The SuperHeroHype Forums  

Go Back   The SuperHeroHype Forums > Captain America > Captain America: The Winter Soldier

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-02-2013, 01:39 AM   #51
BullMcGiveny
Side-Kick
 
BullMcGiveny's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,283
Default Re: The Winter Soldier Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hawkingbird View Post
I hope it's not the knock to the head deal again.
Yeah.

If it happens, it'll be stupid. I doubt the Winter Soldier, spending decades doing all sorts of superspy fighting, never got a blow to the head.

At a guess, I'd say that seeing Steve again might make him start remembering things. Or maybe not. Maybe they just capture him and SHIELD has psychiatrists de-brainwash him.

BullMcGiveny is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-02-2013, 01:55 AM   #52
CastlesInTheAir
Banned User
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 208
Default Re: The Winter Soldier Thread

Lol that would make for good comedy though.

*BUMP*
Winter Soldier: Wait a minute... I remember who I am! I'm Bu-
*WHACK*
Winter Soldier: Ughhh... where am I? WHO am I?

CastlesInTheAir is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-02-2013, 09:52 AM   #53
metaphysician
Side-Kick
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 4,426
Default Re: The Winter Soldier Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by xeno000 View Post
In the comics, the original Cosmic Cube (aka Tesseract) was created by AIM's scientists and used by the Red Skull in his various schemes. Hawkeye recruited a group of rogue scientists to work on the Tesseract in The Avengers, and they could well have been members of AIM. (HYDRA is a less likely possibility because the group Clint and Selvig were working with were from a variety of ethnicities, which would be anathema to the Nazi affiliated villains.)


With that background in mind, it would make perfect sense if AIM succeeded in creating (or recreating) the Tesseract in CA: TWS.
I don't think that, sixty years later, HYDRA would still care about Nazi racial ideology. Sure, no explicit evidence, but its not like Red Skull overly cared about such, himself.

metaphysician is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-02-2013, 10:32 AM   #54
cherokeesam
SHIELD Director Coulson
 
cherokeesam's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Cherokee, NC
Posts: 11,459
Default Re: The Winter Soldier Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by metaphysician View Post
I don't think that, sixty years later, HYDRA would still care about Nazi racial ideology. Sure, no explicit evidence, but its not like Red Skull overly cared about such, himself.

Are you talking comic books, or movies? Because comic book HYDRA and Red Skull practically worship Nazi racial ideology.

If HYDRA is reborn in the MCU, or has continued to exist in "sleeper cells" since WWII, I'd think that their original ideology would be the motivating factor for bringing them into the 21st century.

__________________
THE COTTON AVENGERS

...They move like slick cotton on oil.

---Echostation, 3/18/2014
cherokeesam is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-02-2013, 01:09 PM   #55
Webfoot Hero
Side-Kick
 
Webfoot Hero's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Oregon
Posts: 5,567
Default Re: The Winter Soldier Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by cherokeesam View Post
Are you talking comic books, or movies? Because comic book HYDRA and Red Skull practically worship Nazi racial ideology.

If HYDRA is reborn in the MCU, or has continued to exist in "sleeper cells" since WWII, I'd think that their original ideology would be the motivating factor for bringing them into the 21st century.
In the MCU, Red Skull did say something along the lines of him no longer fitting Hitler's ideas of human or Aryan perfection. That would lead me to believe that MCU HYDRA maybe wouldn't be so hard-up on keeping racial purity.

Webfoot Hero is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-03-2013, 11:41 PM   #56
JB-the-Hunter
Hunter of weaklings
 
JB-the-Hunter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 3,718
Default Re: The Winter Soldier Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by BullMcGiveny View Post
Yes.

That gives me a modicum of hope, actually. No other writers have been asked to return for a sequel, so the fact that they are, and are being entrusted with another franchise, is a little encouraging.
Well they handled the Narnia movies pretty well, the first one anyway, but the second wasn't too bad either (Haven't seen Voyage yet). Based on those films I can understand why Marvel got them. The films they've written have all been very well structured.

__________________
Natasha Romanoff - "Are you boys really that naive? S.H.I.E.L.D. monitors potential threats."

Bruce Banner - "Captain America is on threat watch?"

Natasha Romanoff - "We all are."
JB-the-Hunter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-02-2013, 08:34 PM   #57
Hunter Rider
Ronin
SHH! Administrator
 
Hunter Rider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Camp Manuel
Posts: 136,785
Default Re: The Winter Soldier Thread

I am loving the look they have gone for.


__________________
thinkmcflythink.com
Movie fans, hop in your Delorean and check it out!

"Now this life is etched in black but I wont be looking back, the rain washed out the tracks, I'll never find again"

Hunter Rider is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-02-2013, 09:24 PM   #58
cherokeesam
SHIELD Director Coulson
 
cherokeesam's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Cherokee, NC
Posts: 11,459
Default Re: The Winter Soldier Thread

If they keep that look in the concept art, then the domino mask *is* definitely there, beneath his goggles.

Also, since they keep the red star on his bionic arm, I'm thinking that it's becoming a lot clearer that they're sticking to the comics as far as WS' handlers --- i.e., (former) Soviets.

__________________
THE COTTON AVENGERS

...They move like slick cotton on oil.

---Echostation, 3/18/2014
cherokeesam is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-02-2013, 10:54 PM   #59
Webfoot Hero
Side-Kick
 
Webfoot Hero's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Oregon
Posts: 5,567
Default Re: The Winter Soldier Thread

Are we sure he has a domino mask underneath? I keep thinking it's just a part of his goggles.

Webfoot Hero is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-02-2013, 11:45 PM   #60
DN91
Star-Spangled Man
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Canada
Posts: 519
Default Re: The Winter Soldier Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by Webfoot Hero View Post
Are we sure he has a domino mask underneath? I keep thinking it's just a part of his goggles.
I'm thinking it's the rims of his cool-as-heck goggles, not his domino mask.

DN91 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2013, 12:23 AM   #61
Mr. Dent
Banned User
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Posts: 8,959
Default Re: The Winter Soldier Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by Webfoot Hero View Post
Are we sure he has a domino mask underneath? I keep thinking it's just a part of his goggles.
It is.

Mr. Dent is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2013, 05:39 AM   #62
Silvermoth
Avenger
 
Silvermoth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Australia
Posts: 6,364
Default Re: The Winter Soldier Thread

The Winter Soldier looks awesome but I'm surprised they haven't cast General Lukin. I would have thought he would be a pretty important character to include, way more than Crossbones or whatever. Maybe they just haven't announced it yet or they're keeping it a secret?

Or maybe they're worried a character like that might offend the Russians. Kind of a shame because I don't really see the Winter Soldier, Crossbones or Batroc as major puppeteers type villains, more like goons.

__________________
Mutant and proud.

Can't wait for X-men: apocalypse!!
Silvermoth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2013, 07:21 AM   #63
cherokeesam
SHIELD Director Coulson
 
cherokeesam's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Cherokee, NC
Posts: 11,459
Default Re: The Winter Soldier Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by DN91 View Post
I'm thinking it's the rims of his cool-as-heck goggles, not his domino mask.
Why would goggles have two sets of rims?

The rims are plainly visible there as silver/white/metallic. Then there's black, that extends up into diamond points *beneath* that....like a domino mask. Y'know --- the domino mask from the comic book?

__________________
THE COTTON AVENGERS

...They move like slick cotton on oil.

---Echostation, 3/18/2014
cherokeesam is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2013, 07:48 AM   #64
BullMcGiveny
Side-Kick
 
BullMcGiveny's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,283
Default Re: The Winter Soldier Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by Silvermoth View Post
The Winter Soldier looks awesome but I'm surprised they haven't cast General Lukin. I would have thought he would be a pretty important character to include, way more than Crossbones or whatever. Maybe they just haven't announced it yet or they're keeping it a secret?

Or maybe they're worried a character like that might offend the Russians. Kind of a shame because I don't really see the Winter Soldier, Crossbones or Batroc as major puppeteers type villains, more like goons.
I think the cold war angle will be only brushed briefly.

On the other hand, I do wonder if Alexander Lukin is going to turn out to be the true identity of Alexander Pierce. Perhaps Lukin spent decades as an agent of SHIELD while secretly having an agenda of his own.

BullMcGiveny is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2013, 07:54 AM   #65
LuisTX85
Caped Crusader
 
LuisTX85's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 15,042
Default Re: The Winter Soldier Thread

Great concept art and I like the look!

__________________
75 Years Of The Dark Knight And Still Going Strong!
LuisTX85 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2013, 08:48 AM   #66
DaddlerTheDalek
Starship Captain
 
DaddlerTheDalek's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Germany, NRW
Posts: 738
Default Re: The Winter Soldier Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hunter Rider View Post
I am loving the look they have gone for.

Really Cool!

DaddlerTheDalek is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2013, 09:01 AM   #67
bunk
superhero fan
 
bunk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 9,476
Default Re: The Winter Soldier Thread

They'll be shooting the Teddy Roosevelt bridge in D.C. on Sunday. Sounds like it will probably just be aerial shots.

__________________
If a ghost exists, that means the world's broken. Howard Kremer
bunk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2013, 09:53 AM   #68
Quasimod0
Bell-Ringer
 
Quasimod0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Florida
Posts: 8,676
Default Re: The Winter Soldier Thread

I like the look. Looks exactly like the winter soldier I know, but with a mask. So I'm actually cool with it

__________________
Movies I have seen this year:
Saving Mr. Banks- 9/10, Jack Ryan- 7/10, The Lego Movie- 9/10, Non-Stop- 8/10, Captain America: The Winter Soldier- 10/10, The Amazing Spider-Man 2-8/10, Godzilla- 7/10, Days of Future Past- 8.5/10, Edge of Tomorrow- 8.5/10, Transformers 4- 8/10, Dawn of the Planet of the Apes- 10/10
Quasimod0 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2013, 07:13 PM   #69
Silvermoth
Avenger
 
Silvermoth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Australia
Posts: 6,364
Default Re: The Winter Soldier Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by BullMcGiveny View Post
I think the cold war angle will be only brushed briefly.

On the other hand, I do wonder if Alexander Lukin is going to turn out to be the true identity of Alexander Pierce. Perhaps Lukin spent decades as an agent of SHIELD while secretly having an agenda of his own.
That...is a very good idea. Plus it fits the cold war espionage theme. Who do you trust etc. Very le Carre.

__________________
Mutant and proud.

Can't wait for X-men: apocalypse!!
Silvermoth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2013, 07:18 PM   #70
DN91
Star-Spangled Man
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Canada
Posts: 519
Default Re: The Winter Soldier Thread

I hope we get a shout out to the original Winter Soldier comic story with the "Who the hell is Bucky?" line.

DN91 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2013, 07:42 PM   #71
herolee10
S.W. Mourner
 
herolee10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 14,977
Default Re: The Winter Soldier Thread

I'm actually wondering though on how they'll present Winter Soldier being someone that can go toe to toe with Rogers since I don't think Bucky was given anything special that gave him the same type of physical attributes that Steve got from the SS and that alone makes Roger stronger than most regular human beings.

herolee10 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2013, 10:45 PM   #72
cph9fa
Side-Kick
 
cph9fa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: A planet of outlaws
Posts: 834
Default Re: The Winter Soldier Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by cherokeesam View Post
Why would goggles have two sets of rims?

The rims are plainly visible there as silver/white/metallic. Then there's black, that extends up into diamond points *beneath* that....like a domino mask. Y'know --- the domino mask from the comic book?
I was thinking the silver part was the rigid frame, and the black was a soft rubber cup around the edge. Like swimming goggles have.

cph9fa is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2013, 11:56 PM   #73
cherokeesam
SHIELD Director Coulson
 
cherokeesam's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Cherokee, NC
Posts: 11,459
Default Re: The Winter Soldier Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by BullMcGiveny View Post
I think the cold war angle will be only brushed briefly.

On the other hand, I do wonder if Alexander Lukin is going to turn out to be the true identity of Alexander Pierce. Perhaps Lukin spent decades as an agent of SHIELD while secretly having an agenda of his own.

Holy crap.
That's a genius idea.

Could also explain why there hasn't been a real "frontrunner" for WS' puppet master. And given Marvel Studios' propensity for hiring Oscar-caliber actors for their villains, Redford makes a lot of sense.

__________________
THE COTTON AVENGERS

...They move like slick cotton on oil.

---Echostation, 3/18/2014
cherokeesam is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-04-2013, 12:00 AM   #74
psylockolussus
The X-Men 5 Advocator!
 
psylockolussus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: The future, where else would I be?
Posts: 18,011
Default Re: The Winter Soldier Thread

I can't wait to see Sebastian Stan. I think he's quite attractive and hot!

__________________
X-MEN RI5E' MUTANT OF THE MONTH | ICEMAN | PORTRAYED BY SHAWN ASHMORE
"Welcome to mutant high" - X1
"Call me Iceman" - X2
"Don't ever do that again" - X3
"They'll find us they'll always do" - X4
JOIN MY ADVOCACY ON www.twitter.com/xmen5movie2018/
psylockolussus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-04-2013, 06:44 AM   #75
peterparker0077
Side-Kick
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: tampa, fl
Posts: 1,507
Default Re: The Winter Soldier Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by cherokeesam View Post
Holy crap.
That's a genius idea.

Could also explain why there hasn't been a real "frontrunner" for WS' puppet master. And given Marvel Studios' propensity for hiring Oscar-caliber actors for their villains, Redford makes a lot of sense.
yep, i have been thinking this since they cast him and we heard of Fury's angle in the film. Posted it a while back.

peterparker0077 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:58 PM.

monitoring_string = "dee460792f24517621e3ca080805de7e"
Contact Us - Mobile - SuperHeroHype - ComingSoon.net - Shock Till You Drop - Lost Password - Clear Cookies - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Top - AdChoices


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SuperHeroHype.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2014 All Rights Reserved.