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For me complete mastery means that you sound like a native. It helps being a spy a lot as well when you need to take on different identities.
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Anyone who has "complete mastery" over a language never does that, even if they sound like a native when they're speaking it. Natasha sounds as if she's been so subsumed into this "American" identity that she no longer seems Russian, and even if she were to go undercover as a different nationality, she might still slip back into American as if it were her default setting.
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Many, many spies have completely mastered a foreign accent.
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When you learn a language, the aim is to be understood, and to sound as much as a native as possible, this includes mastering the accent. It makes no sense to be able to speak with a western accent, but choose not to.
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Of course it makes sense. Hugh Laurie can speak in an American accent. He chooses not to when he's not playing House, because it's not his real accent. Same with the likes of Andrew Garfield or Henry Cavill, or conversely, Alexis Denisof and James Marsters who can sound like native Brits.
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When I had French evening classes recently, my teacher spent a lot of time trying to get me to lose my strong English language, because I am harder to understand to the French with a strong English accent. The more French my accent, the better I was speaking French. |
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Me returning to a default would be actually speaking Swedish, not speaking English worse than I normally do. For Natasha it's even more normal for her to speak with an American accent since if you move away and live in an English speaking country you will start to adapt that accent, especially as a non-native speaker. That of course goes for all languages when you move to a native-speaking region. |
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^Great post.
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But if you're going to blend in as a super spy, you would want to be fully convincing as whoever you're supposed to be. As Natalie Rushman, she had to be completely American, no accent but I think she finds in the US, it's probably easier to blend in on a regular basis, and be forgettable, to have no accent.
I think of it similar to John Barrowman. When his family moved to the US, he lost his Scottish accent to blend in. Now he only talks with an accent among family. It can be argued that she should have had an accent in the interrogation scene though. Katie McGrath would probably be too obvious. I totally approve of Kaya Scodelario. How about Meghan Ory, Jillian Morgese or Gugu Mbatha-Raw? |
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So, how should Wanda's powers be handled? Bearing in mind that there won't be a Dr Strange movie prior to it, but there will be one after most likely. . . ambiguous energy manipulation? Probability manipulation, with causing unlikely events? Something else?
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They can't make her too powerful or it will kill the drama.
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I would say its not quite "powerful" that is the problem so much as "undefined." If she can do basically anything, that breaks the plot more than if she can trade blasts with Iron Man, because she becomes a walking deus ex machina.
Of course, part of the problem is that in the comics, that's often exactly what she is. . . |
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Has Amy Acker been suggested for Wanda? I think she has the right look and Josh likes her...
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Never happen. i like her too, but they'll either cast an established movie star or an up and coming one. shes neither. plus it looks like they're going younger with the Maximoff's. hope to see her on Agents of SHIELD though.
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I just heard the Saoirse Ronan rumors. Yes. For the love of Zod yes.
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I just read that. Make it happen. For all that is glorious, make it happen.
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Do eet!
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This is kind of funny to me. Not so long along ago I was thinking that if First Class had a sequel (not DOFP) and Polaris were in it Ronan would be the best choice.
But it will be awesome if her as Scarlet Witch happens. |
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Some have said Ronan's blonde hair would be a problem. She just spent a long while with dark red hair for a film.
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Wigs? Hair dyes? Get out of here with your futuristic science fiction gadgets!
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It is a movie from the 23rd century.
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