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"S" shield, cool new power designed to kill powerless enemies. 7 6.93%
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Old 06-16-2013, 08:35 PM   #501
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The first picture I saw of him was a set picture from the scene where he was stealing the clothes.

My first thought was, "Helloooooo Superman!!"
Haha, yeah those were good days.

Also helped shut up alot of the 'he's wearing a padded suit' posters

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^ And yet nobody cares when action heroes steal motorcycles or a billionaire essentially takes one of the few things a homeless guy has, and then jokes about it later :P
And Superman is not just any action hero. He is not supposed to have the moral failings of the dude from Fast and Furious.

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Haha, yeah those were good days.

Also helped shut up alot of the 'he's wearing a padded suit' posters
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And Superman is not just any action hero. He is not supposed to have the moral failings of the dude from Fast and Furious.
That guy can't throw trucks either.

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And Superman is not just any action hero. He is not supposed to have the moral failings of the dude from Fast and Furious.

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Exactly. You can't win the "I didn't do what Clark Kent did!" argument when you lack the abillity to throw trucks in the first place.
Trust me, I CAN destroy property. Throwing a truck is not the only way to destroy property. I know that YOU can't think of any other way, since you are stuck on that detail...but I have unfortunately been victimized in the past by normal, non super-powered people who have destroyed my property.

Although...once again you are suggesting that because Clark CAN destroy...that he has the RIGHT to destroy. That is the very OPPOSITE of what the "real" Clark would support.

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And Superman is not just any action hero. He is not supposed to have the moral failings of the dude from Fast and Furious.
Really?

The trucker deserved what happened to him and he obviously felt guilty about stealing those clothes. You're focusing less on context and more on the actions themselves.

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But what about the poor insurance companies that have to pay for it!?!?!?

Just pretend it was a LexCorp truck and the money came out of Luthor's pocket.
They'll make their money back when their raise their premiums and take it out on the next guy

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heretic is living in the comic book fantasy world clark is perfect and can do no wrong mr boy scout

the modern superman in the comics isn't even like that

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Old 06-16-2013, 08:46 PM   #510
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heretic is living in the comic book fantasy world clark is perfect and can do no wrong mr boy scout

the modern superman in the comics isn't even like that
How would we all feel if Clark slashed that guy's tires though?

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Hell Clark on Smallville did basically the same truck thing to his enemy in high school in the first episode.

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Trust me, I CAN destroy property. Throwing a truck is not the only way to destroy property. I know that YOU can't think of any other way, since you are stuck on that detail...but I have unfortunately been victimized in the past by normal, non super-powered people who have destroyed my property.

Although...once again you are suggesting that because Clark CAN destroy...that he has the RIGHT to destroy. That is the very OPPOSITE of what the "real" Clark would support.
I'm not stuck on that detail. You've never been in the same position as Clark Kent because you're not a super-powered alien who's spent a lifetime hiding his unfathomable strength.

And again, you're still forgetting that this is a pre-Superman Clark Kent whose moral center based on being Superman (in other words, knowing who he was and what his purpose was to be), so quit acting so betrayed.

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How would we all feel if Clark slashed that guy's tires though?
I'd have wondered why he didn't just melt them.

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I'm not stuck on that detail. You've never been in the same position as Clark Kent because you're not a super-powered alien who's spent a lifetime hiding his unfathomable strength.

And again, you're still forgetting that this is a pre-Superman Clark Kent whose moral center based on being Superman (in other words, knowing who he was and what his purpose was to be), so quit acting so betrayed.
Clark did not get his morals by putting on a costume. He got them by being raised by the Kents.

The Kents have been happily thrown under the bus in a big way thanks to this film.

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How would we all feel if Clark slashed that guy's tires though?
Maybe next time he'll think before he cheats.

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I'd have wondered why he didn't just melt them.
Because he was not smart enough, nor in control of himself enough to prevent himself from victimizing other people who had nothing to do with the situation.

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Clark did not get his morals by putting on a costume. He got them by being raised by the Kents.

The Kents have been happily thrown under the bus in a big way thanks to this film.
Well as long as Clark didn't throw them, I guess it's OK.

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I was fine with how the Zod issue was resolved except the scene should have been longer..ie pushed Superman harder & maybe Zod should actually have gone further.

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lol at poll.

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heretic is living in the comic book fantasy world clark is perfect and can do no wrong mr boy scout

the modern superman in the comics isn't even like that
Hell, his version of Superman probably farts ****ing rainbows...

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heretic is living in the comic book fantasy world clark is perfect and can do no wrong mr boy scout

the modern superman in the comics isn't even like that
I know...the comics have even prepared us for this...rejecting the definitive Superman for what they hope will be seen as "cooler" version of the character.

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Hell, his version of Superman probably farts ****ing rainbows...
It's not my version...it's the definitive, classic version.

My version of the Punisher kills every bad guy he can get his gun barrel pointed at. That character has failed at the movies. I would not support them turning him into a romantic teenager just for the sake of broadening his appeal. The definitive Punisher has been found...no need to destroy it to appeal to Twilight and Hunger Games fans.

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So what is the definitive version of the character because the one you describe doesn't describe any from the Reeve movies, the death of Superman, Returns, Lois and Clark, Smallville, Returns, and most definitely the Injustice version.

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Also...another small issue...but Clark Kent is a thief. He stole a man's clothing. This man did NOTHING to Clark...never even met him.
Now I just think you're trolling.

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