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Old 05-25-2013, 10:07 AM   #651
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And this is why psrt of the story makes no sense.
Why? It would seem to indicate, no matter who is in who's head/body, there is still some residual personality of whoever's body it it.

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Old 05-25-2013, 01:49 PM   #652
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^^because your mind resides in your brain, and the brain is a physical part of the body. So your mind would be affected somewhat by what physically happens to the brain. Seratonin and all that jazz.

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But it's NOT influencing Otto.
It never was, only "Ghost Peter" was...

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The mind can also be considered the body's computer. It could be that Peter never switched minds with Ock. Maybe Pete's mind was reprogrammed to think he is Ock. This could solve and explain a couple of things. One it makes it easier to bring Pete back since he never really died. He could eventually regain his mind back. It would also explain why Ock is suddenly a winner. The dude hasn't followed through on a plot or scheme since his introduction and now he consistently comes up aces. He doesn't seem to miss his arms either. This could be Slott showing the Marvel u just how smart Parker really is. He has done amazing things. Some terrible things, too. And the consequences of both great and terrible could make for some interesting stories once Peter returns.

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The mind can also be considered the body's computer. It could be that Peter never switched minds with Ock. Maybe Pete's mind was reprogrammed to think he is Ock. This could solve and explain a couple of things. One it makes it easier to bring Pete back since he never really died. He could eventually regain his mind back. It would also explain why Ock is suddenly a winner. The dude hasn't followed through on a plot or scheme since his introduction and now he consistently comes up aces. He doesn't seem to miss his arms either. This could be Slott showing the Marvel u just how smart Parker really is. He has done amazing things. Some terrible things, too. And the consequences of both great and terrible could make for some interesting stories once Peter returns.
They won't do this ONLY because Otto killed Massacre.

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Yeah you might be right. Although Pete wouldn't have been in his right mind when he did it. Like I said the repercussions could be interesting. The real reason it won't play out that way is because my theories are never right!

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I just read the latest issue... it was difficult to avoid the spoilers in this thread...lol... it was GREAT!!!


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But it's NOT influencing Otto.
It never was, only "Ghost Peter" was...
I was more referring to the conversation about possibly Peter's mind being in Goblins body, and how that might be making Peter's mind a little psycho because the Goblin formula made him insane...

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But it's NOT influencing Otto.
It never was, only "Ghost Peter" was...
But I thought I saw that Slott confirmed that it was not Ghost Pete, but a remnant of Pete's memories. Perhaps this remnant remains in other cases, such as Pete's actions when he was in Ock's dying body.

And yes, this gets confusing...

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that's why I used quotation marks.
its just easier to call him Ghost Pete instead of Memory Fragment with Sentience Pete

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Well, the Memory Fragment is what I mean might have influenced Pete's actions while in Ock's dieing body.

The "Real Ghost Pete" I would suspect is hidden away in the "Soul Molecule." Perhaps it was in the golden Octobot. I forgot now. Did the Goblin "find" the octobot and broke into it? Perhaps something to stillanerd's theory...

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I'm digging the idea of Peter in Norman's body...


OMG... Bad thought just now....
Now he can go and have sex with Gwen...again...

Or maybe it was a Time-Traveled Pete's mind in Norman's body that originally had sex with Gwen...

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OMG... Bad thought just now....
Now he can go and have sex with Gwen...again...

Or maybe it was a Time-Traveled Pete's mind in Norman's body that originally had sex with Gwen...
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Well, Peter and Gwen never had the "sex"... so if he has Norman's memories, he can at least now know what it was like... though I'm sure similarly, it might be like him having Otto's memories of Otto's "moments" with Aunt May...



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Well, Peter and Gwen never had the "sex"... so if he has Norman's memories, he can at least now know what it was like... though I'm sure similarly, it might be like him having Otto's memories of Otto's "moments" with Aunt May...


wow, even though those "'moments' never happened between Otto and May, I'm trying to get some not-too-pretty images out of my mind right now...

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There's a few images that might cause me to drink in an effort to scrub my brain clean. lol

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I just thought of another possible explanation for my Peter in Norman Osborn's body theory

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What if Julia Carpenter, in a desperate attempt to save Peter from Doc Ock's mind swap, used her psychic powers to pilot Norman Osborn's body like a remote control toy? But of course wound up being too late. And she had to wait until Peter died because she couldn't remove his mind/soul once it was attached to Doc Ock's body. So when Peter and Doc Ock were fighting in Amazing Spider-Man #700, Norman was amongst the crowd, hidden via Julia's psychic powers and then, right when Peter died, that allowed her to pulled Peter's soul/astral form into Norman.

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I think at this point there are so many different avenues they can go down. There's way too many variables in the mix and tons of unanswered questions/dangling plot-lines.

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Hey guys, was at Midtown comics today and contemplated the commencement of the first issues of Superior Spidey.

I became apprehensive and discarded them for classic Amazing issues because I'm not sure if it is worth it. Could ya guys help a fan out? Is it worth reading? Because...frankly, although I'm not opposed to the idea it is weird to know Peter is actually Doc Ock now.

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I think it's great and I've really enjoyed every issue so far. I'd definitely pick it up if I were you.

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Thanks man! I will next time I'm in Midtown.

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It's been a really fun and awesome book thus far...


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I gotta admit, even an old school hardcore hardass like me has been impressed... and I haven't felt this way about the character for YEARS now...

but being old school, I STILL want Pete to return... and you can bet the farm that SOMETIME down the road, he WILL reclaim his rightful position...

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Superior Spider-Man has been a great jumping on point for me. I've read Peter's entire run in Ultimate Spider-Man and I was ready to jump aboard the 616 universe. So thanks to Marvel Now, that was made possible.

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