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Old 05-21-2013, 03:52 PM   #576
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With the Ronan rumor in GotG, I'm starting to wonder if they're going to have the Kree going after Wakanda's Vibranium in A2. That would lay the groundwork for getting Ms. Marvel in the mix eventually. Wanda and Pietro could be AIM agents (with their powers unlocked by the brain slot) trying to steal the vibranium as well.

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When did the Kree go after Wakanda's Vibranium?

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If the rumour turns out to be true, I understand the reason for BP's inclusion...but, will be disappointed/irritated that Ant-Man will not have a presence in the film.

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He's getting an entire movie. :/

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Yes, but it would be nice to see him in an Avengers film, considering he was one of the founding members.

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This movie sounds freaking packed. I hope Joss can juggle everything

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SW/QS as villains and Black Panther being T'Chaka and summoning the Avengers to Wakanda sounds right.

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SW/QS as villains and Black Panther being T'Chaka and summoning the Avengers to Wakanda sounds right.
But even then you've got (potential) cosmic stuff, all the effects from TWS (Fury being on the run, Pierce) and whatever else they bring in.

And if the villains are the MoE.

And if the Guardians pop up.

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When did the Kree go after Wakanda's Vibranium?
They didn't that I know of. No one said every movie had to be based on a specific arc. Weren't the Kree interested in our resources at one point? I can't remember.

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They didn't that I know of. No one said every movie had to be based on a specific arc. Weren't the Kree interested in our resources at one point? I can't remember.
In the Ultimate Avengers 2 cartoon, it's the Chitauri going after the vibranium in Wakanda and T'Challa calls on the Avengers. Since the first movie was kinda influenced by UA, I wonder if it'll be the same for the second.

Possibly swapping Chitauri for Kree and Ant-Man/Wasp for the Maximoff's

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AIM hires SW and QS as "bounty hunters" and send them to Wakanda to obtain Vibranium.
T'Chaka is killed.
In his dying words, he tells T'Challa about Nick Fury.
T'Challa seeks out Fury's help, SHIELD sends Captain America, Black Widow and Hawkeye to stop the threat and capture SW and QS.
They succeed, interrogate the twins and discover who hired them, and the larger plan AIM has in mind.... (Though of course, that's not THE big plan, as they are also being used by HYDRA, which SW and QS don't know about).

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AIM hires SW and QS as "bounty hunters" and send them to Wakanda to obtain Vibranium.
T'Chaka is killed.
In his dying words, he tells T'Challa about Nick Fury.
T'Challa seeks out Fury's help, SHIELD sends Captain America, Black Widow and Hawkeye to stop the threat and capture SW and QS.
They succeed, interrogate the twins and discover who hired them, and the larger plan AIM has in mind.... (Though of course, that's not THE big plan, as they are also being used by HYDRA, which SW and QS don't know about).
I don't know if i wan't to see T'Chaka die in an Avengers film. That event is central to the BP mythos and needs to be in a solo BP movie. Thats like saying you would have Thomas Wayne die in a Justice League movie.

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I don't know if i wan't to see T'Chaka die in an Avengers film. That event is central to the BP mythos and needs to be in a solo BP movie. Thats like saying you would have Thomas Wayne die in a Justice League movie.
I can understand that from the idea that T'Chaka's death is very important to the T'Challa story. But Batman is a much more iconic character on a mainstream level than Black Panther. What if Black Panther doesn't get his own movie?

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I can understand that from the idea that T'Chaka's death is very important to the T'Challa story. But Batman is a much more iconic character on a mainstream level than Black Panther. What if Black Panther doesn't get his own movie?
I'm all for introducing T'Challa in Avengers 2, but i just feel like u have to leave T'Chaka's death out of it. Its just too important to the BP story regardless of his mainstream status. This movie will have too much going on, and the death will have to be glossed over. I'll understand if they do it but i think its a bad idea.

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The death could occur offscreen/before the start of the film and be expanded on in a solo film.

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I don't know if i wan't to see T'Chaka die in an Avengers film. That event is central to the BP mythos and needs to be in a solo BP movie. Thats like saying you would have Thomas Wayne die in a Justice League movie.
Plus T'Chaka needs to die by the hand of Klaw - that's the set up for the BP first and best villain,...

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Don't want to get my hopes up but things do seem to be pointing toward a Panther inclusion. I said after Avengers that I wanted BP and a female superhero, preferably Carol or Wanda, in the sequel, getting both would be

They could just not acknowledge T'Chaka in this movie, and save that for a solo, with T'Challa as BP from minute 1. I think having whoever the film's villain is kill off T'Chaka in the film's opening would work too.

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What if maybe in A2 we see an older (40s-50s) T'Chaka summon the Avengers to help and he has a teenage son that will be around 18-20 when he could get his own movie. I wouldn't mind that

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I would. T'Challa is the Black Panther I want to see, couldn't care less about T'Chaka. A whole movie of T'Chaka as BP means one less movie with T'Challa as BP

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If Black panther is in it i will be very very happy. As long as its T'Challa. Wouldnt even mind if T'Chaka died in A2. That would take up time though.

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Yes, but it would be nice to see him in an Avengers film, considering he was one of the founding members.
so was Janet.

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Avengers 2 should have a totally new roster consisting of Dr. Druid, Triathlon, Silverclaw, Two Gun Kid and The Forgotten One.

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If T'Challa showed up in TA2 I could see them showing T'Chaka get killed in the prologue of the movie, kicking off the plot in whatever way (most likely setting up the threat).

If BP is in this, there's a helluva lotta characters to balance. I figure we'll see SHIELD fade into the background this go around, which I'd prefer.

Also, if they do end up battling MoE, who would everyone here like to see on the roster?


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I think having whoever the film's villain is kill off T'Chaka in the film's opening would work too.
Makes sense, would help to skip yet another time-wasting origin film, immediately involves T'Challa and the death of the King of Wakanda would be a major world event and plot point in itself.

I think BP is a guy who's best introduced first, then gets a movie if he proves popular.

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