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Old 04-25-2013, 01:48 AM   #176
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I think an important difference between MoS and IM3 will be that MoS is a legit superhero movie while IM3 is more of a Shane Black film.
What on earth do you mean by this?

In any case, only one of these films has even seen any kind of release, so how could you even come to...whatever sort of conclusion that is?

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I'm more excited about Man of Steel. This could be the Superman movie we've all been waiting for.

Iron Man 3 looks really good , but I did get my fix last year. It's just been a long time since Superman had the spotlight.

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What on earth do you mean by this?

In any case, only one of these films has even seen any kind of release, so how could you even come to...whatever sort of conclusion that is?
Read deeper into the thread and you'll find out. Although I don't understand what's hard about discerning the difference between a Shane Black film and a superhero film.

Also, I'm inherently assuming MoS will be your normal superhero film. That seems pretty much like a given though.

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It'll be a Zack Snyder superhero film, moreso if anything goes wrong with it. Guaranteed. That's what's so laughable about this Shane Black nonsense.

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Read deeper into the thread and you'll find out. Although I don't understand what's hard about discerning the difference between a Shane Black film and a superhero film.

Also, I'm inherently assuming MoS will be your normal superhero film. That seems pretty much like a given though.

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It'll be a Zack Snyder superhero film, moreso if anything goes wrong with it. Guaranteed. That's what's so laughable about this Shane Black nonsense.
You're making what I'm saying more complicated than it has to be. IM3 is very different from any past superhero film. Maybe I should have said it's more of a Shane Black story, not just movie, with less superhero tropes and more spy and buddy cop elements and the structure of the movie overall just strives to subvert the superhero formula. 70% of the movie is what I mentioned above, with Tony out of the suit, while only about 30% is dealing with real heroics. Obviously the action is more fantastical than something like Lethal Weapon or KKBB though. And no, it can't be compared to TDKR just because he is not in the suit. Tony is doing far more than just chilling in a prison for 5 months while he is not in his suit, that's a fundamental difference which makes the two movies incomparable past the immediate similarity of the two being out of their suits. That's not aimed at you, it's just something I've seen people bring up in general (not necessarily just on this board either).

I have a hard time imagining MoS being anything close to what IM3 is and will adhere much more to the general superhero origin movie formula and genre, albeit with a Zach Snyder flair for action. I don't think it will be a hodgepdge of genres like IM3, nor do I think it will try and subvert any of its genre's tropes, but rather just build off of them in a way that fits their purposes for Superman. They are not going to be comparable in terms of genre or being a superhero film, because they're nearly different genres. IM3 is a new breed of "superhero" film if we have to label it as such. I bring this up because we're generally used to comparing these movies based off of their tone, how good the action was, and whether we enjoyed the comedy more or drama more (if the stories are on equal footing). This is different. Like I said, it would be almost like comparing Lethal Weapon or the Godfather to Superman. The only thing lending to the comparisons are the fact IM3 is about a superhero. But to me, the story isn't really told as a superhero movie.

And like I said before, this is just in my mind and why I will have a hard time really sitting down and comparing the two if all things turn out equal. I'm not saying it will absolutely be like that for you or anyone else. I just wanted to share it because I thought it was an interesting juxtaposition between the two films we haven't really seen with superhero movie comparisons before.

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Will only check out MOS in theatres.

For everyone else, Marvel fans especially, have fun with your Mino.

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I believe we are dealing with a early teen fangirl. In any case, they have shown that "discussion" is something they don't understand.
Even if he claims to be older, I would suspect its his inner teen fangirl that is coming out on these forums to talk aimlessly, lol.

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I think an important difference between MoS and IM3 will be that MoS is a legit superhero movie while IM3 is more of a Shane Black film.
The same used to be said always about TDK trilogy being just Nolan films and not superhero films.

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I'm just saying it's more of a Shane Black film than a traditional superhero film. Obviously it's Iron Man and Marvel, so it's inherently a superhero film. But it subverts a lot of expectations and tropes and really doesn't sound like any superhero film I've ever watched.
I agree, at least Man of Steel will have a real villain

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Old 04-25-2013, 07:52 PM   #187
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Michael Shannon actually plays an actor from Krypton that was paid to portray a character named General Zod...the real Zod is actually just Faora.


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Michael Shannon actually plays an actor from Krypton that was paid to portray a character named General Zod...the real Zod is actually just Faora.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Plot Twist to that plot twist.

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You're making what I'm saying more complicated than it has to be. IM3 is very different from any past superhero film. Maybe I should have said it's more of a Shane Black story, not just movie, with less superhero tropes and more spy and buddy cop elements and the structure of the movie overall just strives to subvert the superhero formula. 70% of the movie is what I mentioned above, with Tony out of the suit, while only about 30% is dealing with real heroics. Obviously the action is more fantastical than something like Lethal Weapon or KKBB though. And no, it can't be compared to TDKR just because he is not in the suit. Tony is doing far more than just chilling in a prison for 5 months while he is not in his suit, that's a fundamental difference which makes the two movies incomparable past the immediate similarity of the two being out of their suits. That's not aimed at you, it's just something I've seen people bring up in general (not necessarily just on this board either).

I have a hard time imagining MoS being anything close to what IM3 is and will adhere much more to the general superhero origin movie formula and genre, albeit with a Zach Snyder flair for action. I don't think it will be a hodgepdge of genres like IM3, nor do I think it will try and subvert any of its genre's tropes, but rather just build off of them in a way that fits their purposes for Superman. They are not going to be comparable in terms of genre or being a superhero film, because they're nearly different genres. IM3 is a new breed of "superhero" film if we have to label it as such. I bring this up because we're generally used to comparing these movies based off of their tone, how good the action was, and whether we enjoyed the comedy more or drama more (if the stories are on equal footing). This is different. Like I said, it would be almost like comparing Lethal Weapon or the Godfather to Superman. The only thing lending to the comparisons are the fact IM3 is about a superhero. But to me, the story isn't really told as a superhero movie.

And like I said before, this is just in my mind and why I will have a hard time really sitting down and comparing the two if all things turn out equal. I'm not saying it will absolutely be like that for you or anyone else. I just wanted to share it because I thought it was an interesting juxtaposition between the two films we haven't really seen with superhero movie comparisons before.


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We’re approaching Superman as if it weren’t a comic book movie, as if it were real,” he said. “I adore the Donner films. Absolutely adore them. It just struck me that there was an idealist quality to them that may or may not work with today’s audience. It just struck me that if Superman really existed in the world, first of all this story would be a story about first contact.”

Goyer went on to say, “He’s an alien. You can easily imagine a scenario in which we’d be doing a film like E.T., as opposed to him running around in tights. If the world found out he existed, it would be the biggest thing that ever happened in human history. It falls into that idea of trying to humanize the inhuman. He’s made out of steel, he’s not made out of flesh, metaphorically speaking. We are portraying him as a man, yet he’s not a man.”

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I had a blast reading this thread.

Anyway I hated IM2 so I can't bring myself to truly look forward to IM3. It looks good though and I am seeing it.

I haven't really enjoyed any Superman film. I enjoyed parts of the first two films but over all I don't really like any of the films. I thought Superman Returns was painfully dull and mediocre to bad on every level but we are finally getting the reboot we should have gotten in 2006 and I couldn't be happier. Just about everything looks and sounds amazing and it has become the movie I'm most looking forward to this Summer.

Mos by far wins my most anticipated but I think that Iron Man 3 is going to beat it out at the boxoffice by a wide margin. I just hope it is way better than the last film.

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IM3 does have a real villain.
Guy Pearce and his abnormally white teeth was not the advertised villain.

I along with many other true Iron Man fans actually wanted the REAL Mandarin to appear. After watching the trailers I was genuinely excited to hear that Tony Stark's "Joker to his Batman" was finally going to appear in the movies. The REAL Mandarin was always Iron Man's archenemy and they ruined him with a fake actor who trolled everyone. I thought we were going to get a villain somewhat akin to Ra's Al Ghul from Batman Begins.

I mean the first Iron Man was practically hinting his appearance, and I thought and really liked the idea of going back to that. They could've even incorporated something about using certain gems(to progress the Infinity Gauntlet/Thanos story line) with the 10 Rings on the Mandarin's fingers

I'm sorry but unlike last year where I was very much backing and supporting Marvel's movies over what DC/WB was dishing, this year will probably be the reverse for me.
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Guy Pearce and his abnormally white teeth was not the advertised villain.

I along with many other true Iron Man fans actually wanted the REAL Mandarin to appear. After watching the trailers I was genuinely excited to hear that Tony Stark's "Joker to his Batman" was finally going to appear in the movies. The REAL Mandarin was always Iron Man's archenemy and they ruined him with a fake actor who trolled everyone. I thought we were going to get a villain somewhat akin to Ra's Al Ghul from Batman Begins.

I mean the first Iron Man was practically hinting his appearance, and I thought and really liked the idea of going back to that. They could've even incorporated something about using certain gems(to progress the Infinity Gauntlet/Thanos story line) with the 10 Rings on the Mandarin's fingers


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I understand, and I really wanted to see the Mandarin complete with his ten rings as well. But IM3 does have a villain, and Killian's pretty badass imo.


With that said, I can't wait to see Zod. He's the villain I'm most excited for this year.

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I understand, and I really wanted to see the Mandarin complete with his ten rings as well. But IM3 does have a villain, and Killian's pretty badass imo.


With that said, I can't wait to see Zod. He's the villain I'm most excited for this year.
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Killian should've stayed as Killian he was ok before he yelled "I'm the real Mandarin!"


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Guy Pearce and his abnormally white teeth was not the advertised villain.

I along with many other true Iron Man fans actually wanted the REAL Mandarin to appear. After watching the trailers I was genuinely excited to hear that Tony Stark's "Joker to his Batman" was finally going to appear in the movies. The REAL Mandarin was always Iron Man's archenemy and they ruined him with a fake actor who trolled everyone. I thought we were going to get a villain somewhat akin to Ra's Al Ghul from Batman Begins.

I mean the first Iron Man was practically hinting his appearance, and I thought and really liked the idea of going back to that. They could've even incorporated something about using certain gems(to progress the Infinity Gauntlet/Thanos story line) with the 10 Rings on the Mandarin's fingers

I'm sorry but unlike last year where I was very much backing and supporting Marvel's movies over what DC/WB was dishing, this year will probably be the reverse for me.
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Usually when films make adaptations of various media and give the name of an established character to a random wino who is nothing like him, it's usually because studios don't care about the material enough to bother researching, and the 'random wino' comments are made by the cynical fans (i.e. us).

Here, taking a random wino off the street and slapping the name of an established CBM character on him... was done within the context of the film.

Quite possibly the most disrespectful treatment of an established character in the history of CBM adaptations, whether you like him or not.


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If you guys don't start using spoiler tags I will start putting you on very long probations.

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Easily man of steel. I've found all of the marvel/avenger movies to be very bland. The trailers for mos look epic.

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Even if MOS makes less at the BO, critically it should do better not just IM3, but both Batman Begins and the TDKR, time will tell.

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