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I don't hate on Blake anymore, but I truly feel that he should have been written out, and the rest of his arc, besides becoming Batman 2.0, could have filtered down to Gordon. And with that you open up a lot more room for Talia to shine. |
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I have to admit, it would have been cool to see Gordon be the guy chalking the bat symbols.
Same time, Blake and Talia kind of go hand in hand for me as they're the two "legacy" characters in the film. |
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Yeah, they could have easily had both Blake and Gordon doing the chalk symbols.
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Haha, well that's a total of three of us then, kvz5.
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Would it be too "out there" to propose the idea that Nolan's Batman could indeed be part of WB's expanded DC universe where Bruce's Batman was the first ever hero(and that's why there was no mention of any other hero) and Darkseid makes his presence by killing Robin John Blake's Batman and a bored, out of his mind Bruce decides to return as Batman, but not solely because of guilt over Blake's death but because he's tired of a normal life? With that idea, I would hope Selina has become used to her new life, and I'd want her to be a mother to a girl named Helena as well, so that's something Bruce can return back to, but for now, he is Batman for the time being as well as joining the Justice League.
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I'm not gonna lie, if we could see Bale return as Batman in at least a WF film, alongside Cavill as Supes, I'd lose it. Continuity be damned.
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As well as, I think this would be a nice idea storytelling wise of Bruce Wayne having two different paths now because he has a life outside of Batman, but he's bored of the normal life as well as wanting to get vengeance over Blake's death. It's the next evolutionary step of a man who tried to move on. If this were to happen, I don't think there should even be another Batman film, at least for a while until WB reboots their DC expanded universe(as I'm sure Marvel Studios will do one day as well). Nolan's trilogy is complete, so move on to the next phase of Blake's Batman being killed and Bruce returns back to the game in dealing with Darkseid and then has a choice to stay with the JL or go back to Selina. And then for a Justice League 2, Joker could make his return in a fashioned way where Batman returns again(as there needs to be something important for Bruce to come back as Batman again). Last edited by Anno_Domini; 06-09-2013 at 08:33 PM. |
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Yeah, it'd be pretty easy to write Bale's Batman back into a DCU continuity. The only thing really preventing it from happening at this point is Nolan wanting his story to be left alone. We already know Bale would return if Nolan came to him with another story and I'm sure Snyder would relish the privilege of using such an iconic and revered version of the character. Goyer I'm not 100% sure about, but I could see him being into it too if he had the go-ahead from Nolan.
And seeing as it's being reported that (potential Man of Steel spoiler) the Wayne Enterprises logo shown in Man of Steel is in fact the Nolanverse one, they've already planted a seed in the off-chance that Nolan does change his mind down the road. I'm not expecting it to happen, and I've heard and understand all the reasons why it's most likely a bad idea. But if that was the direction everyone wanted to move in and they were committed to it, it could be done well and it would be gargantuan. |
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Goyer would easily get himself into the picture knowing he'll be working on something magnificent again that'll stray his name further away from "hits" like Blade: Trinity
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Well, look at that...Goyer was mentioned as supposedly signing a three-picture deal for the first Man of Steel film, its sequel and a Justice League film. Hahaha, I guess I'm right in the guy trying to make more good than bad films as of late
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He signed for a JL film? Aww. I have to say, I'm really disappointed. I kinda hope it falls through. I don't want to see another cinematic universe.
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So you just want solo films? I find that boring personally. Maybe if they just did a MOS trilogy then linked it to Batman (Bale or other) then that would be cool. But never wanting a Justice League movie is just not a realistic request. It's inevitable and it should happen at some point.
The next 10 years is the time to do it. Comic book movies are probably going into obscurity at some point in the mid 2020's. At the rate they're pushing them out now each year (Marvel and DC), ideas will run out. People will get sick of the genre and it will go on hiatus. Now is the time for any studio to do JL. Warner Brothers are just that lucky studio. And they need to do it right. Goyer & Snyder is the perfect step.
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My problem with it is being tied to one version of a character and their villains. In particular (since I'm most familiar with him), Batman. Having a gothic Batman in one era, a more grounded Batman in another and so on and so forth works best in my opinion. You can have different and unique interpretations of each character instead of having just one version. An expanded universe would limit what you can do with the character. You can't do a rough adaptation of The Dark Knight Returns, for example, because that would affect every other franchise. As I said, if they use an expanded universe for a decade or so, alright. That gives us new interpretations of the characters and differentiates it from what has come before. It gives us a new Batman and a new Superman and a new Green Lantern (presumably) and characters who haven't shown up yet like Wonder Woman, Flash and maybe Aquaman. That'd be great. Run that series from like 2015/2016 to 2025/2026 or so. This could work really well. It shows the audience that characters like Wonder Woman, Green Lantern and Flash can be awesome and they would be more open to seeing these reinterpretations after this series ended. |
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I'm not necessarily too hyped for a Justice League film either.
My first choice would be a World's Finest film, then Trinity with Wonder Woman...and as someone who's not a huge fan of any of the Flash or Green Lantern versions or Aquaman...I just never cared about a JL film or an expanded universe that leads to Justice League(although I have given an example of how I'd do an expanded universe...but that's mostly leading into a Trinity film with just the additional Martian Manhunter and Barry Allen and Jon Stewart are only introduced in Phase 2). At least with Avengers, I LOVE Captain America, Iron Man and Hulk. |
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I dig Barry's Flash quite a bit. Wonder Woman's great when done right. Sometimes I like Hal, sometimes I can care less. I feel the same about John Stewart. Aquaman I don't care about but he'll be needed as a character if say Darkseid wants to control or destroy every area on earth. Martian Manhunter is cool but I would limit him.
So yeah, I love the idea of a Justice League quite a bit. Especially since Snyder/Goyer are doing it. Im not a fan of the Avengers or their characters at all so DC/JL will always be "my" team. There's no need for a Trinity along with a World's Finest and Justice League. That's overkill. It's like Marvel did an Iron Man/Hulk movie then a film with those 2 + Captain America before getting to Avengers. It kills the momentum and the "wow" factor of seeing them all team up for the first time. Im a HUGE fan of a World's Finest idea but not Trinity. |
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No, no, no, I'm not saying I'd do Justice League if I could do World's Finest and Trinity instead. I'd do a WF and then Trinity. But since there will be a Justice League...I doubt we're even going to see a WF.
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If the reboot comes as soon as I hope, there's nothing else I hope happened in the series other than the three films, and events inferred/explained.
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guys and gals as much as i would like to see bales batman continue after the tdkr the truth is he really couldnt. i mean his body is just wrecked, he is in presumably his early 40s. i mean he wouldnt be anywhere close to where he needs to be for a wf or jl. he would just be a shell of his former self.
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But he really isn't, though. He chose at the end of TDKR to pass the mantle, but truth is, Bruce could have still continued as Batman. He was in the best shape he's been in for a while, he has the leg brace that, imo, he still had on when he returned to Gotham from the Pit and he defeated his most physical challenge yet.
Now, that being said, we definitely need to see the more "Batgod" Batman of the comics in dealing with aliens and being within a group such as the Justice League and Nolan's Batman was never that. A "Batgod" Batman would need to be one step ahead of his villains. A "Batgod" Batman would need to be able to develop a cure himself for Scarecrow's poison. A "Batgod" Batman would be doing research on a mysterious Joker character even when he doesn't have much evidence WHILE he's dealing with the mob. A "Batgod" Batman would do a background search of any of his employees to find out he or she is a member of a terrorist organization. And a "Batgod" Batman would deal with things himself and wouldn't need the help that he received from Lucius and Alfred so many times in Nolan's trilogy. Nolan wanted to present a hero that in a sense where it "takes a village" to build, but we should get a Batman that can handle things himself even if they bring in characters like Robin or Batgirl. |
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I wish the reveal scene went like this
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