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Old 06-07-2013, 09:27 PM   #26
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He can definitely play douche, so I guess it works

Plus looking at those pics, he can pass as Ronan's brother

Ronan the Accuser?!? **** no. His skin ain't even blue. Does he even lift?

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You think there's space if they include Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch?
Sounds very much like Joss is confirming that Wanda & Pietro are baddies in this movie, as most of us thought. They won't get their Avenger card until the end, or TA3. TA2 might be about bringing in the brothas --- Falcon, War Machine, and Black Panther. And even BP isn't likely to be more than a cameo as an Avenger ally, imho, to be further developed in a Phase III movie before getting *his* full-time Avenger card. I'm thinking 8 *official* Avengers in this movie (Cap, Tony, Thor, Hulk, Widow, Hawkeye, Falcon, War Machine) with Panther, SW and QS in the on-deck circle for The Call in TA3, and Ant-Man and Wasp getting called up in Phase III as well. (By the time TA3 rolls around, there could be some rotation in the roster, too, so it won't be as crowded as it sounds.)

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Sounds very much like Joss is confirming that Wanda & Pietro are baddies in this movie, as most of us thought. They won't get their Avenger card until the end, or TA3. TA2 might be about bringing in the brothas --- Falcon, War Machine, and Black Panther. And even BP isn't likely to be more than a cameo as an Avenger ally, imho, to be further developed in a Phase III movie before getting *his* full-time Avenger card. I'm thinking 8 *official* Avengers in this movie (Cap, Tony, Thor, Hulk, Widow, Hawkeye, Falcon, War Machine) with Panther, SW and QS in the on-deck circle for The Call in TA3, and Ant-Man and Wasp getting called up in Phase III as well. (By the time TA3 rolls around, there could be some rotation in the roster, too, so it won't be as crowded as it sounds.)
Ah yeah, I keep forgetting that. Good point. In that case it does open it up a bit although I want to see them as heroes for a fair amount of time, even if not in TA2. SW especially.

Yeah BP I'd expect to get a good story arc when he's properly introduced. The others can drop in and their back story doesn't need as much time...& WM's has kind of been covered. Although this TA2 & TA3 plan could mean not seeing some big characters after 3 films.

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I guess I could live with him as QS. It would be pretty interesting with someone so young on Avengers.

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I guess I could live with him as QS. It would be pretty interesting with someone so young on Avengers.

Yeah, Johnson is 22, and Saoirse Ronan (top contender for Wanda) is 19; or 24 and 21, respectively, when TA2 comes out. Sounds like Wanda & Pietro will be portrayed pretty much as teenagers.

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They did meet the Avengers at a pretty early age too

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Their youth/immaturity could be used to create dramatic some tension/friction between them and the other Avengers.

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Yeah, Johnson is 22, and Saoirse Ronan (top contender for Wanda) is 19; or 24 and 21, respectively, when TA2 comes out. Sounds like Wanda & Pietro will be portrayed pretty much as teenagers.
Yeah the SHH report did say they were going for younger euro actors.

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They did meet the Avengers at a pretty early age too
They weren't much older than the original X-Men when they joined the team IIRC.

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Their youth/immaturity could be used to create dramatic some tension/friction between them and the other Avengers.
I don't think they'll necessarily be immature. I think their age will be used more as a device to set up their origin. If they're too old they'd have to explain what they were doing this whole time or something. It's easier to make them teenagers/early 20-somethings. I think the tension/friction will come from Quicksilver being an anti-heroesque anti-establishment newconservative douche.


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Let's hope they aren't in an incestuous relationship.

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Let's hope they aren't in an incestuous relationship.
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Hey incest is in right now. You can thank Game of Thrones

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Let's hope they aren't in an incestuous relationship.
I doubt that Marvel Studios or Disney would have the guts to do that. If they don't want to do a "demon in a bottle" story line with Tony then there's no way that they'll do a incest arc with Quicksilver and Wanda.

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You mean they have the decency not to do it. That just Mark Millar being Mark Millar.

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Wasn't the Wanda/Pietro relationship thanks to Loeb? Maybe I just blame him for things I don't like though.

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Can we get an Avengers 2 subforum now?

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You mean they have the decency not to do it. That just Mark Millar being Mark Millar.
Yep. Decency not lack of guts. Who wants to see that?

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Are we pinning thousands of weird and gross sibling fan fictions on Mark Millar now? At least he never came right out and described it, unlike however many creepy fans.

Also Loeb's deal was everyone went cannibal iirc, rather than incestuous.

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Are we pinning thousands of weird and gross sibling fan fictions on Mark Millar now? At least he never came right out and described it, unlike however many creepy fans.

Also Loeb's deal was everyone went cannibal iirc, rather than incestuous.
I distinctly recall seeing Wanda & Pietro sneaking off to screw in some bushes, much to Wolverine's disgust. It was in silhouette but it happened on the page and other characters talked about it. (I won't even post a link here.) You can scorn fan fiction all you want, but Marvel allowed that to happen in canon in one of its universes and it's something that's not going to just disappear from the record.

The incest will surely be discovered and discussed by the press as the film nears, just as a couple of reporters asked Whedon whether Hulk would be a cannibal before TA came out. It wouldn't surprise me if some "fan" brings it up at ComicCon. I'm not one for censorship, but I really believe that Disney should exercise greater creative control of the comics arm of the business to prevent objectionable stuff like Millar's "twincest" fantasies from making it into print.

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I distinctly recall seeing Wanda & Pietro sneaking off to screw in some bushes, much to Wolverine's disgust.
Was this the same Wolverine that was chasing around an underage Jean Grey?

Ah, Ultimate universe! Classy!

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Was this the same Wolverine that was chasing around an underage Jean Grey?

Ah, Ultimate universe! Classy!
At least Jean isn't Logan's sister.


The whole point of the Ultimate universe seemed to be to take all of Marvel's already dysfunctional characters and turn them into complete monsters. In the end it may have been more about mirroring the writer(s)'s warped psyche than anything else. As such, it's probably likelier that the twins will be snaking off into the bushes in Fox's movies than anywhere else since Millar is supposedly a consultant over there.

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There's some hi-res pics for Dark world in the Thor threads.
One is the movie poster with full cape in the wind!

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At least Jean isn't Logan's sister.


The whole point of the Ultimate universe seemed to be to take all of Marvel's already dysfunctional characters and turn them into complete monsters. In the end it may have been more about mirroring the writer(s)'s warped psyche than anything else. As such, it's probably likelier that the twins will be snaking off into the bushes in Fox's movies than anywhere else since Millar is supposedly a consultant over there.

The whole point of the Ultimate universe was shock value. They figured the only way to sell comic books in the 21st century was through shock and auggghh.

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Ultimate Universe isn't canon so none of it matters.

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