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Old 04-25-2013, 12:58 PM   #651
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Hm, I'd been hearing talk for a while now that Marvel/Fox had been in talks and were working towards some sort of agreement... I wouldn't be surprised if Wanda and Pietro COULD in fact be mutants.
Has any one considered the very off chance they worked out a deal to share characters.

They definitely didn't, but its fun to think about

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Aren't Death and Eternity technically brother and sister?
Besides QS/SW, this makes the most sense. Sort of I guess. lol. In a way that like... If Joss wanted to throw us off but he's not outright lying, this is what he probably meant. Since Thanos has dealings with these two.

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Really good conversation about the possibility of the bro-sis not being QS/SW. Best way to come to the proper conclusion is to explore all the others.

From reading through this forum for several months, if QS/SW are to be introduced, I think they will be Inhumans, especially if they will be given their own film in Phase 3.

On the character sharing between Fox and Marvel, I don't believe they would have come to a new agreement but rather explored what their current deal meant. These characters exist in a weird middle ground and lawyers would have been called to figure out what it all means. Fox has no incentive to give up characters they have exclusive rights to, unless given a reason. I suppose they could have been offered money, but I don't think Marvel would have done that.

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This "news" is just continuing to boggle my mind. One of SW's main plot points as an Avenger is her relationship with Vision right? Who we can't have until Ultron, who we can't have until Pym, who we can't really have without Wasp. So what's the idea? GIVE ME MORE INFO JOSS! D:

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Vision only came after Scarlet Witch though. He didn't arrive until sometime later, whereas Wanda was there already from about issue 16 just with her brother.

We don't need Vision yet to have Scarlet Witch. And besides, she wasn't always with him. Later on she had some dalliances with Wonder Man.

Hopefully they won't go the Ultimates route though and have her in an incestuous relationship with Pietro.

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lol. hopefully.

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Its probably Wanda/Pietro..the only other siblings i can think of are T'Challa/Shuri but that makes little sense
Yeah, they'll probably do a similar thing to what Fox is doing with Viper. They'll include the characters, but change them to fit into the MCU. They probably won't be classified as mutants.

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I'm pretty sure at draft #1 of The Avengers Joss was dead set on Wasp being in the movie. Things can change. They always do.
He said he included Wasp in a draft at a point in time when Marvel thought ScarJo wasn't going to come back

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There is a big difference between brother/sister act and actual brother and sister. One could say that Hawkeye and Black Widow from the Avengers was a brother/sister act in some ways. I think it'll just be two characters who are like bro and sis. Personally I wouldn't like to see Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver yet. I mean it'd be great but their backstory really adds to the characters motives. We'll have to wait and see!
I considered this possibility as well.

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Vision only came after Scarlet Witch though. He didn't arrive until sometime later, whereas Wanda was there already from about issue 16 just with her brother.

We don't need Vision yet to have Scarlet Witch. And besides, she wasn't always with him. Later on she had some dalliances with Wonder Man.

Hopefully they won't go the Ultimates route though and have her in an incestuous relationship with Pietro.
As long as they keep Jeph Loeb away from the production, there is no need to worry about that...or a Widow/Stark tape hitting the internet.

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Clearly a misdirection -- he's probably referring to Thanos and a female version of Starfox.

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He mentions the "brother/sister act" bit again in this video, this time after being asked flat out about new characters.

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He says they're already talking to actors about those roles, so I guess we should be finding out in the near future

I know I shouldn't but I'm getting my hopes up just a little bit about Scarlet Witch

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I wonder how different things would be if Wanda was introduced in Iron Man 2. I think it was Scarlett Johansson that said Scarlet Witch was one of the characters they were thinking of casting her as.

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He says they're already talking to actors about those roles, so I guess we should be finding out in the near future

I know I shouldn't but I'm getting my hopes up just a little bit about Scarlet Witch
You know how these thing's end up. You're definitely setting yourself up for the big fall.

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I know but dat Scarlet Witch

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In the Hype's interview with Kevin Feige, he said that both Fox and Marvel were able to use the characters, but Marvel couldn't make reference to mutants or Magneto.

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Feige: We both have them. There's a specific arrangement with those two characters that would allow us to use them with "Avengers," but not discuss or reference their mutant or Magneto-related lineage. They can use them as mutants and as Magneto's relatives, but cannot have anything to do with "The Avengers."

SHH: So whichever universe uses them first basically gets to keep them.

Feige: Yeah. Contracts are always complicated. (chuckles)

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The last bit is significant about whichever one uses them first gets to keep them. Now that may not be necessarily legally, but in the public eye, that would be the version of them first established. So maybe it's a rush to get Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver onto the big screen first so that the Marvel version will be the true version and anything Fox puts out will be seen as a pale imitation.

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The last bit is significant about whichever one uses them first gets to keep them. Now that may not be necessarily legally, but in the public eye, that would be the version of them first established. So maybe it's a rush to get Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver onto the big screen first so that the Marvel version will be the true version and anything Fox puts out will be seen as a pale imitation.
Sharing characters with a billion-plus box office megahit is not a bad position to be in, pale imitation or not. I could see FOX incorporating their version of the Maximoff siblings into the DOFP follow-up as a way of drafting off of the success of the Avengers sequel.

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Except DoFP comes out a year before Avengers 2.

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Except DoFP comes out a year before Avengers 2.
I'm assuming that DOFP will be successful and have a sequel with Fassbender becoming a daddy.

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so from that interview we have "brother-sister act" from when he read the comics growing up, and "villains" plural.

oh and idk why I havent been on the Avengers 2 boards yet, I check every other Phase 2 board lol duh

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it's had the least news thus far. If we are even dubbing this "news"

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We also have to remember that "brothero-sister act" doesn't mean siblings exactly, it could just be a 1-2 combo of male and female. I'm not jumping to any conclusions though since the movie is so far away and in its first draft lol.

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Just the way he describes it, especially in that THR video, I'm not really sure who else he could be referring to. I can't think of another "brother-sister act" relating to the Avengers that he would have loved as a kid.

Plus SW and QS seem right up his alley, a conflicted formerly villainous woman who has trouble controlling her powers and a haughty prick who you're certain is a straight up villain until he turns around and does something not villainous.

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