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Old 04-10-2013, 02:26 PM   #151
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I don't think it will be touched upon anyway. When exactly is there time in this film, with all the plot and characters that seem to have been squeezed into this? As I said before, even Emily VanCamp's role seems to have been possibly reduced, so the main story will be Steve and Natasha dealing with Winter Soldier/ Bucky, and possibly Nick Fury clashing with Redford.

In The Avengers, which was also an emergency situation, there was no time for any love. The only time there was for that was at the beginning when Tony and Pepper were together and they didn't yet know of the urgency of the matter.

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Old 04-10-2013, 02:31 PM   #152
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I don't think it will be touched upon anyway. When exactly is there time in this film, with all the plot and characters that seem to have been squeezed into this? As I said before, even Emily VanCamp's role seems to have been possibly reduced, so the main story will be Steve and Natasha dealing with Winter Soldier/ Bucky, and possibly Nick Fury clashing with Redford.
Exactly, and that's what I was saying to Vile. How exactly is it unavoidable? It's practically impossible.

I don't think Van Camp's role is going to be too reduced though, if we're comparing it to Peggy. She IS the "main love interest" that took so long to cast after all.

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Old 04-10-2013, 03:16 PM   #153
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I don't think Van Camp's role is going to be too reduced though, if we're comparing it to Peggy. She IS the "main love interest" that took so long to cast after all.
Like JB said, She's Cap's main love interest... She's not just going to be just a bit player in the film. Press releases are not written with how fans such as ourselves are going to interpret them(trust me on this one guys, I've got a friend who used to write them for another studio). Her placement in the press release has nothing at all to do with how large her role will be. The reason the press release is worded the way it is, is because she's not a household name yet and she's new to the cast. I'm almost 100% positive that whoever wrote the press release didn't even think twice about anything other than making sure to only call her "Agent 13". The fact that they're only referring to her as "Agent 13" at the moment is telling though. It means Cap discovering who she really is will likely be a major aspect of the film. Come next year, I don't think anyone will be disappointed with how much screen time she has in the film. I could be wrong, but I'd almost be willing to bet a large sum of money that I'm not.

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Old 04-10-2013, 03:18 PM   #154
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Steve isn't progressive, and it's a fallacy to say people who were cool with non whites and women and power are progressive. Let's just leave politics out of this.
It is if you're in the '40s.

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Old 04-10-2013, 03:22 PM   #155
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Like JB said, She's Cap's main love interest... She's not just going to be just a bit player in the film. Press releases are not written with how fans such as ourselves are going to interpret them(trust me on this one guys, I've got a friend who used to write them for another studio). Her placement in the press release has nothing at all to do with how large her role will be. The reason the press release is worded the way it is, is because she's not a household name yet and she's new to the cast. I'm almost 100% positive that whoever wrote the press release didn't even think twice about anything other than making sure to only call her "Agent 13". The fact that they're only referring to her as "Agent 13" at the moment is telling though. It means Cap discovering who she really is will likely be a major aspect of the film. Come next year, I don't think anyone will be disappointed with how much screen time she has in the film. I could be wrong, but I'd almost be willing to bet a large sum of money that I'm not.
Yeah, but she's the penultimate character in the cast. Behind Georges St-felching-Pierre. Who isn't a household name, and neither are Frank Grillo, or Cobbie Smulder, for that matter.

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I can agree with what you're just saying. My main point though isn't that I think Steve needs to be shown or implied as a virgin, I just don't think it needs to be shown or implied that he's not a virgin. His sex life doesn't really need to be touched on in film.
Fair enough. I just would be okay with whatever road they go, so long as it is executed well.

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Yeah, but she's the penultimate character in the cast. Behind Georges St-felching-Pierre. Who isn't a household name, and neither are Frank Grillo, or Cobbie Smulder, for that matter.
Like I keep saying, it doesn't matter one single bit where her name was placed. If it had said, "making a brief appearance", I might see reason to worry. It didn't, so I don't. In fact, I'd almost be willing to bet she ends up with more screen time than either Smulders or Jackson.

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Like I keep saying, it doesn't matter one single bit where her name was placed. If it had said, "making a brief appearance", I might see reason to worry. It didn't, so I don't. In fact, I'd almost be willing to bet she ends up with more screen time than either Smulders or Jackson.
They do say "rounding up the talent" and list her alongside Hayley Atwell, who we know is there for a cameo.

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They do say "rounding up the talent" and list her alongside Hayley Atwell, who we know is there for a cameo.
I still say you're reading too much into it.


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A largely unknown actress is playing a role that isn't mentioned in the synopsis, and is listed almost last. It looks like more of an indication that it's a reduced role than it is a badly worded one.

I invoke Occam's razor.

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A largely unknown actress is playing a role that isn't mentioned in the synopsis, and is listed almost last. It looks like more of an indication that it's a reduced role than it is a badly worded one.

I invoke Occam's razor.
Why is it that every trade reported her as a lead when she was cast? In fact, they called her THE female lead. I don't think she'll get a bigger role than Scarlett Johansson, but I'd say her role will be big enough.

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Old 04-10-2013, 04:12 PM   #162
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Why is it that every trade reported her as a lead when she was cast? In fact, they called her THE female lead. I don't think she'll get a bigger role than Scarlett Johansson, but I'd say her role will be big enough.
Agreed. I'd say her role in the film will be roughly equivalent to the amount of screen time Atwell got in the first film.

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Why is it that every trade reported her as a lead when she was cast? In fact, they called her THE female lead. I don't think she'll get a bigger role than Scarlett Johansson, but I'd say her role will be big enough.
But were the trades assuming she was the lead at the time when she was cast? We don't know if the script has since been rewritten, especially since Redford came onboard. That was over a month ago, and the Marvel announcement might be more accurate.

It looks more like Scarlett Johansson is THE female lead in the movie, and Emily's role is akin to Shailene Woodley's in ASM2.

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But were the trades assuming she was the lead at the time when she was cast? We don't know if the script has since been rewritten, especially since Redford came onboard. That was over a month ago, and the Marvel announcement might be more accurate.

It looks more like Scarlett Johansson is THE female lead in the movie, and Emily's role is akin to Shailene Woodley's in ASM2.
We don't even know what her role is. If we're comparing it to a film that has already been released and seen, let's say... the first Cap movie, I think her role will be more akin to Bucky.

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Old 04-10-2013, 07:31 PM   #165
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I think we're loosing focus again here folks...







or more sharon carter like..






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Why is it that every trade reported her as a lead when she was cast? In fact, they called her THE female lead. I don't think she'll get a bigger role than Scarlett Johansson, but I'd say her role will be big enough.
Who's likely to be more accurate, deadline or Marvel themselves?

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Who's likely to be more accurate, deadline or Marvel themselves?
Did Marvel say she had a reduced role or something? I must have missed that in the press release.

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Did Marvel say she had a reduced role or something? I must have missed that in the press release.
Marvel listed her ALMOST LAST.

If she was the female lead, I'd expect it would be at least somewhere toward the middle.

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The comparison to Bucky seems about right, who was in the first movie for around 10 minutes, I'd guess (that may be generous). And mostly to set up this movie.

I'm thinking the only real major players in this movie will be Cap, Widow, Bucky, Falcon, Fury, Pierce and maybe Crossbones

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The comparison to Bucky seems about right, who was in the first movie for around 10 minutes, I'd guess (that may be generous). And mostly to set up this movie.

I'm thinking the only real major players in this movie will be Cap, Widow, Bucky, Falcon, Fury, Pierce and maybe Crossbones
Yeah, Bucky didn't have a ton of screen time, I don't think, but he did have a lot of important 1-on-1 scenes with Cap. That's what I expect with Sharon.

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I'd like to see more Sharon. I don't want her screen time just as a love interest.

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Marvel listed her ALMOST LAST.

If she was the female lead, I'd expect it would be at least somewhere toward the middle.
Look! Don Cheadle's name is almost last! He must have NO ROLE AT ALL!!!

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Old 04-11-2013, 08:41 AM   #173
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IM3 Official synopsis

"Starring Robert Downey Jr., Gwyneth Paltrow, Don Cheadle, Guy Pearce, Rebecca Hall, Stephanie Szostak, James Badge Dale with Jon Favreau and Ben Kingsley, “Iron Man 3″ is directed by Shane Black from a screenplay by Drew Pearce and Shane Black and is based on Marvel’s iconic Super Hero Iron Man, who first appeared on the pages of “Tales of Suspense” (#39) in 1963 and had his solo comic book debut with “The Invincible Iron Man” (#1) in May of 1968."

Ben Kingsley is LAST!

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Sharon Carter could have a comparatively limited role and still serve an important purpose to the film. The prime comparison I think is with Hawkeye in the Avengers. Yes, people did complain about Hawkeye in that film, but that wasn't so much because of his screen time, rather because he was under Loki's spell during said time. Even so though, he made a good showing of himself at the end and served as a thematic through line which strengthens the film. Assuming that the writing is good, or at least competent, Sharon Carter could be well served with that kind of screen time.

Personally, I'd be all for moving the films away from the need to include a romantic subplot every time though.

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IM3 Official synopsis

"Starring Robert Downey Jr., Gwyneth Paltrow, Don Cheadle, Guy Pearce, Rebecca Hall, Stephanie Szostak, James Badge Dale with Jon Favreau and Ben Kingsley, “Iron Man 3″ is directed by Shane Black from a screenplay by Drew Pearce and Shane Black and is based on Marvel’s iconic Super Hero Iron Man, who first appeared on the pages of “Tales of Suspense” (#39) in 1963 and had his solo comic book debut with “The Invincible Iron Man” (#1) in May of 1968."

Ben Kingsley is LAST!
Now that's a very bad example, because a) he's listed in the main cast, and b) everyone knows that when a big actor/ main character is listed last, it signifies the most prestigious role other than the primary protagonist. It's the "and" status that Kingsley has, just like Samuel L Jackson had and Robert Redford may have in Cap 2.

It's if you come after the "and" credit of the main cast, that's where all the minor roles/ cameo appearances usually go. That's where Emily Van Camp is listed.

You don't think that Maximillano Hernandez has the prestigious "and" credit by being listed last in that article do you?

Even anyone who doesn't think Emily has a reduced role would see your example of Kingsley as a bad one.

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