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i'd leave Darren Agonistes Cross out of it. instead, Crossfire would be a freelance subversive agent/terminated C.I.A operative. given his comic book origin, they could tie him to Lang through rikers island penitentiary. Cross got his start by using behavior modification technology (that's what his mechanical eye does) on inmates. maybe Scott was one of the people he kept track of, in case A.I.M needed a fall guy for something. Cross would be the pretend head of C.T.E; while he actually answers to the Board (actually a triumvirate of A.I.M. scientists). George Tarleton (Killian's replacement), Monica Rappaccini (biotoxin expert & former terrorist), and Elias Starr (who kills Pym's first wife in the opening flashback) who i have in mind. are Pym could still be the focus character since A.I.M would want his research (after Pym rejects their offer of recruitment). and none of this gets in the way of Wright's To Steal an Ant-Man story. it's just shortened so that the main action takes place after the theft. Jan's still there in some form (and to later kick Rappaccini's @##). they can just leave it hanging at the end with Hank and Jan viable in case someone other than Wright wants to continue the story. |
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I would like to see A.I.M as the villains but I'm not sure they will show up.
If A.I.M do show up again post-Iron Man 3 I hope they are closer to the comic counterpart. I like the idea of making Elias Starr (Egghead) a A.I.M member and possibly having the organisation involved in Janet's father and Pym's wife's death.
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i think their target acquisition would be Pym's artificial intelligence work. this work would later be utilized by S.H.I.E.L.D to make life model decoys. A.I.M was more in it for expendable terrorists and infiltrating government. |
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I'm hoping that Ultron shows up in The Avengers 2 and then we see Pym create him in Ant-Man after the Avengers 2
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I would prefer it to be he creates him in Ant Man and Ultron appears in A3.
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Definitely. We need to see Hank before we see Ultron. There's no emotional connection unless we do.
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I think Thanos is being saved for A3
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creating and being the one to destroy Ultron seems like an attractive/emotional blaze of glory for the character. motivation: Tony forsees a day when he and his intelligence won't be around to aid the Avengers. his control freak nature compels him to create some kind of backup Iron Man. his creation comes to see him as its father. and it fits because we haven't seen Tony's mother in the movies. it's always his dad. he never got to say goodbye to his emotionally distant father. Ultron's motivation could easily be wanting to please his father but being so screwed up in the "head" that taking over the world is how it goes about it. mind you, i think this would suck. Pym should get his chance. but i think they've made it difficult for him. they've stepped on his story a bit. Banner's the tragic pacifist scientist w/ emotional issues. Stark's the eccentric genius with daddy issues and, in the last one, PTSD. they even replaced Jarvis with an artificial intelligence. what have they left Hank? |
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What if Hank starts out as an AIM scientist?
As part of Extremis, AIM was conducting brain research, and even has the capability to perform real-time scans of someone's brain. In addition, AIM was contracted for tweaking War Machine into Iron Patriot, so they must have a capable robotics division with access to elements of Stark's design. Pym could attempt to merge the two technologies by uploading a scan of his brain into a prototype robotic body built from studying War Machine. Then things go horribly wrong, and he defects to SHIELD in an attempt to redeem himself. The only things missing are the ants (and the ability to shrink)... |
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Hank could always make Ultron out of a jealous attempt to steal some of the glory away from Tony Stark. Then, bam! Everything goes wrong, because Hank Pym *isn't Tony Stark*.
But then, I am 100% fine with having Pym screw up epically, because that is what he does best. |
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Screw Tony having a major part in the creation of Ultron. Or any part as far as I'm concerned. Hank is so far above Tony genius-wise. Doctorate in Physics! Tony is a machine, engineering guy or whatever. Hank does inter-dimensional particle transference! Developed a method to communicate with another species!
Involving Tony too much in Ultrons creation decreases the whole father/son, DR. Frankenstien/Frankenstien, Eodipus thing you get with Hank and Ultron. And what of the extended 'family'? You have to keep Hank as the patriarch of the 'Family' ; Son/Ultron, Grandson/Vision, Nephew-in-law by marriage of brain patterns and synthetic brain/Wonder Man, Great grandad of sorts/ the original Human Torch, Daughter-in law/Jocasta,.....that whole groovy bit! |
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^Amen
Let's remember that before the movies Iron-Man was a C list character. He doesn't need any more creds. Let Hank have his own glory and reap the benefits of his own rich comics history. No need to tack on an already established character *just because*
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Iron Man already has his own sentient armor story.
http://marvel.wikia.com/Iron_Man_(Sentient_Armor) Leave Pym to create Ultron and have Ulton upload versions of itself into Tony's armor like in the comics. I think it would be cool Ultron took over a number of Tony's armors and attacked the Avengers.
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actually, he was part of the Big 3 (Captain America, Thor, and Iron Man). if he's C-list, i don't even want to know what Pym was considered to be.
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I'm not claiming Pym is as popular as Stark was before the movies or that he will get to Iron Man status after being in his own movie. My point is that if you give a character his own time to shine, without being obscured by another who already has the limelight, then that character will grow in popularity. Another, perhaps more appropriate example, is Blade. He was even more obscure to the GA than even Pym, yet his solo movie was successful enough to usher 2 sequels and revitalize the CB movie industry.
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Though it is disappointing that we may have to way until A3 to see the Pyms join. |
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I'd rather him join in in A3 and get a lot of screen time than be in A2 and just be pushed aside.
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Iron Man was a B-Lister before his movie came out.
I don't think a characters comic popularity matters. You can make a good successful movie out of less popular comic characters if you find a take and approach that will appeal to general audiences.
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The Sentient Iron Man armor is returning in Hank Pym lead Avengers A.I
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There IS plenty of ways they can do their relationship with Ultron being introduced first. Just because Ultron is introduced first, doesn't mean pym created him
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Part of the movie was rumored to take place in the 1960s not the 1980s unless they have said it does lately and I've not heard about it. I'm not sure if it that remains with the script changes setting things more closesly in the marvel universe
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pym's part took place in the 60s. lang's part took place in the 80s.
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I wouldn't mind seeing a superhero movie set in the 80s (not counting wolverine origins). I would prefer if Ant-Man just took place in the modern days.
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