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Old 04-19-2013, 01:44 PM   #676
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I guess there's never been a sequel that has ever been reworked upon from the first, being much better.
There has. GI Joe Retaliation for instance. Terminator 2 was another. In both cases, the hero from the first one is removed to give the franchise a new identity, which goes a long way towards its success.

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Yes it's funny how people always forget Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan.
No one forgot it, but I don't compare apples to oranges. If GL had a beloved landmark TV show, it couldn't rebrand itself with a 2nd movie, like T2 or GIJ:Retaliation did. It wouldn't need to, because the public would already have an attachment to the characters, and simply look at the 1st film as a bad film, instead of identifying the main character with being contrived, dull and uninteresting.

Generally, movies that are panned like GL was don't ever get sequels, so in the few times that it's happened, the whole thing has been retooled, including changing the main character(s). Making a better version, that is, the same cast with a better writer and more keyed in budget is what good successful movies get. Green Lantern is not that.

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I can't imagine that WB will ever try again with the GL character. Which is really ashame.

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There has. GI Joe Retaliation for instance. Terminator 2 was another. In both cases, the hero from the first one is removed to give the franchise a new identity, which goes a long way towards its success.



No one forgot it, but I don't compare apples to oranges. If GL had a beloved landmark TV show, it couldn't rebrand itself with a 2nd movie, like T2 or GIJ:Retaliation did. It wouldn't need to, because the public would already have an attachment to the characters, and simply look at the 1st film as a bad film, instead of identifying the main character with being contrived, dull and uninteresting.

Generally, movies that are panned like GL was don't ever get sequels, so in the few times that it's happened, the whole thing has been retooled, including changing the main character(s). Making a better version, that is, the same cast with a better writer and more keyed in budget is what good successful movies get. Green Lantern is not that.
So a sequel with like John Stewart or something?

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^This is what I'm thinking. I'll admit, JS used to be one of my favorites.

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I can't imagine that WB will ever try again with the GL character. Which is really ashame.
Yeah, probably not. But, GIJOE does show big studios will get behind a franchise if it's totally overhauled and headed up by a sure-fire star.

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Yes it's funny how people always forget Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan.
Both of you missed the amount of sarcasm I was using.

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So a sequel with like John Stewart or something?

I'd be ok with this, I always liked John more then Hal anyway.


P.S David Oyelowo for John Stewart.

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I wouldn't use Terminator as an example. The first film was extremely popular and successful. The second one was just moreso. That was a completely different situation than the one facing Green Lantern now.

Also, the hero couldn't be in the sequel on account of being dead.

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Both of you missed the amount of sarcasm I was using.

I recognized your sarcasm. I was simply agreeing with it.

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Oh, I gotcha. Never seen a ST movie in my life, so my fault for messing up.

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Sarcasm is overrated.

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I can't imagine that WB will ever try again with the GL character. Which is really ashame.
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Old 04-24-2013, 02:49 PM   #687
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-Wait until the "Guardians of The Galaxy" movie is released and take notes if it's a good film and also a commercial success.

-Call the new movie "Green Lantern Corps" instead of "Green Lantern 2".

-Find a good director with experience on VFX, with a great visual style and with remarkable storytelling skills. Campbell has done great movies ("Casino Royale", "Goldeneye"), but needed a better script, so find a good writer that knows the characters and its mythology, just don't bother to start filming until a great script has been written. The visuals and designs in the first movie were good, specially for the lanterns, the guardians and all the stuff related to Oa, it could have been much better with an improved script imo.

-Place most of the movie in space and other planets instead of focusing the threats/story on Earth.

-Recast if necessary like "The Incredible Hulk" did without needing a reboot. Reynolds was ok, the rest was kind of forgettable except for Strong that was a great casting choice for Sinestro imo. Maybe they could keep the cast for the lanterns (cgi based ones included) since we would barely see Ferris and the rest of Earth's cast, but I would understand if the producers wanted to avoid all connections to the previous film and start fresh after "Man of Steel", with the new movie belonging to the same universe of the new Superman movie and being different to the universe of Reynolds' film.

-A new origin story is unnecessary, start the film with Jordan being a respected member of the lanterns already, with maybe a couple of hints to how he got the ring (maybe Sinestro could mention how he thinks that Abin Sur was a superior lantern or something like that, without needing a flashback, just intelligent hints here and there).

-Make it funny (or not excessively dramatic and boring), but much more serious than the previous one, this shouldn't be a pseudocomedy. Make it closer to "First Flight" than to the previous feature film.

-The Green Lanterns Corps are like cool jedis, the cops of the universe. Many of them are misteriously dying or dissapearing. The guardians and lanterns somehow eventually find out that Sinestro has betrayed them and is using the yellow energy to form his own army with the rings of the murdered lanterns that have been turned into yellow rings through his own yellow battery built by himself or by the weaponers of Qwad, something similar to "First Flight" but with more Yellow Lanterns, with a huge final battle of Green Lantern Corps vs Yellow Lantern Corps. This would be like the jedis vs sith wars, being Sinestro the obvious Darth Vader of this franchise.

-End the story with something great, the Green Lantern Corps (not just Hal, hence the name even if Hal is the main character) win an spectacular battle in space, and Hal obviously defeats Sinestro in a cool fight in Oa before the guardians are murdered, avoid finishing the menace throwing the villain/s to the sun, that was lame.


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Old 04-24-2013, 02:55 PM   #688
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Can someone explain to me what was so atrocious about the first GL movie that makes the franchise so irredeemable? I never saw it. Didn't like Reynolds in the role from what I saw and it just seemed sorta like a paint by numbers CGI driven "romp". I f***in' hate romps. Lol jk

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Can someone explain to me what was so atrocious about the first GL movie that makes the franchise so irredeemable? I never saw it. Didn't like Reynolds in the role from what I saw and it just seemed sorta like a paint by numbers CGI driven "romp". I f***in' hate romps. Lol jk
It grossed 219M on a 200M budget, and got abysmal reviews. That's what makes it 'irredeemable'.

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Not having read any John Stewart GL, I have not much idea of who are the characters crucial to his story arc except may be Katma Tui.

So, anyone have any idea of the characters- Lanterns, Earthlings- that should be there in a movie involving Stewart as the Green Lantern? Actually I'm looking forward to fancasting a GL Corps movie.

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I think a Stewart movie, especially a GL2 would focus more on Space. Perhaps cameos by Carol Ferris or have reporter Tawny Young as an earthbound rival love interest. If there was an Earthbound villain, Sonar, more based towards the second/current/cool one than anything.

The main focus in my version would be space, specifically the characters:
John Stewart - clearly
Thaal Sinestro - main villain, starting his own Corps now
Katma Tui - Love Interest begins as John's personal trainer
Kilowog - Cool Advisor, strong guy with heart
Ch'p - Largely comic relief.
Mogo - The relaxing retreat itself is the epic wise advisor type
Fatality - other love interest, until planet is destroyed by Parallax due to John's unwillingness to kill him
Hal Jordan - Here as Parallax, sacrifices self in the end
Bedovian - That crab sniper, minor character
Lyssa Drak - Sinestro's reader/assistant, minor character
Arkillo - Sinestro's very effective enforcer, minor character
Ganthet - and other guardians, minor characters in terms of screen time

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So, what I have in mind right now is a sequel involving John Stewart and set in space. Obviously!

It is set 12-15 years after the events of Green Lantern which according to me is chronologically the first event of the DC Universe which takes place when Bruce Wayne is away and presumed dead in Begins.

Hal Jordan has gone missing and probably captured by a new force which harnesses the power of fear.

New Earth GL John Stewart (receives the ring in the midst of Brainiac's attack on Earth in Justice League) is summoned to Oa for formal training under Kilowog, Tomar-Re and Katma Tui.

I don't think I want to use Ch'p as he is too similar to Rocket Racoon. I prefer Salaak.

Regarding the Sinestro Corps, I'm going for Arkillo, Lyssa Drak, and Bedovian. Lyssa Drak is very loyal to Sinestro and I'd personally like the relation not being strictly platonic.

I don't want to use Fatality as I want to bring back Carol as Star Sapphire towards the end.

Also, I think there is a negative publicity around Parallax and I don't want Hal to take that identity. If anything, maybe Sinestro traps him on Ryut as a nod to where Parallax was trapped in the first film.

Towards the end, Hal Jordan is rescued and the two Earthlings repel the Sinestro Corps and save the galaxy. Katma Tui and Stewart kiss.

The Zamarons prepare to attack Oa lead by their newest Star Sapphire setting it up for a classic Hal Jordan- John Stewart space buddy cop adventure in the threequel.

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-Wait until the "Guardians of The Galaxy" movie is released and take notes if it's a good film and also a commercial success.

-Call the new movie "Green Lantern Corps" instead of "Green Lantern 2".

-Find a good director with experience on VFX, with a great visual style and with remarkable storytelling skills. Campbell has done great movies ("Casino Royale", "Goldeneye"), but needed a better script, so find a good writer that knows the characters and its mythology, just don't bother to start filming until a great script has been written. The visuals and designs in the first movie were good, specially for the lanterns, the guardians and all the stuff related to Oa, it could have been much better with an improved script imo.

-Place most of the movie in space and other planets instead of focusing the threats/story on Earth.

-Recast if necessary like "The Incredible Hulk" did without needing a reboot. Reynolds was ok, the rest was kind of forgettable except for Strong that was a great casting choice for Sinestro imo. Maybe they could keep the cast for the lanterns (cgi based ones included) since we would barely see Ferris and the rest of Earth's cast, but I would understand if the producers wanted to avoid all connections to the previous film and start fresh after "Man of Steel", with the new movie belonging to the same universe of the new Superman movie and being different to the universe of Reynolds' film.

-A new origin story is unnecessary, start the film with Jordan being a respected member of the lanterns already, with maybe a couple of hints to how he got the ring (maybe Sinestro could mention how he thinks that Abin Sur was a superior lantern or something like that, without needing a flashback, just intelligent hints here and there).

-Make it funny (or not excessively dramatic and boring), but much more serious than the previous one, this shouldn't be a pseudocomedy. Make it closer to "First Flight" than to the previous feature film.

-The Green Lanterns Corps are like cool jedis, the cops of the universe. Many of them are misteriously dying or dissapearing. The guardians and lanterns somehow eventually find out that Sinestro has betrayed them and is using the yellow energy to form his own army with the rings of the murdered lanterns that have been turned into yellow rings through his own yellow battery built by himself or by the weaponers of Qwad, something similar to "First Flight" but with more Yellow Lanterns, with a huge final battle of Green Lantern Corps vs Yellow Lantern Corps. This would be like the jedis vs sith wars, being Sinestro the obvious Darth Vader of this franchise.

-End the story with something great, the Green Lantern Corps (not just Hal, hence the name even if Hal is the main character) win an spectacular battle in space, and Hal obviously defeats Sinestro in a cool fight in Oa before the guardians are murdered, avoid finishing the menace throwing the villain/s to the sun, that was lame.
I really like this idea!!

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I'd like to see the Green Lantern franchise rebooted thusly:

-Rename the series "Green Lantern Corps"
-Green Lantern (2011) provides a basic framework of events that happened
-Green Lantern Corps is a requel series
-Kronalax's attack was covered up by ARGUS as a terrorist attack in Coast City, hence the smoke
-New tone, aesthetic, mainly sticking to practical effects, and cast keep Sinestro though

Green Lantern Corps: Rebirth

-Film begins with Hal Jordan already serving as GL of Sector 2814
-Hal is often paired with Sinestro to work together on missions
-Hal becomes increasingly weary of Sinestro's brutal methods (capturing Atrocitus)
-Sinestro takes Hal to his "ordered" homeworld
-Hal reports him in to the Guardians, Sinestro is expelled from the Corps to Qward
-Guardians double the size of patrol in sectors to check the other GL, John is recruited
-Sinestro discovers that Krona was not Parallax, just infected by the yellow light
-Sinestro recovers his yellow ring and battles Hal and John on Oa
-Sinestro infects Hal with the true Parallax, and Hal goes berserk until he is focused by John and Parallax is imprisoned in the CPB
-Sinestro is defeated

Green Lantern Corps: Recharge

-More Earth based than predecessor, but with an interstellar conspiracy surrounding it.
-Time spent on Earth would focus on Hal and Carol, and the friendship between John and Guy
-Perhaps take down Black Hand?
-One red and blue cyborg that absorbs GL energy attacks Hal and John.
-Bulk of the film is Hal and John uncovering a conspiracy buried by Abin Sur and track down Atrocitus, imprisoned in the first film.
-Together they uncover the massacre of Sector 666
-The Manhunters are reactivated (hinted to be Sinestro) and attack the location of the Lantern of Sector 2814
-Unable to fight them alone, Hal and John's rings initiate the deputising protocol, John deputises Guy Gardener and Hal, Kyle Rayner (working at Ferris Air designing planes?)
-Still unable to successfully repel all Manhunters, the Guardians unleash Ion, intended for Hal, but instead takes Kyle, who destroys all the Manhunters.

Green Lantern Corps: Sinestro Corps War

-Exactly what it says on the tin, pretty much.

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I think Blomkamp would be perfect for GL Corps, not only stylistically, but for budget sake.

District 9, a film with perhaps better effects and alien design than GL 2011, was made for only 30 million, like 1/7 the budget of GL.

If WB are cautious about sinking a lot of money into GL again, they should get this guy.

I also thing some handheld camera would be great. Perhaps it could make the usually hard-to-believe visuals of the constructs into something more believable. Lending it more gravitas.

but I guess we'll see if District 9 was a fluke when we see Elysium.


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Didn't Johns or someone else say a day or two ago GL2 was in the cards, or trying to be worked on?

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There is no way GL2 is happening. WB wants a DC Cinematic Universe starting with Man of Steel. Man of Steel is meant to showcase mankind's first contact with aliens but in Green Lantern, both Hal and Amanda Waller say that Abin Sur was mankind's first contact with aliens. Thus GL doesn't fit with MOS' universe regardless of when it takes place.

For those of you saying John Stewart should be used instead of Hal because he is more interesting, I think you're basing that on the JL/JLU show. Throughout most of his comic book years, John was a boring bland character. Only thing he has going for him is that he is the black Green Lantern. Take that away and he is just a plain GL member as opposed to someone like Luke Cage, who is a great character that just happens to be black. The John Stewart in the JL show was good because he wasn't the John Stewart of the comics, and in fact, he had many Hal Jordan elements incorporated into him much like how the Flash had a lot of Barry Allen elements incorporated into him despite being Wally West.


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John Stewart wasn't exactly "interesting" in the JL cartoon, either.

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A heck of a lot more interesting than his comic book counterpart though.

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