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Old 06-22-2013, 07:17 PM   #251
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lmao, yeah that is pretty weak.

I thought they handled using the word "rise" much better in TDKR than "fear" in BB. But some of the other dialogue was kind of hit or miss. Not terrible, but not as crisp as TDK. The clean slate plot device was pretty bad. I mean, I love the idea of it. Especially when Batman says "I acquired it to keep it out of the wrong hands". That's another Batman moment that isn't brought up too much, but I wish it had a different name than just "the clean slate".

It's funny because some of the best lines are actually absent from the film.
I always liked how the clean slate device was brought up and mentioned by Daggett. Some call it unnecessary exposition, but I look at it as Daggett building up this pipe dream and how amazing it sounds, only to say how it was never a properly functioning idea. Just takes away this hope Selina wanted.

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I always liked how the clean slate device was brought up and mentioned by Daggett. Some call it unnecessary exposition, but I look at it as Daggett building up this pipe dream and how amazing it sounds, only to say how it was never a properly functioning idea. Just takes away this hope Selina wanted.
Oh no, I loved Daggett's mocking tone of the legitimacy of the clean slate, I just hate that it's actually named "the clean slate". It just came across as too on the nose.

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in a world where Batman/Spawn exists no one should be able to make that statement with a straight face.

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How many lines of dialogue do you think exist in Batman comics as opposed to Batman movies? I have no idea, but the ratio can't be less steep than 100,000:1.

Given that the small selection from the movies contains some appalling lines, I think the comics escape relatively lightly. Unless you are naive enough to buy something that is clearly destined to be crap, like random crossovers.

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Old 06-22-2013, 07:43 PM   #256
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Oh no, I loved Daggett's mocking tone of the legitimacy of the clean slate, I just hate that it's actually named "the clean slate". It just came across as too on the nose.
Ahh, okay. Well, with it being only at its origins with Rykin Data, it makes sense it didn't really have a proper name though. Perhaps it did when Bruce has it.

I just HATED how IM3 uses the whole "clean slate" approach as well...even using the exact words clean slate, lol.

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How many lines of dialogue do you think exist in Batman comics as opposed to Batman movies? I have no idea, but the ratio can't be less steep than 100,000:1.

Given that the small selection from the movies contains some appalling lines, I think the comics escape relatively lightly. Unless you are naive enough to buy something that is clearly destined to be crap, like random crossovers.
hahahahahaaha.

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the 'heroic' theme is also really good in Introduce a Little Anarchy...

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Yea that track is the one that actually appears in the film when Batman is fighting the inmate-doctors and cops as he makes his way up to the Joker.

The one I posted (Like A Dog Chasing Cars) seems to be a thematic suite that expands on it (but the track as a whole wasn't in the film).

Either way I would have loved a small dose of it as Batman triumphed over Bane, had the scene been longer.

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Did you all ever do that watch with everyone from here?

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It never happened, no.

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I miss the anticipation for TDKR. Nearly one year later the entire experience remains unforgettable.

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There's been practically nothing but positivity on Twitter after the HBO premiere of The Dark Knight Rises. Time has been good to it.


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I know I can't help but love it more and more. So looking forward to watching it at AMC

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HBO usually makes some cool new trailers right ? They didn't' made one for TDKR ?

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Old 06-23-2013, 06:35 AM   #268
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I miss the anticipation for TDKR. Nearly one year later the entire experience remains unforgettable.
True dat. Nothing has come close to that feeling since.

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For me, the anticipation for TDK outstripped it. There is something about wondering what this Joker would actually be like. Its a huge credit to Ledger that the outcome was not a disappointment.

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How many lines of dialogue do you think exist in Batman comics as opposed to Batman movies? I have no idea, but the ratio can't be less steep than 100,000:1.

Given that the small selection from the movies contains some appalling lines, I think the comics escape relatively lightly. Unless you are naive enough to buy something that is clearly destined to be crap, like random crossovers.
Those terrible comics don't stop existing just because you don't buy them.

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I miss waiting for and getting TDK.

That was probably one of the most rewarding moments of being a fan of something. Not only was the film great but the marketing kept rewarding us with interesting posters and little doo-dads here and there.

TDKR rarely rewarded us and sometimes seemed to punish us, haha.

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If WB had brought back 42E for TDKR's viral marketing, I'm sure they could have delivered something much better. But, I guess WB didn't feel the need to outsource it because the sequel to TDK did not really require a grassroots effort to build hype the way a sequel to BB did.

For me, the whole ride to TDKR was bittersweet because no matter what, we knew we were heading towards the end of a long journey. With TDK it was an agonizing (in a fun way) wait for the movie to get here, with TDKR I was just enjoying the ride, appreciating and reflecting.

Ledger's death really put a damper on my TDK hype for a little while though. Couldn't watch the trailer without feeling really sad. Then as it got closer to summer it became more about celebrating his work.

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For me, the anticipation for TDK outstripped it. There is something about wondering what this Joker would actually be like. Its a huge credit to Ledger that the outcome was not a disappointment.
Seconded. Nothing beats the hype days for TDK. That viral marketing campaign, the first pics of Ledger's Joker, the trailers etc.

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Thanks! That was more of a cheap plug.

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