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View Poll Results: When will the fans turn on TDK Trilogy in Mass? | |||
When a reboot or JL film is announced |
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32 | 39.51% |
When we get a poster/stills of the reboot/JL film |
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11 | 13.58% |
The new Trailer(s) |
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20 | 24.69% |
Week of Release |
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18 | 22.22% |
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#676 | |
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Okay, so then it's understandable to say it shouldn't matter what the GA thinks about TDK when the GA likes Bayformers as well. |
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I would've responded to anyone, your post just happened to proceed mine's first. And why not? Just because it is not directed at anyone does that not mean you can't discuss it?
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Yup
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![]() And Anno, when we are talking about the GA, that does not boil down to just your friends. The general audience is much larger than that, which I am sure (and hope) that you are aware of. Quote:
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Did Nolan really say he wanted TDKR to be his most realistic film? I buy the ambitious part.
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He did in terms of practical effects. It goes hand-in-hand with the ambitious part.
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And he achieved it. The practical effects in this film is a wonder to behold. Shame about the script though.
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Agreed. I wish he would have focussed less on having the scope of Lawrence of Arabia, which Nolan likened it to, and had focussed on having a story as good as Lawrence of Arabia. I'm personally less wow'd by spectacle then I am by intriguing dialogue or plot.
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But you mentioned TDK needs to be viewed on its own merits...I agree, one shouldn't bring up the GA for that film anyways and look at the merits of TDK...but the same thing for TDKR. A film that is given reviews that fits it snuggly in between BB and TDK; that, imo, is a pretty good place to be situated in. While it may not be in the lightning in a bottle that was TDK, it does have high praise for sure and I think a lot of people want to not believe that. Quote:
![]() Please read my own post in the last page as I was just stating my own opinion on why I bring up the GA. It wasn't as a "that's what people always do" kinda of thing. Man, sometimes things are blown way out of proportion. Quote:
He made realistic practical effects, but he's done this in all three of his films. And many times he had said he wanted TDKR to be his most ambitious film, and imo, he did succeed. In most of the praiseworthy reviews for the film, the word 'ambitious' is brought up numerous times. |
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![]() Yes, it does work both ways. There are many people that would source the GA's opinion of TDK as evidence for TDK being objectively great and then use the Bayformers argument when the GA has a different opinion than theirs. I do admit that I was one of those people when I was younger until I grew up and realized that that argument is complete BS from start to finish regardless of whether or not a movie is bad. However, that is precisely what Excelsior and I have stated. Also, if you think about it, the GA isn't any smarter for loving TDK. What's the main reason for why they love Bayformers? "ZOMFG! Giant robots are fighting and it's so cool!". What's the main reason for why they love TDK? Because they love the themes, messages, and all that good stuff? For some, that is precisely the case (i.e. people like us and the critics, as well as some other moviegoers) but for a huge chunk of people that went to see it in theatres just to see Batman kicking butt, their main reason for liking the movie is "ZOMFG! Batman is so cool at fighting and he throws cool batarangs!" Not that there is anything wrong with liking a movie for that reason alone. Quote:
That is at least true about the parts of the film that do indeed show that. Like I said before, around half of the film or even more doesn't feel like Nolan's most ambitious film to me, at least not from a storytelling point of view. |
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The next Batman reboot will be met with an extreme amount of resistance and derision, with people stating that it will never live up to Nolan's trilogy.
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They will turn on these films and say it's not the real batman. I can't see it be as bad as Rami as despite what many posters here say, Nolan hasn't made a T*** film like SM3...
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Just a thread to rip on Nolan. People already hate Snyder and hasn't even shown a pic of his Batman. That tells you a lot about the fan community alone.
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Exactly.
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How much faith would you have in a Batman film directed by Uwe Boll? You can't disregard the talent or track record of a film crew just because the subject matter is to your liking. |
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but what if you think his track record has been pretty damn good for the most part?
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This isn't to say that an upcoming film should be dismissed due to who is involved, but in the same way some fans are encouraged to be optimistic about a particular project for whatever reason, others can be wary for reasons of their own. I know that conventional 'wisdom' suggests that the more support these movies have the better, but I don't believe it's wise to unconditionally accept whatever the genre produces. That's the point at which we accept mediocrity, and I'd rather see the genre die than have it overwhelmed with sub-standard material. To address the matter at hand, I'll be wary of anything Zack Snyder produces until he proves to me that he can consistently make good films. Up to now, only one of his films were superlative, with the rest ranging from awful to decent. Considering the budget, characters, and responsibility he's been given, that doesn't quite cut it for me. |
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Pretty much, it's gonna be fun (well not really fun) seeing people on here lose sleep and their sh** over a simple movie.
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Zack Snyder as a Batman director ??
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Snyder > Nolan anyway
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Not even close. Substance wins over style every time.
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Lol
Couldn't have said it better |
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