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Old 06-26-2013, 04:03 PM   #451
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"Seth Rogers"?
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Doesn't mean a film version has to be. MS isn't doing straight up adaptations anyway.

But regardless it's the wrong storyline, I was thinking of Planet Hulk.
God, I hate to give Eh Maybe the benefit of the doubt, but I'm starting to wonder myself if there might be a grain of truth to the Planet Hulk rumor after all. I could see TA2 be about the team falling apart from within (didn't Whedon hint at that recently?), and the Avengers wind up taking on the "Illuminati" role in choosing to exile Hulk from earth. Cue TIH2: Planet Hulk as a phase III film circa 2016-2018, and TA3 could feature the team in a full scale mini-Civil War/ World War Hulk derivative/amalgam.

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eh, I kinda doubt it

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eh, I kinda doubt it
Eh...maybe.

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Screw that civil war talk.

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That torture chair looks freaking insane. I'm guessing that happens after they're captured by the SHIELD Task Force. Would also be the prime place to reveal Alexander Pierce as the Red Skull

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That torture chair looks freaking insane. I'm guessing that happens after they're captured by the SHIELD Task Force. Would also be the prime place to reveal Alexander Pierce as the Red Skull
My biggest fear is that this movie turns into SM3.

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How would it turn into SM3?

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How would it turn into SM3?
Too many villains, a convoluted plot, misuse of one of the villains and having to deal with Cap's personal problems on top of it all.

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^ Cool. I never bought him only being a SHIELD Task Force member. I even doubt he's really SHIELD and is more likely doing an inside job.

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Too many villains, a convoluted plot, misuse of one of the villains and having to deal with Cap's personal problems on top of it all.
I think that's a bad example because all of the CONFIRMED villains are lackys. There isn't a clear main villain in the bunch. SM3 had multiple main villains.

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I think that's a bad example because all of the CONFIRMED villains are lackys. There isn't a clear main villain in the bunch. SM3 had multiple main villains.
I know, but when people suggest there may be other main villains (pure speculation), I get kind of worried.
It's just my own paranoia because I think it's an easy trap for a CBM to fall into.

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That torture chair looks freaking insane. I'm guessing that happens after they're captured by the SHIELD Task Force. Would also be the prime place to reveal Alexander Pierce as the Red Skull
I didn't get to see this. It would a terrible, mysterious shame if pics were to appear in my pm box.

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this makes me think Rumlow will become Crossbones over the course of the film. Maybe he starts off as a SHIELD agent who means well, and by the end of the film he has a personal grudge against Cap. Avengers 2 he joins MoE as Crossbones!!

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this makes me think Rumlow will become Crossbones over the course of the film. Maybe he starts off as a SHIELD agent who means well, and by the end of the film he has a personal grudge against Cap. Avengers 2 he joins MoE as Crossbones!!

Nah....enough with these "save them for the next film" ****teases. They cast Grillo as Crossbones, not "Brock Rumlow, Bad Cop." Crossbones has a great costume, a modern look and personality, and could sell a ton of action figures and merch. "Brock Rumlow, Bad Cop?" Not so much.

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Doesn't mean a film version has to be. MS isn't doing straight up adaptations anyway.

But regardless it's the wrong storyline, I was thinking of Planet Hulk.
Eh, that's broadly true, but in the case of World War Hulk, there are so many problematic aspects that changing them all would leave the movie completely unrecognizable. You don't want the Hulk as the villain of the piece, but you also don't want to villainize all the other heroes. . . and even if you use some actual villains as the cause, having Hulk rampage over the world still makes him out as just as bad.

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Nah....enough with these "save them for the next film" ****teases. They cast Grillo as Crossbones, not "Brock Rumlow, Bad Cop." Crossbones has a great costume, a modern look and personality, and could sell a ton of action figures and merch. "Brock Rumlow, Bad Cop?" Not so much.
My main point is that I think we'll see Rumlow become Crossbones in the movie based on Grillo's tweets. Its seems like he'll possibly start off as a SHIELD agent as in not a mole and then later change teams. Believe me I want to see Crossbones in this.

edit: either way though Crossbones joining the MoE would be good news to me!

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why are we forgetting the fact that the red skull went into space/another dimension? How can Pierce be him?

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I know, but when people suggest there may be other main villains (pure speculation), I get kind of worried.
It's just my own paranoia because I think it's an easy trap for a CBM to fall into.

The main villain is probably one of the actors we already know is in the film. We haven't seen this production frantically adding actor after actor like DOFP or ASM2.

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why are we forgetting the fact that the red skull went into space/another dimension? How can Pierce be him?
There has been more than one Red Skull in the comics. Johann Schmidt was one of the men behind the mask, but others arose to fill the role as the decades after WWII passed.

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why are we forgetting the fact that the red skull went into space/another dimension? How can Pierce be him?
Yeah, I don't buy the Skully theory at all. I think Skull is still out there somewhere, and has yet to make his return until *at least* Cap 3. Or a long shot at Avengers 2.

Instead, if Pierce is just a disguise (as seems likely), he's probably a regular Cap baddie like Zemo, Strucker, or Faustus; or --- the most likely of all --- Aleksander Lukin. Since Lukin was the actual handler of Winter Soldier in the comics. Plus, Aleksander = Alexander.

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There has been more than one Red Skull in the comics. Johann Schmidt was one of the men behind the mask, but others arose to fill the role as the decades after WWII passed.

I am well aware, believe me, my best friend is obsessed/infatuated with the character, so I know everything there is to know about the skull lol..but it's the movies.

There is NO WAY there will be more than one red skull....the second captain america movie with a different red skull..it's just weird...especially since the skull isn't a mask in the MCU.

The Red Skull is a failed attempt at a super soldier, it wouldn't make sense to have there be another "failed" attempt...or just an ordinary evil guy be a new red skull, who wears a mask as homage.

I know it's premature, but I can say with a full feeling of confidence that Pierce is NOT the red skull, or a red skull

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Yeah, I don't buy the Skully theory at all. I think Skull is still out there somewhere, and has yet to make his return until *at least* Cap 3. Or a long shot at Avengers 2.

Instead, if Pierce is just a disguise (as seems likely), he's probably a regular Cap baddie like Zemo, Strucker, or Faustus; or --- the most likely of all --- Aleksander Lukin. Since Lukin was the actual handler of Winter Soldier in the comics. Plus, Aleksander = Alexander.

remember your little idea about a secret invasion? In the comics, earth is off limmits right now. If we wanna talk about disguise, maybe Pierce could be some shape shifting alien infiltrating earth for whatever reason..could tie everything together...space and politics on earth

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Looks like the torture chair we saw yesterday isn't for CA or BW. Seems like the author of that story was told to take the photo down by Marvel, citing intellectual property laws.

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Can they really claim that scoops are illegal?

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why are we forgetting the fact that the red skull went into space/another dimension? How can Pierce be him?
We don't know where he went, all we know is that he disapeared while holding the Cosmic Cube, and that the Cosmic Cube was in SHIELD's hands for several decade. If it sent him away to whoever knows where, it could bring him back.

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