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Old 06-04-2013, 02:46 PM   #101
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we meet adult Pym working out of a private lab...
Pretty good

I'd be happy if the Ant-Man movie was close to that.

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Old 06-04-2013, 07:18 PM   #102
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I'd like to see Tyrone Johnson and Tandy Bowen in high school together.

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Old 06-04-2013, 08:27 PM   #103
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Zoken's Spider-Man by way of Chronicle is simply awesome. It would have totally removed ASM from the Raimi films. Would have been brilliant. Brilliant.

I like Ant-Maniac's film, except for the quick introduction of him as a superhero. That story, and investing in that is important, and rushing to get a story best suited for a sequel could backfire. For instance, if we don't have time to care about Maria as a person, her death is meaningless to everyone but Pym, creating a disconnect. The rest, though is pretty awesome.

But, let me not critique without give you guys something to ransack. Very Wanda-centric.

Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch

Act I:

Pietro and Wanda Maximoff are Eastern European Gypsies, twins, and it turns out, adopted by their parents. Wanda is a dreamer, and Pietro is a hothead. Neither feels like they belong. When a werewolf type thing attacks, they try to fight it off, and end up burning down some important stuff. Pietro is kicked out, and Wanda goes with him to protect him, together, they decide to track this werewolf and prove their innocence. When they get there, they are attacked by mutant animal creatures, including the earlier werewolf Man-Beast, until a cow-woman comes out and tells them to stop. Bova, as she is called, recognizes them as the Lost Children of Wungadore, and demands they be let in. Here they meet Man-Beast, whose hesitation to kill Wanda has already blossomed into amicability. They also meet White Tiger, who hates Wanda and respects Pietro, and Mongoose, who thinks of the two as adorably useless distractions, and other non-notables. They are suddenly left to themselves as they are surrounded in green mist, the Isotope C, which causes them to cough, and then gain super powers. Pietro's are clear, Wanda's are not, though the probability effect is well implied and becomes clearer throughout the film. During this moment, from the mist emerges The High Evolutionary. He talks like Darth Vader and Bane combined. Deep basso voice with an English accent, filtered by his suit. He then details them his plan as he explains his plan, which is, in effect the EXACT same plan from Amazing Spider-Man, just with super powers instead of scales. New World. One where anyone, no matter how extraordinary, can belong.

Act II

Drafted into the New Men, Wanda and Pietro feel like they belong, and have little reason to disagree with the misguided notions of those who wish to stop them from evolving the world. They end up fighting SHIELD, using their new powers and High Evolutionary's technology, they have little problem dispatching their squads. They successfully set off the gene bomb full of Isotope C, and it gives some people powers... say we meet Dazzler, since Marvel has the rights, but seems to discomfort several others that the twins don't see. Cameo a MCU here if need be, say Hawkeye. There's some stuff in here about character development and exploring powers and the theme of the film about belonging. When the twins go help set off a big gene bomb in a major city, they are stopped when Wanda hesitates to kill the SHIELD agent. Wanda is captured protecting her brother, and she is interrogated by Hawkeye, or perhaps if not him, some lesser SHIELD agent, like Clay Quartermain. Here she finds out that humans without a particular genetic marker are killed by Isotope C. Bummer.

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Swayed, and then released, Wanda goes to confront The High Evolutionary and the New Men, but SHIELD follows her. A vicious ambush puts the New Men on the run, and Wanda is now caught between a massive conflict. Quicksilver is badly injured, and the New Men are nearly overrun, but then Pietro overdoses on Isotope C, and uses it as a weapon, and tilts the fight back in their favor. Wanda sees the bloodbath, Bova is killed in crossfire, Quicksilver fights through his injury, Man-Beast and Quartermain/Hawkeye are locked in a battle to the death and the High Evolutionary cares not for their plight, remaining in his subchamber to continue his work. Wanda then overdoses on Isotope C and proceeds to ransack everyone, nullifying attacks, crumbling weapons and supports and more. She pwns, basically. In the end, she returns the New Men to their original states, happy animals, ending the fight. Quicksilver falls from exhaustion. Wanda, still in a bit of a haze, goes to confront The High Evolutionary, locking out SHIELD from his sub chambers for their own protection. The megalomaniac proceeds to, using superior tech and intelligence, whoop her tail. She's about to kill him when bursting through everything comes Quicksilver, who will never let anything hurt his sister. The High Evolutionary (THE), devoid of his mystique and his technological advantage, proceeds to start to undo things and people, Movie-Phoenix-like, at which point, Wanda counters by holding them together, even fixes and undoes Quicksilver's injury. This sort of duel continues as other people are told to clear out, the whole place is coming down around THE and Scarlet Witch. We have dramatic cuts as these two begin to rip the entire world around them apart. Quicksilver helps Quartermain/Hawkeye escape, and we see the animals fleeing as well. The mountain crumbles and implodes and there is silence as everyone looks on. Then the mountain rebuilds itself, unimplodes and then slowly out of the caves, you see THE's helmet for a moment, and then realize it's being carried by Wanda, who throws it on the ground triumphantly. Celebration for a moment then, oh wait, Maria Hill shows up, you're both still under arrest. Bummer.

After credits: THE has survived, though not unscathed, just without his helmet. He kneels before "The Other" (Thanos' second banana), who berates him for failing to use the genetic isotope that he had been gifted with. THE tells him that the Scarlet Witch has awakened. The Other gives a significantly ominous response. Someone drops the word "Inhuman" in there somewhere.

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Old 06-05-2013, 03:11 PM   #104
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I like Ant-Maniac's film, except for the quick introduction of him as a superhero. That story, and investing in that is important, and rushing to get a story best suited for a sequel could backfire. For instance, if we don't have time to care about Maria as a person, her death is meaningless to everyone but Pym, creating a disconnect.
i'm fine with the forward being stretched out into the first movie (with my treatment being the sequel). but i wanted to establish Pym as a reluctant hero (Maria's death kind of puts him back in his shell). and i wanted the Ant-Man stuff to be kind of in his past, so that he could smoothly transition into being Giant-Man; in an Avengers movie. he's kind of a spindly teen in the flashback. that works better for the Ant-Man look that i imagine. and his frame would have filled out by the time we re-meet him. but i'm flexible.

p.s. it's funny that you mention the disconnect over Maria. because that's exactly how it was in the books; to many people. do you ever see posters mention Maria? would any of them even know that she was the inspiration behind his study of ants?

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Old 06-06-2013, 08:10 PM   #105
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I didn't know that at all. Very interesting, and yes, I was thinking the same thing: this sounds like a sequel. That said, there are movies that have done that whole 'wife dies before the opening credits' thing... I just don't like them. -shrug-

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Old 06-20-2013, 09:07 PM   #106
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I wouldn't say "Spidey by way of Chronicle" because it would not be one of those hand-held camera movies, I hate those. This would just be an aspect to update the story and explain a part of his character that is often over looked in the movies. Spider-Man jokes, that's a part of who he is as a character and what a lot of us love about him. If he makes a bad joke, he acknowledges it, he doesn't just expect it to fly or pass it off as a "corny jokes superheroes get away with", he admits it was bad.

I would see Cloak and Dagger as more a TV series, or an episode of SHIELD.

A plane crashes high in the Himalayas. there is only a single survivor, the teenage son of the rich owers of the plane. His name is Danny Rand. He is found by the inhabitants of the ancient city of K'un L'un. They take him in and help him recover. In the grief over his parents death, it actually does not occur to him to leave, he doesn't think there is anything else out there, so he stays with the inhabitants, becoming a rather scandalous figure, the only outsider permitted to walk the streets of K'un L'un, which is especially dangerous.

Basically I would want it to be an omage to martial arts movies, both the over the top appearance of the old version, to the beautiful choreography and wire work of the new school. mix in enough special effects to make it a Marvel movie (The dragon at the end) and you have something to work with.

Shang-Chi I would want to be more James bond as played by Jet-li if you catch my meaning. and intelligent thinking fighter, who has a plan laid out well in advance and every punch you think you snuck in below his defense, he let you get in to put you in exactly the place he wants you. Also a bit of the doctor, or Kal-El in Man of Steel, doing absolutely everything in his power to keep from taking a life, even one of his enemies, but in the end if he must, he will do what is necessary, and mourn his the loss of his enemy afterwards. Think, Vash the Stampede. All he wants is a quiet life, but his reputation and the demons of the past one allow that. Establish this with flash backs of rival teachings, his father in the ways of warfare, and his teachers in the ways of harmony and peace.

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