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Old 05-09-2013, 03:14 PM   #551
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I would bet good money on SpOck still wearing the suit when ASM2 hits the theatres...

Now come to reality my good man. Peter will be back in the suit before the movie if not immediately soon after.

I'm actually one issue behind on this and the controversy has kind of jaded me to actually reading it. So far I'm enjoying the book but not nearly as much as I was when it was just Amazing Spider-Man. Mainly because of the issues of how Slott writes Otto as Spider-Man and he sounds like Otto.

But in the Avengers book and other appearances he sounds more like Peter.

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Here's an issue that I have and I've brought it up before. A ghost by definition is the spirit of a dead person. To use the reference "Ghost Peter", IMO is wrong. Peter Parker is not dead.He still has a living body and brain. I still go back to spirit or ectoplasmic Peter. SpOck wiped out Peter in a computer not in essence. And as I said before, in computer language delete does not mean destroyed.
As far as Peter and the little girl, Peter was not only facing a moral decision but a life and death situation as well.Here he's been doing everything in his power to get his physical body back and he's got to make a choice between the little girl and his life. Self preservation will always kick in. But ultimately self sacrifice(hesitation-guilt) wins out with Peter.It also serves as the whole that all bad guys know they can run a truck through ie,conscience-something they don't have.
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As long as "Peter" has a Ph.D and keeps a well paying job before Ock is exorcised, I'll be happy.
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He deserves the Ph.D. Whether he keeps a good paying job or not depends.To be Spider-Man he needs a job that allows him as much flexibility as possible. That's why I mentioned once before that since Peter knows T Stark and Mr Fantastic as well as T'Challa, maybe he could do "contract work" that would allow him to do his Spidey thing as long as he got his work out within an established deadline.9 to 5 Peter-NO WAY!
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Aloha,
Here's an issue that I have and I've brought it up before. A ghost by definition is the spirit of a dead person. To use the reference "Ghost Peter", IMO is wrong. Peter Parker is not dead.He still has a living body and brain. I still go back to spirit or ectoplasmic Peter. SpOck wiped out Peter in a computer not in essence. And as I said before, in computer language delete does not mean destroyed.
As far as Peter and the little girl, Peter was not only facing a moral decision but a life and death situation as well.Here he's been doing everything in his power to get his physical body back and he's got to make a choice between the little girl and his life. Self preservation will always kick in. But ultimately self sacrifice(hesitation-guilt) wins out with Peter.It also serves as the whole that all bad guys know they can run a truck through ie,conscience-something they don't have.
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I bought all the issues to this yesterday, and while I still have two more to read before I'm fully caught up, I am loving this series.

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I also might be applying too much logic to a comic book, but another issue that has kept me from out right loving this. Is exactly the fact that Peter has started talking more like Otto and the villains are the ones that notice it more than Peter's family and friends.

Like you'd think Mary Jane, Aunt May, Carlie, etc would be wondering why Peter started talking like he has. It just rings false to me that they'd be the ones in the dark.

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I also might be applying too much logic to a comic book, but another issue that has kept me from out right loving this. Is exactly the fact that Peter has started talking more like Otto and the villains are the ones that notice it more than Peter's family and friends.

Like you'd think Mary Jane, Aunt May, Carlie, etc would be wondering why Peter started talking like he has. It just rings false to me that they'd be the ones in the dark.
MJ has had her WTF moments with Peter... and Carlie certainly has an eye open...

Even the people at Horizons have basically started to think that Peter has somehow elevated his own status...

And Aunt May would never notice, because SpOck has a soft spot for her and will treat her nice...

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“Run, Goblin, Run!” Part 1 of 2
• What’s it like to be a villain in the Marvel Universe...once the Superior Spider-Man sets his sights on you?
• Find out, from Phil Urich’s point of view, in what might be the final days of the Hobgoblin.
• Plus, what is the secret of “The Tinkerer’s Apprentice”? Who’s been helping the Terrible Tinkerer? And how is he, of all people, the reason everything in Spider-Man’s life will be changed forever?!
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• How has the Hobgoblin evaded the Superior Spider-Man for so long? And does that hold the key to the Superior Spider-Man’s greatest success -- or greatest failure? It’s the end of the line for Hobgoblin, and possibly an end for a big chapter in the history of Spider-Man.
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And like I posted in the Scarlet Spider thread, in that Marvel article I linked says that apparently the solicits for Scarlet Spider 21 say that Kaine is going to be meeting up with none other than Ben Reilly.

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The new suit looks awesome. God, I love this book. I wouldn't mind Peter staying gone for a loooong time.

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I wouldn't say I 'called it', but I definitely mentioned the possibility of Sp-Ock going back to mechanical limbs, but using something similar to Iron Spider's limbs. I like the new suit for the most part and the spider legs are quite nice. It's like Ben Reilly meets the Alex Ross design with a dash of Iron Spider.

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Maybe that's why I like it so much, I really dug the Iron Spider suit too.

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MJ has had her WTF moments with Peter... and Carlie certainly has an eye open...

Even the people at Horizons have basically started to think that Peter has somehow elevated his own status...

And Aunt May would never notice, because SpOck has a soft spot for her and will treat her nice...
I'm aware...

But..

It's not enough like they seem dimwitted and slow to catch on. Because the clear difference in character between Peter and Otto is outstanding. That it'd seem like it'd be an overwhelming change.

That would immediately make anyone go ''WHOA. Yeah. That's not Peter. It can't be." and the only person that really seems to have reached that level is Carlie and that's just feels like Slott's usual favoritism towards her.

Even the whole issue with The Avengers almost catching on then not...felt off.

That combined with the way only certain writers write SpideyOck like Slott does seems like this is going on way longer than it really should. This would've been nice for like a short arc, but as an ongoing there's just far too many issues to keep it going at the rate it's going.

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The only thing that bugs me about the new suit are the trainer effect on the feet. It seems too much like the trainer effect on the ASM movie suit which I didn't like either. I do think the costume needs more going on in the boots or leg department, but the little trainer effect is just off-putting. Everything else looks interesting so far though.

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I'm aware...

But..

It's not enough like they seem dimwitted and slow to catch on. Because the clear difference in character between Peter and Otto is outstanding. That it'd seem like it'd be an overwhelming change.

That would immediately make anyone go ''WHOA. Yeah. That's not Peter. It can't be." and the only person that really seems to have reached that level is Carlie and that's just feels like Slott's usual favoritism towards her.

Even the whole issue with The Avengers almost catching on then not...felt off.

That combined with the way only certain writers write SpideyOck like Slott does seems like this is going on way longer than it really should. This would've been nice for like a short arc, but as an ongoing there's just far too many issues to keep it going at the rate it's going.
I'm not disagreeing with you...

I also think that most of the people that knows Peter/Spider-Man would think something is up...

In regards to the Avengers, while it would appear that his behaviour is "off-putting" (to say the least), admittedly, they all have blood on their hands, and in their point of view, Spidey's behaviour changed after the death of his greatest enemy, Dr. Octopus, so maybe they're thinking that he's "dealing with things" differently...

I know it's a stretch, but I could see that...

Obviously, since shooting Massacre, MJ should not believe that is Peter Parker, though having said that, we haven't seen MJ at all since the Massacre killing...

it's all going to catch up with SpOck at some point... but until then, Slott and Marvel will tell stories that have been pretty good... and until the sales drop affects the book, then we'll see the switch... and as a writer, it's a unique opportunity to write a beloved character with his greatest enemy in control...

So have fun and enjoy the ride. :up;


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The only thing that bugs me about the new suit are the trainer effect on the feet. It seems too much like the trainer effect on the ASM movie suit which I didn't like either. I do think the costume needs more going on in the boots or leg department, but the little trainer effect is just off-putting. Everything else looks interesting so far though.
Is there a diff pic of the suit where you can see his feet? The 1 I see, his feet are hidden behind Hobgoblin.

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Is there a diff pic of the suit where you can see his feet? The 1 I see, his feet are hidden behind Hobgoblin.
Near the top of the page of this thread. There are a couple of more covers.

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Obviously, since shooting Massacre, MJ should not believe that is Peter Parker, though having said that, we haven't seen MJ at all since the Massacre killing...
Actually, we see MJ later watching Pete beat the hell out of Joyride and Jester or whatever their names were and she says, "Peter? There's no way that's..."

MJ has noted other times Pete is not acting like Pete. Sorry not every normal human being is thinking MINDSWAP right away.

And TMOB, I know you weren't complaining but addressing JustABill. So my post wasn't aimed at you.

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Well, duh, to have normal citizens assume mindswap would just...not gel as well as I feel IMO the reactions to OckSpidey are gelling with me.

I don't know it's a decent book, but it just feels slightly more hokey than I assumed it would be going into it.

Perhaps it's because I assumed Ock would actually actively be trying to be Peter Parker and he's not even trying the slightest.

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