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when you think about the tattoo thing, yes there could be a possible connection
I don't know. Gang tattoos and especially russian tattoos mean much more than a random star tattoo on a wrist.

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What's the red thing wrapped around Spidey's right hand in these pics?
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How is it pointless? He tried to steal it and he failed, as we can see. Oscorp comes to him because they're the ones he stole from and they offer him a deal for him to get out of Ravencroft. Don't see how it's out of place.
well why have him stealin it in first place if he is just gonna go ravencroft and get experimented on and whatever? surely they would just write him already in prison from the start without going through the action of him stealin it for nothing and it very little to do with anything

Just incase i wouldn't bank your hopes up it being a suit, but who knows

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well why have him stealin it in first place if he is just gonna go ravencroft and get experimented on and whatever? surely they would just write him already in prison from the start without going through the action of him stealin it for nothing and it very little to do with anything

Just incase i wouldn't bank your hopes up it being a suit, but who knows
Why would he be in prison and then suddenly steal it? Especially when this scene takes place early in the film and it looks like Ravencroft has a big role in the middle? I'm saying he'll try to steal and get caught because, well, it's clear that IS what happens and because it explains where Ravencroft comes in, why Oscorp would be involved, and why Rhino is involved in the plot beyond just being some random guy stealing stuff.

And him attempting to steal it at the beginning wouldn't be for nothing. It establishes who his character is (a russian mobster) and why he's involved with any of this.

EDIT: Looks like the barbed wire on Aleksei's head meant he was sentenced to life in prison without parole. So it IS possible that he was busted out of prison and did all of this for some type of job afterwards. That said, it's also obvious he gets caught by Spidey, and it explains why he would be sent to a criminal insanity institution like Ravencroft and not just prison if he already busted out once, so I think my theory is still in play either way.


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Why would he be in prison and then suddenly steal it? Especially when this scene takes place early in the film and it looks like Ravencroft has a big role in the middle? I'm saying he'll try to steal and get caught because, well, it's clear that IS what happens and because it explains where Ravencroft comes in, why Oscorp would be involved, and why Rhino is involved in the plot beyond just being some random guy stealing stuff.

And him attempting to steal it at the beginning wouldn't be for nothing. It establishes who his character is (a russian mobster) and why he's involved with any of this.
What I mean is they could have him be in prison from the start and then get experimented on then become rhino, they could even show him committing a crime like bank robbery before going to ravencroft

But for the crime to be stealing the thing they will later experiment on him seems a question of why was he trying to steal it in the first place

To be fair we don't know if he gets caught, the truck may be full of canisters of serum, and spidey tries to stop the truck, and as we can tell the guy isn't making it easy for spidey, crashing, explosions maybe, so he might end up getting away with some of the serum, and seeing as spidey is pictured holding one he may end up trying to find out what it is, there is a rumoured doc Connors cameo after all

Not saying that's what will happen but it's one of many possibilities that gives a point to attempting to steal it in first place, but who knows maybe it will be a suit and the serum has nothing to do with rhino, but at moment we have only one sided proof, its best not to bank any hopes

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EDIT: Looks like the barbed wire on Aleksei's head meant he was sentenced to life in prison without parole. So it IS possible that he was busted out of prison and did all of this for some type of job afterwards. That said, it's also obvious he gets caught by Spidey, and it explains why he would be sent to a criminal insanity institution like Ravencroft and not just prison if he already busted out once, so I think my theory is still in play either way.
You seem so sure spidey catches him again, I seen no proof of this, set pictures don't tell much

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But for the crime to be stealing the thing they will later experiment on him seems a question of why was he trying to steal it in the first place
Because he's a russian mobster, you see he has other russian mobsters with him. They were probably hired to steal it, as usual.

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Not saying that's what will happen but it's one of many possibilities that gives a point to attempting to steal it in first place, but who knows maybe it will be a suit and the serum has nothing to do with rhino, but at moment we have only one sided proof, its best not to bank any hopes
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Yeah, but as I called it, it's my theory and speculation. I'm obviously basing it off of some assumptions that I deem the most likely. And that includes him being caught by Spidey in that scene. If he's caught and sent to Ravencroft that explains a hell of a lot and also why he's involved.

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it's another damn serum in the oscorp truck? laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame...

i had really high hopes for a mech suit.. i had high hopes that oscorp would be established as more than just a cross species genetics company..

cross species rhino sucks.....

seems like best case scenario is that the serum doesn't alter appearance, but allows you to survive being grafted to a rhino suit of some sort.

wasted opportunity to not have rhino bust out the back of the armored car in the r.h.i.n.o suit. seriously, the best time to adapt something from the ultimate universe and they choose not too...

i'm pretty disappointed, especially considering the underwhelming lizard in the first movie and the underwhelming fight scenes to a lesser extent.

this scene could have quelled both these fears, but have seemed to have done the opposite.

this is the first time i've been worried about this film falling into the same trappings as the first.

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haha, so fickle. One moment you're loving everything the next it's all doom and gloom.

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it's another damn serum in the oscorp truck? laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame...

i had really high hopes for a mech suit.. i had high hopes that oscorp would be established as more than just a cross species genetics company..

cross species rhino sucks.....

seems like best case scenario is that the serum doesn't alter appearance, but allows you to survive being grafted to a rhino suit of some sort.

wasted opportunity to not have rhino bust out the back of the armored car in the r.h.i.n.o suit. seriously, the best time to adapt something from the ultimate universe and they choose not too...

i'm pretty disappointed, especially considering the underwhelming lizard in the first movie and the underwhelming fight scenes to a lesser extent.

this scene could have quelled both these fears, but have seemed to have done the opposite.

this is the first time i've been worried about this film falling into the same trappings as the first.
I really wanted to see the same thing, I had been talking to a friend just earlier today about it being a cool way to go with the scene and they agreed.

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haha, so fickle. One moment you're loving everything the next it's all doom and gloom.
not really, i've said multiple times how i don't want cross species rhino and think r.h.i.n.o. is the way to go seeing as paul giamatti isn't 7 foot tall and it seems like the only way to have him the appropriate size without making him a lame cross species freak.

i didn't really like the first movie, yet i've been as optimistic as possible for months now in regards to this new one. so yeah, when i see evidence that they aren't taking enough risks and sticking too close to things i didn't like about the first movie, i get concerned.

i have by no means dismissed the movie altogether. it's just rhino, which i have acknowledged may end up as 616, even though it seems relatively unlikely.

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I gotta say that I'm very surprised. Giamatti looks like a complete thug. I was originally afraid that he may have been miscast for the part.

Webb has once again exceeded my expectations with this film. This is coming from someone who is a fan of the first film and defended it left and right. And even I am not expecting the stuff that I have been seeing so far.

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it's another damn serum in the oscorp truck? laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame...

i had really high hopes for a mech suit.. i had high hopes that oscorp would be established as more than just a cross species genetics company..

cross species rhino sucks.....

seems like best case scenario is that the serum doesn't alter appearance, but allows you to survive being grafted to a rhino suit of some sort.

wasted opportunity to not have rhino bust out the back of the armored car in the r.h.i.n.o suit. seriously, the best time to adapt something from the ultimate universe and they choose not too...

i'm pretty disappointed, especially considering the underwhelming lizard in the first movie and the underwhelming fight scenes to a lesser extent.

this scene could have quelled both these fears, but have seemed to have done the opposite.

this is the first time i've been worried about this film falling into the same trappings as the first.
I don't understand how you ever fully expected a full, 8 foot Rhino suit to be in the back of that and Aleskei would have been able to put it on while driving a semi. -_-

We can still see a suit. In the comics the Rhino is a combination of physical enhancements and a grafter suit.

Your idea also make Rhino sort of a throwaway villain since his human side would have been seen for all of like 5 minutes. They probably didn't want to do that.

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it's another damn serum in the oscorp truck? laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame...

i had really high hopes for a mech suit.. i had high hopes that oscorp would be established as more than just a cross species genetics company..

cross species rhino sucks.....

seems like best case scenario is that the serum doesn't alter appearance, but allows you to survive being grafted to a rhino suit of some sort.

wasted opportunity to not have rhino bust out the back of the armored car in the r.h.i.n.o suit. seriously, the best time to adapt something from the ultimate universe and they choose not too...

i'm pretty disappointed, especially considering the underwhelming lizard in the first movie and the underwhelming fight scenes to a lesser extent.

this scene could have quelled both these fears, but have seemed to have done the opposite.

this is the first time i've been worried about this film falling into the same trappings as the first.
Is it confirmed that Rhino will be a cross-species character or Electro? I mean I read somewhere on here that Electro gets his powers from electric eels yet there appears to be nothing fishy about him. What if the serum is just to give Aleksei super-strength and speed, and like people have been saying "Rhino" has been a nickname he's always stuck with, and so he decides to don a suit whether it's mechanical or rubber? Then everyone goes home happy. To me, if it is the cross-species scenario, as long as Paul's face can be seen when his skin ultimately changes into that of a rhino's hide, I'd be happy, but if he turns into a giant rhino... well....

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I don't understand how you ever fully expected a full, 8 foot Rhino suit to be in the back of that and Aleskei would have been able to put it on while driving a semi. -_-

We can still see a suit. In the comics the Rhino is a combination of physical enhancements and a grafter suit.
i didn't know he'd be driving it the whole time, obviously. he can't be in two places at once. i had hoped that the russian guys shooting out the back of the car were providing cover for him to suit up.

when i saw that he then drives away, it killed that theory, but it didn't kill the possibility that the suit was in the armored car.

today, i find out it is an orange (green is sooo 2012) serum which pretty much confirms that there is no r.h.i.n.o suit.

as for size, i don't know the square footage of an armored car, but i'd imagine a deconstructed rhino suit to be able to fit. not the size, but the way you use it kind of thing.

also yep, i said that 616 rhino is still a possibility.

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i didn't know he'd be driving it the whole time, obviously. he can't be in two places at once. i had hoped that the russian guys shooting out the back of the car were providing cover for him to suit up.

when i saw that he then drives away, it killed that theory, but it didn't kill the possibility that the suit was in the armored car.

today, i find out it is an orange (green is sooo 2012) serum which pretty much confirms that there is no r.h.i.n.o suit.

as for size, i don't know the square footage of an armored car, but i'd imagine a deconstructed rhino suit to be able to fit. not the size, but the way you use it kind of thing.

also yep, i said that 616 rhino is still a possibility.
But I'm saying, there CAN still be a R.H.I.N.O. suit. They can just make the grafted suit they put on him a mechanical one like from the Ultimate comics.

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Is it confirmed that Rhino will be a cross-species character or Electro? I mean I read somewhere on here that Electro gets his powers from electric eels yet there appears to be nothing fishy about him. What if the serum is just to give Aleksei super-strength and speed, and like people have been saying "Rhino" has been a nickname he's always stuck with, and so he decides to don a suit whether it's mechanical or rubber? Then everyone goes home happy. To me, if it is the cross-species scenario, as long as Paul's face can be seen when his skin ultimately changes into that of a rhino's hide, I'd be happy, but if he turns into a giant rhino... well....
well yeah, i'm just worried given the precedent set in the first movie that this series of films is all about cross species genetic and that rhino will be more like what he was in the video game (terrible) than his ultimate or 616 incarnation.

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But I'm saying, there CAN still be a R.H.I.N.O. suit. They can just make the grafted suit they put on him a mechanical one like from the Ultimate comics.
well anything is possible right now, i'm just going on what seems more likely. i hope you're right but maybe it is time for me to stop being so optimistic and start expecting some creative decisions that i disagree with.

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I gotta say that I'm very surprised. Giamatti looks like a complete thug. I was originally afraid that he may have been miscast for the part.
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