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I get that money is an issue and the training thing is probably also a huge pain in the ass, but these rumors are still hugely disappointing, especially in relation to Hemsworth's trepidation about coming back. Marvel made your frickin' career, and you're gunna be pissed that they're only willing to pay the amount agreed to in your contract?? I'd think the smaller actors would be willing to work with Marvel because of the chance the studio took on them. RDJ should be pretty willing too, considering Marvel gave him his old career back as well.
And I'm sorry, but I couldn't feel any less sympathy over these stories about millionaires whining because they want millions more to act on camera or play a sport I understand it would suck to train so much, but f***in' boo hoo, it's what you get paid for, I'm very disappointed in Mr. Hemsworth if this is all true
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The topic of them not needing more money is, while true, a slippery slope since I can't justify how I can sit here and complain about movies and so on when people starve and work for less than $1 per day in other parts of the world. |
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The money has to go somewhere. Would you rather it completely line the pockets of the fat cat's atop Marvel? If you're pissed about the money these people make then stop paying for tickets. When they signed Hemsworth they included "options" for renegotiations before filming some of the other films. What he's doing is perfectly acceptable and within his rights. $5 million for Hemsworth is a drop in the big Marvel bucket. Marvel gave him the opportunity, but he MADE the character. Without him it's not the same. It goes both ways. Quote:
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I'm not saying the studio execs deserve it, hell, nobody deserves it
just like with athletes and the team owners all these motherf*****ers complain about money, when they get paid ridiculous sums of money just to entertain us for an hour or two That said, I understand wanting a raise after the billion dollar windfall from Avengers, but to have a bad enough attitude to walk away from the films is uncalled for. Yes, people like Hemsworth as Thor, but if it weren't for these movies, he'd still be a nameless Australian Soap actor. And it's not like Hemsworth is a proven commodity outside Thor, SW&TH hardly dominated the box office. I'd hate to see it because I loved Thor in both his film appearances, but if worse comes to worse he could definitely be recast. Unfortunately, depending on how the contracts were structured, the actors may have no leg to stand on in this. I'm not intimately familiar with the details, but a contract's a contract, s**t's legally binding. The news about Chris Evans seems even stranger because he was reportedly so careful about getting what he wanted in the contract last time around but I dunno, the only thing I'd say to any of these guys is: Terrence Howard's career.
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I take all these rumors lightly. There's always crap spread around whenever actors are negotiating contracts with studios. Can you honestly imagine any of these actors not wanting to continue in TA2 or their own individual next movie? Or imagine that the studio will suddenly start making wholesale cast changes after the success they've had building them up? It's a stalemate for all involved and they'll all come to some agreement.
In tv world a lot of shows go belly up after 5 years because at that point most of the original cast who joined (often as unknowns) have become famous or well known and have 5 year contracts expiring and to re-sign them at the new rates massively increases the cost of making the show. Plus after 5 years the full time actors are entitled to syndication royalties, so they get that bit back from the show even if they're no longer in it. It's business. And the people negotiating will be the managers and agents, not the actors themselves. And it will all be worked out but until it is Hollywood rags will keep spewing out OMGDRAMA! articles. I don't believe for a second that Hemsworth deliberately slackened off his training. Look at his body! He looks better this time around and can hopefully appear more athletic with less of the bulk in his thighs but still retaining that fabulous upper body and with a less puffy face than the first movie. Yes, I said puffy, because I can't find a better word to describe it. |
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I don't think they should get paid as much as RDJ got paid for Avengers (hell, I'm not sure RDJ should've gotten paid as much as he got paid) but I do think the rest of the cast has been underpaid. I think ideally they should probably get a percentage on the back end (especially if, perhaps, they negotiate things so that they don't take as much up front). Anywho... yeah, just my opinion. Negotiations, they happen. Nothing abnormal about it.
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I'm not arguing with you that with such a huge pool of cash, the actors deserve as much as anyone else. I was just stating that, based on these hopefully sensationalized reports, it's upsetting to see a bunch of millionaires act like babies But as others have said, hopefully this is all just THR and Deadline drumming up the drama to get page views. Based on the Collider interview with Evans, it certainly doesn't sound like he has any bad feelings toward Marvel.
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Marvel is greedy and has allegedly even threatened actors who asked for more sallary to replace them. Let's face it: They did that in the past! IM and RDJ have grossed so much money... Money they used to build up MS and make the Avengers which became the third sucessfull movie of all time. Why can't they just give a little bit of that huge cake to the actors instead of kicking everyone out who is not agreeing to this kind of behavior. I have so much respect especially for Chris who has to get muscles like a god ... like each year. It deeply saddens me. I simply REFUSE to get another actor for IM, or for THOR!!
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Yeah I'm not worrying too much about the cast not returning. They'd be so foolish not to.
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If you got an offer from a different company to do roughly the same job but get twice the pay, would you stick around your current employer because you don't need more money? I think very few would. So people using their contracted stipulations of renegotiation are acting like babies, but not paying for the entertainment you consume and still sit there and have lots of opinions about how it should be done is not? I think my world view is quite different from yours. |
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well see, you said it there, Snow White was less work, made less box office, and he got more money for it, so in what way was that bigger paycheck earned?
And waiting for movies to be on free-ish video services as opposed to paying 12 bucks in a theater because you're poor is very different from rich people demanding a couple million extra to play pretend on camera but anyway, once again, hoping it's all being blown out of proportion
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He got paid more for Snow White because his going rate has increased, which is a common occurence when you become a more highly sought name. Deservedly so. You're right Bored. He should just be paid one low, below-market contract for the rest of his career. ![]() |
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Yeah until I actually SEE something in print I wouldn't worry too much About Chris not returning
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Well I wouldn't be a bit Surprised if it IS true that Liam Hemsworth is approached for the part. I mean he was in the running as well for the original part
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Cannot see Chris Hemsworth leaving the role of thor and the avengers . That would be a bonehead career move. Negotiating is one thing but he does not strike me as someone who would walk out. He would have to be fired
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He won't walk out on Avengers 2. He just won't return for Thor 3 or A3. Which I'm fine with same with Evans. I think A2 will be his last time in the suit.
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Evans has a 6 picture contract though
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^ Chris Hemsworth has a 6 picture deal as well.
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What happens if they walk out on their contract?
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heh they get sued? I mean they signed contracts that got them famous and made them worth more in the long run so they CAN ask for more from OTHER company's.
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Yup, they get sued. so it's best if marvel and the actors find some middle ground in these negotiations
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