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Captain America 9 5.56%
Iron Man 17 10.49%
Thor 7 4.32%
Hulk 5 3.09%
Black Widow 19 11.73%
Hawkeye 24 14.81%
Nick Fury 20 12.35%
Maria Hill 26 16.05%
A new Avenger (please specify) 3 1.85%
A new SHIELD agent (please specify) 1 0.62%
Other (please specify) 6 3.70%
No one! 25 15.43%
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Old 04-19-2013, 12:16 PM   #326
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They really can't afford to kill off anyone massive since they're all pretty integral to the franchise. Hate to say it but the only characters they could kill off in the future would be female. Yes, it's a refrigerator thing, but that's the comic world.
Speaking of women in fridges, I think we could see Pepper bite it in Avengers 2. She's almost done, RDJ will only have one movie left after.

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What if they kill off big names like ironman in avengers 2 and maybe cap or thor in avengers 3 and they then happen to make an avengers 4 with Kang as the villain. Kind of use him to bring back the major players a la xmen dofp? Seems like that would be a smart option...to save Kang for when a movie in the MCU flops/makes a mistake/goes in wrong direction...in comes Kang to "reset" the timeline.
Kang explains recasting, interestingly enough can explain recasting, bringing in a younger version of Tony, or an alternate someone else. Cap can be replaced by BuckyCap pretty easily, and Thor can be brought back with Asgardian Tech. Kang can bring *anyone* back, as you said, so there's that too.

But to be fair, that's not really "killing off" characters per se. They get killed, but they come back the very next phase, really.

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Old 04-19-2013, 12:22 PM   #327
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If the choice is between recasting Iron Man and killing him off, I'd choose killing him off.

Hopefully that won't happen until Avengers 3.

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Old 04-19-2013, 12:26 PM   #328
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Hawkeye is the only Avenger who should get the red shirt treatment this soon.

Black Widow is out because she one of the few females on the squad.

The Big Four (Hulk, CA, IM, Thor) are all untouchable IMO.

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Old 04-19-2013, 12:37 PM   #329
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I think you guys are overestimating the big 4. Iron Man is the only one who is really untouchable.

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Old 04-19-2013, 12:41 PM   #330
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I think you guys are overestimating the big 4. Iron Man is the only one who is really untouchable.
Hulk is pretty much elevated the first movie single handedly and I'm not just referring to the Loki "fight".

Thor and Captain America are less popular than Iron Man but their ongoing solo movies protect them from getting wacked anytime soon.

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Old 04-19-2013, 12:46 PM   #331
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If the choice is between recasting Iron Man and killing him off, I'd choose killing him off.

Hopefully that won't happen until Avengers 3.
Recasting Stark wouldn't be too hard. Just play out the time Rhodey was Iron Man in the movies for a film or two, and when Stark comes back, well, he looks kind of different, you know, sort of how Rhodey did between Iron Man 1 and 2.

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Old 04-19-2013, 12:48 PM   #332
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Anybody playing Iron Man after Downey leaves would just be someone impersonating RDJ doing Tony Stark. His take has pretty much become the character.

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Good thing that these characters can and have changed greatly over the course of five (or more in some cases) decades.

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Old 04-19-2013, 01:29 PM   #334
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Anybody playing Iron Man after Downey leaves would just be someone impersonating RDJ doing Tony Stark. His take has pretty much become the character.
No matter who's next it will be 2 hours of the audience booing the screen.

They have to kill the character off until the a reboot. It's the only way to get rid of RDJ without a backlash.

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Hulk is pretty much elevated the first movie single handedly and I'm not just referring to the Loki "fight".

Thor and Captain America are less popular than Iron Man but their ongoing solo movies protect them from getting wacked anytime soon.
Hulk, yeah, he's pretty close to untouchable. Thor can be resurrected in his film, and Captain America can be replaced in his. They're not untouchable, imho.

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A captain america funeral in avengers 3 would be amazing to see. Set up Bucky becoming the new captain america.

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Old 04-21-2013, 08:17 AM   #337
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Black Widow is out because she one of the few females on the squad.
You mean the only female on the squad

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You mean the only female on the squad
that doesn't mean we wont be getting any though. There will be more

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Old 04-21-2013, 05:25 PM   #339
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I dunno....It's like Disney and Warner Bros are battling to see who can get the most underdeveloped roles for women

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Yeah, don't they watch all these interviews with Clark Gregg where he repeatedly asks for a Black Widow movie?

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Indeed... and they're giving her political thriller spy storyline to Cap for Cap 2. They're going to keep sidekicking her. Who knows, she might be in Thor 3 at this rate...

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Not every hero needs a solo movie.

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Not every hero needs a solo movie.
Not every hero needs a solo movie, yeah, but even I have to dock Marvel Studios a few points for pussying out on superheroines, same as every other studio out there. So far, the only real Marvel/DC superheroine movie out there has been Elektra, which failed miserably due to ****** writers and ill-conceived casting.

But yeah, even Marvel Studios needs to step up their game by getting chicks in the mix. Sausage-fests are tiresome as hell in superhero movies.

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Yeah, don't they watch all these interviews with Clark Gregg where he repeatedly asks for a Black Widow movie?
Listening closely to Gregg's latest interview, he said that there has been some talk at Marvel about doing a Black Widow movie. At one point a few years back they had hired a writer to do a treatment, but nothing came of that. Hopefully they've reconsidered after The Avengers and will go forward with it.

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Listening closely to Gregg's latest interview, he said that there has been some talk at Marvel about doing a Black Widow movie. At one point a few years back they had hired a writer to do a treatment, but nothing came of that. Hopefully they've reconsidered after The Avengers and will go forward with it.
Black Widow has been/will be developed well enough in the MCU. It's not like I wouldn't be excited for a Black Widow film, but... BRING ON MAJOR DANVERS, DAMMIT.

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Anybody playing Iron Man after Downey leaves would just be someone impersonating RDJ doing Tony Stark. His take has pretty much become the character.
I disagree with this. Whoever takes up Tony Stark after RDJ will do their own portrayal, and it it's good it's good. People forget that characters like Bond, Batman, and Superman have been recast numerous times and each time the actor brought their own interpretation to the role. Stark is not untouchable, we just haven't seen anyone but RDJ do it.

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Not every hero needs a solo movie, yeah, but even I have to dock Marvel Studios a few points for pussying out on superheroines, same as every other studio out there. So far, the only real Marvel/DC superheroine movie out there has been Elektra, which failed miserably due to ****** writers and ill-conceived casting.

But yeah, even Marvel Studios needs to step up their game by getting chicks in the mix. Sausage-fests are tiresome as hell in superhero movies.
Adding females to the greater MCU and giving them their own solo are two different things. I'm all for adding Mrs Marvel and Spider-woman to the MCU but I don't believe they could hold their own film and be profitable to Marvel/Disney. And at the end of the day that's what matters most.

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Adding females to the greater MCU and giving them their own solo are two different things. I'm all for adding Mrs Marvel and Spider-woman to the MCU but I don't believe they could hold their own film and be profitable to Marvel/Disney. And at the end of the day that's what matters most.
Not singling you out -- because your opinion is a *very* common one -- but this cowardice is the reason why Hollywood hasn't produced a blockbuster female-centered action film yet. Hunger Games and the first Tomb Raider are the only ones that qualify as bona fide blockbusters. I'd hope that the eye-popping numbers that THG (and, inevitably, the sequels) generated have finally given Hollywood execs the balls to start throwing some money at the heroines.

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...finally given Hollywood execs the balls to start throwing some money at the heroines.
Agreed, I really think Ms.Marvel could work for at least one movie. They need to just use the EMH episode with the sentry as a baseline and go with it. And Iets be honest it is an absolute outrage that WW hasn't made it to the big screen yet.

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Not singling you out -- because your opinion is a *very* common one -- but this cowardice is the reason why Hollywood hasn't produced a blockbuster female-centered action film yet. Hunger Games and the first Tomb Raider are the only ones that qualify as bona fide blockbusters. I'd hope that the eye-popping numbers that THG (and, inevitably, the sequels) generated have finally given Hollywood execs the balls to start throwing some money at the heroines.
See the hunger games was a series of books that already had an established audience. Which I think helped it out immensely. I had no desire to see the movie but my girl had read the books so we went. It was a decent movie but nothing I couldn't have waited too see at home.

And of I'm honest even though I'm a comic fan I don't know how excited I would be for a solo female superhero movie. I just think that the demographic for female lead action movies is small. A lot of risk.

Also I don't take offense too people he who don't agree with my way of thinking. Or even debating with me. That's the whole point of being on this message board.

I think we can both agree though that we want the MCU to continue to thrive and expand with all its unique and different characters that they can bring to cinemas.

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