength. he seemed nerfed in the avengers when it came to how strong he was. so yeah, i'm mostly hoping for some seriously efficient hand to hand combat, both with and without the shield. |
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As for what I want to see out of spidey 2, I'd love for him to do some awesome, creative stuff with his webs in battle. One of the coolest scenes to me at least was when he was in the sewers and had all that web strung out for movement (even though that wasn't a battle scene, it was a cool moment). Spidey could also do for a slight upgrade in the athletics while fighting although if i recall correctly he was pretty nicely done. I'm gunna have to rewatch the movie and comment again lol, only saw it once.
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spider-man needs to not constantly dodge and unsuccessfully subdue his opponents with web. that's literally all he did in tasm1. he was a 2 trick pony., and only 1 of those tricks were impressive. and even then it grew stale by the end fight. he needs to lift his game, just like cap does. i hope the russo brothers can direct good action, and i hope webb improves upon his first attempt. |
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I like the scene in TASM where Petey effortlessly dodged point blank gunfire from bike cop. That was seriously awesome! The fluidity of his movements in that scene... a great foundation to build upon his fighting style and more of his bullet-timer feats.
On the subject of Cap in WS, the sort of villains in this movie almost garauntees more h2h. Imo Cap should fight like a mix of Jason Bourne, Blade, and Ozy in Watchmen. Cap has had great feats of srength, (jumping 9ft fences, pulling the car door of a cab to use as a makeshift shield, throwing a man out of the canal while being mostly submerged, tossing armored men 15ft in the air up.and over a tank, taking point blank Chirari rifle fire to the abdomen, and many more. Now its time to show some really slick super soldier fight coreography. |
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