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Old 05-07-2013, 05:22 PM   #876
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Apparently there are enough votes for the same-sex marriage bill in Minnesota to pass. A vote is expected next week where it will most likely succeed.

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Old 05-07-2013, 05:32 PM   #877
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Apparently there are enough votes for the same-sex marriage bill in Minnesota to pass. A vote is expected next week where it will most likely succeed.
if Minnesota can do it, than i've got faith for some other states... There's plenty of religious zealots (even in my own family) from there...

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Old 05-07-2013, 05:59 PM   #878
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Yeah, but I still wish same-sex marriage will become legal in a US state that makes good cornbread and fried okra though.

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Old 05-07-2013, 06:02 PM   #879
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The day the South legalizes gay marriage is the day hell freezes over.

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I had fried okra with dinner a couple of nights ago.

If there had been more of it, I would have just had it FOR dinner.

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Old 05-07-2013, 07:36 PM   #881
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Apparently there are enough votes for the same-sex marriage bill in Minnesota to pass. A vote is expected next week where it will most likely succeed.
This makes me even more convinced that the Court is going to sidestep Prop 8 on standing grounds. After all, why make a legacy defining decision when they don't have to?

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This makes me even more convinced that the Court is going to sidestep Prop 8 on standing grounds. After all, why make a legacy defining decision when they don't have to?
I think they'll rule Proposition 8 unconstitutional, but I think they'll keep the gay marriage bans in place in other states. It's exactly as you say, why make a legacy defining decision that could create some unintentional and negative blowback when the states are doing the right thing on their own?

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Old 05-09-2013, 03:32 PM   #883
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Minnesota House approves gay marriage bill after two-hour debate

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24% of the States now allow gay marriage.

25% if you include DC

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UPDATE: ILLINOIS GOVERNOR PROMISES TO SIGN MARRIAGE EQUALITY INTO LAW
http://www.advocate.com/politics/mar...riage-equality

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Awesome,congrats to Minnesota&Illinois!!

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Awesome,congrats to Minnesota&Illinois!!
Personally I am waiting for all states to make it legal that way we can move on to something more important like legalizing weed.

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Personally I am waiting for all states to make it legal that way we can move on to something more important like legalizing weed.
Weed is more important than equal human marriage rights?

IF your kidding..I don't find it funny
IF your serious..

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Weed is more important than equal human marriage rights?

IF your kidding..I don't find it funny
IF your serious..

Hey, if I had to choose, it'd be legalized weed.

Gay marriage is a great statement, but nobody's being thrown into the for-profit prison system because of gay marriage, and people with cancer or AIDS aren't risking prosecution for taking a really life-enhancing herb due to gay marriage.

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Old 05-12-2013, 12:45 AM   #891
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I would have to agree. There are hundreds of thousands lingering in prisons for something the president (and his predecessor) did at one point.

Probably also helps that I'm straight and have zero interest in marrying.

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hey, if we legalized weed, maybe the anti-gay marriage side will chill the **** out

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Makes sense. Maybe that should be the gay movement's new strategy.

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"I am totally against gay marriage!"

"Here, have a puff of this."

"...ahhh, what did the gays ever do to us? Let get married and junk."

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I would have to agree. There are hundreds of thousands lingering in prisons for something the president (and his predecessor) did at one point.
Throwing people's lives away in prison for smoking weed is ridiculous.

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Old 05-12-2013, 07:02 AM   #896
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hey, if we legalized weed, maybe the anti-gay marriage side will chill the **** out
Or at least they would now be too lazy and unmotivated to vote.

"Brother-cousin Ted, get dressed, we have to vote on Proposition 12!"

"Uhhh, what?"

"Ted, I'm telling you we have to go out and vote!"

"Vote on what?"

"Proposition 12!"

"Uhhh, yeah. So we're against it?"

"No! We're for it!"

"For what?"

"Proposition 12!!"

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I think the term has been thrown around loosely without any regard for its meaning.

It is defined as:
Homophobia – Intense hatred or fear of homosexuals.


For MOST it has nothing to do with fear or even hatred They simply DISAGREE with the lifestyle. I don’t agree with it either. You are going to find there are a lot of things in life where we all don’t agree.

I remember a long while back I had a girlfriend that was a hardcore vegan. I didn’t agree with her lifestyle and she didn’t agree with my view of it, but that didn’t stop us from having mutual respect for each others opinions. She didn’t expect either of us to compromise our beliefs in order to agree with the other. We agreed to disagree.

Keep in mind, I love meat…but I didn’t force her to eat at a BBQ place with me because I felt her lifestyle was wrong. In the same way she didn’t try to force me to her political events in order to get more rights for vegans and an assortment of other political motivations. She didn’t expect me to go there because she knew I didn’t agree. Same for her with my events.

I think I’ve used this theme enough now…sorry, I’m hungry.

On a side note...anyone who thinks that a majority of people who don't agree with homosexuality are homophobes than obviously by that logic it could be said that a majority of people who disagree with Christianity (or other religions) suffer from Zeusophobia.

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No, I'm definitely homophobic. As I would argue are most straight people. Well it's not like a fear of the color yellow, but it is something of a phobia (an irrational fear). I.e. homophobes (with rare exception) don't run away when they see two men holding hands.

I think most humans are homophobic, or at least a sizable chunk. I think it may be an evolutionary mechanism of some sort. A genetic disinclination. I'm surprised there hasn't been more scientific study into it.

What I did find fascinating was that apparently gay people have the same reaction to heterosexuality (or displays of it). It makes them uncomfortable. Although since they're taught from birth that it's the norm, it's probably subdued.

With the religions and their homophobic sentiment, I think it's a chicken egg situation. People aren't homophobic because of a Bible passage. It's the other way around.

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Minnesota Senate Passes Gay Marriage, Governor to Sign

I feel like I'm having an "out of body" experience right now. Holy cow, I could marry my bf now!! OMG!

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