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Old 04-26-2013, 09:55 AM   #51
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I don't think Hill will have much screen time either, or Zola or Redford for that matter. Not that their roles are not important, I just think they'll not see much screen time.
You don't cast Robert Redford in a movie like this and relegate him to a scene here and there. He'll get his fair share. Hill, maybe, maybe not. She and Fury will probably end up with the same amount.

There are a lot of moving parts for the Russos to juggle. I hope they're up for it.

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We just don't know, and won't for awhile. Perhaps when we get a more clear picture of the roles and outline of the story, we might be able to piece more things together. If Hill works for Redford, who is now in charge of Shield, I am pretty sure they will both get a good bit of screen time.

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Evans and Scarjo will get the lion's share of screentime.

SLJ has said the movie explores his backstory and that he has a larger role than in the Avengers. He described the movie as a "SHIELD operation" so it's a safe bet than Hill gets some screentime, maybe Sitwell, too.

St-Pierre has a small role that is already over.

Hayley Atwell supposedly has three separate fight scenes, make of that what you will.

Mackie is supposedly in a good deal of the movie. I don't think he'll get a fair share, but not as much as Evans and Scarjo.

I think Sebastian Stan will get an amount ranging from Mackie to Scarjo.

Redford seems to be a big role, possibly the head villain in disguise. Could be a small but memorable role. I think he'll show up in Peggy's flashbacks, myself.

Everyone else, I don't know. I think Zola will be a cameo, possibly also in a flashback.

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It is kind of funny. I wasn't expecting a lot of Widow, but I'll be excited if she does get a lot of screentime.

The inclusion of Atwell is incredible to me, in a very good way. Once again I wasn't expecting much, so I will love what I can get. I wonder if we are going to see her a few years post-WW2. Perhaps tracking and battling the Winter Solider? Perhaps Cold War style? Maybe see will meet a younger version of Redford's character.

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St-Pierre has a small role that is already over.
Most likely, but you can't say that with certainty. Tommy Lee Jones only filmed for just over a week with CA:TFA and he has a large part in that movie.

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But we don't know if they are for the movie, or for that short/one-shot we keep hearing about.

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In the first movie we had Cap, Peggy, Bucky, Chester Phillips, Erskine, Red Skull, Zola, Dugan, Gabe Jones, Jim Morita, Montgomery Falsworth, Jacques Dernier, and Howard Stark. So honestly its not much more than what we had there especially when a lot of the characters in the winter soldier will be regulated to flashbacks or minor roles (i.e. Peggy, Zola, and Sitwell)

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In the first movie we had Cap, Peggy, Bucky, Chester Phillips, Erskine, Red Skull, Zola, Dugan, Gabe Jones, Jim Morita, Montgomery Falsworth, Jacques Dernier, and Howard Stark. So honestly its not much more than what we had there especially when a lot of the characters in the winter soldier will be regulated to flashbacks or minor roles (i.e. Peggy, Zola, and Sitwell)
And many of those listed were never even mentioned by name in the film, and the GA has no idea who they are.

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Just sounds like a lot of characters for a Captain America movie.

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And many of those listed were never even mentioned by name in the film, and the GA has no idea who they are.

Exactly, and that's something I hope TWS improves on. Calling people by their names and/or codenames.

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Just sounds like a lot of characters for a Captain America movie.
But kind of necessary due to all the ones from the first move, save a for a few, are dead. Hard to have a lot of cast continuity when there's an 80 year jump from the first movie to the sequel.

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Well umm Bucky is basically not going to have aged. Arnim Zola could be some type of mechanical monstrosity or cyborg now and could still "look" the same for a while. Obviously we are going to see a young Peggy in flashbacks. So I mean, that's still a lot of characters.

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Well umm Bucky is basically not going to have aged. Arnim Zola could be some type of mechanical monstrosity or cyborg now and could still "look" the same for a while. Obviously we are going to see a young Peggy in flashbacks. So I mean, that's still a lot of characters.

That's four characters, and Peggy doesn't really count since she's in a possibly short flashback, unless they have old Peggy. C'mon, Vile.

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Not sure if this picture made it here, saw it on another board.



Evans in the new costume and Black Widow with straight hair.

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Not sure if this picture made it here, saw it on another board.



Evans in the new costume and Black Widow with straight hair.
Yep, made it here, but mainly was discussed in the thread about CA's uniform.

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Evans in the new costume and Black Widow with straight hair.
I wonder if she'll have this look when she's in the costume as well? I wouldn't mind it, to be honest.

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That's four characters, and Peggy doesn't really count since she's in a possibly short flashback, unless they have old Peggy. C'mon, Vile.
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Peggy Carter (flashbacks, whatever)
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C'mon what? That's a lot of characters to establish. It's more than four characters.

I'm not saying it will be bad, but this will need to be a bigger movie than The First Avenger, that is my main point. It will need to be similar in scope to The Avengers and maybe almost as long. Maybe not 2 hours and 23 minutes, but say 2 hours 15 minutes.

We don't want to see Falcon or Agent 13 as essentially minor characters like the Howling Commandoes or the Warriors Three were.

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Peggy Carter (flashbacks, whatever)
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C'mon what? That's a lot of characters to establish. It's more than four characters.

I'm not saying it will be bad, but this will need to be a bigger movie than The First Avenger, that is my main point. It will need to be similar in scope to The Avengers and maybe almost as long. Maybe not 2 hours and 23 minutes, but say 2 hours 15 minutes.

We don't want to see Falcon or Agent 13 as essentially minor characters like the Howling Commandoes or the Warriors Three were.
When you say bigger, do you mean bigger than the Chitauri invasion in TA? I don't think the movie necessarily has to be bigger, but as long as the story and its characters are cohesive, everything should be fine.

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It has to have a bigger scope so there is enough room to breathe and characters aren't short-changed and just crammed in.

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Ah, I think I understand where you're coming from.

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Well obviously it's planning on being bigger. It's a conspiracy political thriller.

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Not at all. It just genuinely looks like she'll have screentime comparable to Leslie Bibb as opposed to Gwyneth Paltrow.
NO, it really doesn't. This press release is the only thing you guys are going by. THAT'S IT! There has been way more evidence that she'll have a significant role but you guys just choose to ignore it.

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NO, it really doesn't. This press release is the only thing you guys are going by. THAT'S IT! There has been way more evidence that she'll have a significant role but you guys just choose to ignore it.
The press release is a lot. Certainly enough.

There's also the fact that she was cast two months before shooting began. Well after Crossbones and Falcon were cast.

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