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Old 06-21-2013, 12:17 AM   #11
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Default Re: Captain America 2: News and Speculation - Part 6

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How about visiting Old Peg in the nursing home? I think Cap would be smart enough to realize how ****ing inappropriate that is, too.

Joss realized how inappropriate it is, and he alludes to it in that deleted scene from Avengers. Cap takes a look at Peggy's SHIELD file, sees that she's still alive, sees a phone number there, realizes it would be wrong to try to contact her, and realizes he has to move on with his life, and that there's no question that Peggy moved on with hers. He quietly closes the file, and goes on.
That's a complete misreading of the scene. Steve doesn't call Peggy because he's no ready to confront her.

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And that's where it should end, period. This "last dance with Old Peggy" **** is maudlin as hell. And it portrays Steve Rogers as a self-absorbed S.O.B., which he most certainly is not. What does he hope to gain from this? "Closure?" Closure for what? Seeing an old lady who went on and lived a full life without him being part of it at all? What's Peggy supposed to get out of it? The opportunity to feel ****ty because she and Howard Stark clearly didn't try hard enough to find Cap's body, since he was, you know, right there in the frickin' iceberg the whole time, still very much alive? I'm sure THAT will make her feel all tingly inside.

God. I hope to hell they leave this **** on the cutting room floor. You guys think this is some kind of heartwarming romantic scene, but it's not. It's maudlin melodrama that makes Steve Rogers look like a selfish ass. Even more so because it's taken him, what, 2 years to finally balls up to do the *wrong* thing and screw up this poor old woman's last days by re-lighting a spark that died 70 years ago?

Stupid. Just stupid.
Peggy knows Steve is back. The Chitauri attack received a lot of news coverage, the Avengers received a lot of news coverage. People know that Steve is the real deal, as evidenced by the leaked script pages detailing the scene with Steve and Sam.

So whatever feelings Peggy has, she's having them whether Steve visits her or not.

What's left is two people who were friends and comrades and would-be-lovers, who cared about each other and would still care about each other. They'd want to see each other just to see if the other was doing okay.

If Peggy saw the news and realized Cap was alive after all these years, and she did indeed feel guilty about not searching and never finding Cap (the ocean, BTW, is BIG), then would it be really better if Steve never visits her? Wouldn't that exacerbate her feelings of guilt?

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