Superman the Movie = STILL the greatest superhero movie - Page 12

GREEN =w= DAY · 06-13-2013, 11:05 PM

i don't understand the love fest for this movie. i watched it for the first time when i was about 5 years old and thought it was whatever. over the years i've watched it anytime it was on TV and i still think it's a cheesy/campy film. Luthor's entire plot about destroying California, Superman turning back time, some of the dialogue, etc.

Hackman was hilarious and Reeve gave an excellent performance. about the only good thing i liked about that film.

other than that, i think it's beyond overrated.

mikey1974 · 06-14-2013, 08:27 AM

like I said,it perfectly fits the Silver Age. does it work now? definitely not. if it were released today, it would be considered another Batman & Robin.

Lead Cenobite · 06-24-2013, 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by GREEN =w= DAY

i don't understand the love fest for this movie. i watched it for the first time when i was about 5 years old and thought it was whatever. over the years i've watched it anytime it was on TV and i still think it's a cheesy/campy film. Luthor's entire plot about destroying California, Superman turning back time, some of the dialogue, etc.

Hackman was hilarious and Reeve gave an excellent performance. about the only good thing i liked about that film.

other than that, i think it's beyond overrated.

What exactly is wrong with cheesy/campy films? The Indiana Jones movies are a joke a minute and they're still thought of as exciting adventure films. Nobody disses them because they aren't deadly serious from beginning to end.

GREEN =w= DAY · 07-01-2013, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Lead Cenobite

What exactly is wrong with cheesy/campy films? The Indiana Jones movies are a joke a minute and they're still thought of as exciting adventure films. Nobody disses them because they aren't deadly serious from beginning to end.

Indiana Jones films are actually fun to watch, except for Kingdom of the Crystal Skulls

just about everything about the Donner films suck. campy villain, horrid dialogue, lack of action, Superman turning back time

, etc.

The Batman · 07-04-2013, 01:34 PM

It's amazing that after 35 Years and two reboots...this is still the best Superman film.

BH/HHH · 07-04-2013, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batman

It's amazing that after 35 Years and two reboots...this is still the best Superman film.

In your opinion

The Batman · 07-04-2013, 02:21 PM

^ What other obvious things would you like to state?

BH/HHH · 07-04-2013, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batman

^ What other obvious things would you like to state?

Errrr your name on here is The Batman

Sorry I wasn't trying to be funny or anything it's just they way you said it was like you were saying it as a fact.

B · 07-04-2013, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batman

It's amazing that after 35 Years and two reboots...this is still the best Superman film.

It isn't anymore.

Nathan · 07-04-2013, 03:14 PM

Depends on what you're looking for. With all the cheesiness and hammy Lex Luthor, it's definitely not the best Superman film for me.

The Batman · 07-04-2013, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BH/HHH

Errrr your name on here is The Batman

Sorry I wasn't trying to be funny or anything it's just they way you said it was like you were saying it as a fact.

Oh, no...I'm not like this guy:

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Originally Posted by B

It isn't anymore.

B · 07-04-2013, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batman

Oh, no...I'm not like this guy:

If you'd made some sort of valuable comment regarding your opinion that I could have discussed, I'd have elaborated further on my post.. but since you didn't, I didn't.

BH/HHH · 07-04-2013, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batman

Oh, no...I'm not like this guy:

I know

I'm sorry

The Batman · 07-04-2013, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BH/HHH

I know

I'm sorry

I too am sorry for my earlier post.

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Originally Posted by B

If you'd made some sort of valuable comment regarding your opinion that I could have disagreed with, I'd have elaborated further on my post.. but since you didn't, I didn't.

Fixed.

BH/HHH · 07-04-2013, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batman

I too am sorry for my earlier post.

Fixed.

Nah just me who should be sorry, I probably came a Riss as a douche

The Batman · 07-04-2013, 06:39 PM

^ No, I should've added an IMO in there.

GREEN =w= DAY · 07-05-2013, 03:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Batman

It's amazing that after 35 Years and two reboots...this is still the best Superman film.

far from it

B · 07-05-2013, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batman

Fixed.

Obvious trolling is obvious.

Bruce Malone · 07-06-2013, 04:34 AM

I certainly didn't grow up with this film as a child unlike others so it was only recently that i decided to view it in its entirety and it's a good film but i kept thinking that if i was alive in 1978 i'm sure i'd think this was a great/amazing movie but it hasn't transcended time as well compared to a lot of the other great movies of that era.

I'd say the only timeless aspect is reeve's performance the other aspects which again were probably amazing in their day don't stand up well enough for a modern era/audience. I'm sure nostalgia plays a role but abstractly it doesn't hold up amazingly.

It's not fair comparison perhaps but other movies from that era be it the godfather or Apocalypse Now totally transcend the era which they were in.

Kevin Roegele · 07-09-2013, 04:28 PM

I'm pleased to see this thread is still going.

'Haminess' and 'cheesiness' that people complain about is simply a matter of time and taste. In fifteen years, the 'realism' that is in fashion at the moment won't be popular anymore, and people will criticise The Dark Knight and Man of Steel for not being in the style that is popular in 2028.

Everything goes out of fashion eventually. You have to ignore that when accessing a film's qualities.

Uroboric Forms · 07-11-2013, 05:38 AM

It hasn't really aged very well. The flaws have been dug into already (Luthor's plans, turning back time, how irritating Ned Beatty is) and while it certainly isn't a bad film by any means, and was of course massively influential, it's very much rooted in the 70s. Plus Lois' (and everybody else by that matter) shrugging off the fact that this is an alien from a far away planet always baffled me.

Blitzkrieg Bop · 07-11-2013, 02:24 PM

I always thought Otis was funny.

Human Torch · 07-11-2013, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin Roegele

I'm pleased to see this thread is still going.

'Haminess' and 'cheesiness' that people complain about is simply a matter of time and taste. In fifteen years, the 'realism' that is in fashion at the moment won't be popular anymore, and people will criticise The Dark Knight and Man of Steel for not being in the style that is popular in 2028.

Everything goes out of fashion eventually. You have to ignore that when accessing a film's qualities.

One can only hope.

And yep,nothing beats the original.30 odd years and after several series/films,it's still the best.

BH/HHH · 07-11-2013, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Blitzkrieg Bop

I always thought Otis was funny.

Me too, Mr Lufor

priceless

Blitzkrieg Bop · 07-11-2013, 05:33 PM

Are we going to Addis Ababa, Mr. Luthor?

06-13-2013, 11:05 PM	#276
GREEN =w= DAY Side-Kick Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Tijuana/San Diego Posts: 6,805	Re: Superman the Movie = STILL the greatest superhero movie i don't understand the love fest for this movie. i watched it for the first time when i was about 5 years old and thought it was whatever. over the years i've watched it anytime it was on TV and i still think it's a cheesy/campy film. Luthor's entire plot about destroying California, Superman turning back time, some of the dialogue, etc. Hackman was hilarious and Reeve gave an excellent performance. about the only good thing i liked about that film. other than that, i think it's beyond overrated.

06-14-2013, 08:27 AM	#277
mikey1974 Hit Paydirt With KDRT! Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,574	Re: Superman the Movie = STILL the greatest superhero movie like I said,it perfectly fits the Silver Age. does it work now? definitely not. if it were released today, it would be considered another Batman & Robin. __________________ "I'm a Professional Crime Fighter!"

07-04-2013, 01:34 PM	#280
The Batman The Dark Knight Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gotham City Posts: 23,054	Re: Superman the Movie = STILL the greatest superhero movie It's amazing that after 35 Years and two reboots...this is still the best Superman film. __________________ "There is a difference between you and me. We both looked into the abyss, but when it looked back at us... you blinked."

07-04-2013, 02:21 PM	#282
The Batman The Dark Knight Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gotham City Posts: 23,054	Re: Superman the Movie = STILL the greatest superhero movie ^ What other obvious things would you like to state? __________________ "There is a difference between you and me. We both looked into the abyss, but when it looked back at us... you blinked."

07-04-2013, 03:14 PM	#285
Nathan ... Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 48,750	Re: Superman the Movie = STILL the greatest superhero movie Depends on what you're looking for. With all the cheesiness and hammy Lex Luthor, it's definitely not the best Superman film for me. __________________ I am the HYPE! Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

07-04-2013, 06:39 PM	#291
The Batman The Dark Knight Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gotham City Posts: 23,054	Re: Superman the Movie = STILL the greatest superhero movie ^ No, I should've added an IMO in there. __________________ "There is a difference between you and me. We both looked into the abyss, but when it looked back at us... you blinked." Last edited by The Batman; 07-04-2013 at 06:44 PM.

07-06-2013, 04:34 AM	#294
Bruce Malone Side-Kick Join Date: May 2009 Location: Stay out of my territory Posts: 7,962	Re: Superman the Movie = STILL the greatest superhero movie I certainly didn't grow up with this film as a child unlike others so it was only recently that i decided to view it in its entirety and it's a good film but i kept thinking that if i was alive in 1978 i'm sure i'd think this was a great/amazing movie but it hasn't transcended time as well compared to a lot of the other great movies of that era. I'd say the only timeless aspect is reeve's performance the other aspects which again were probably amazing in their day don't stand up well enough for a modern era/audience. I'm sure nostalgia plays a role but abstractly it doesn't hold up amazingly. It's not fair comparison perhaps but other movies from that era be it the godfather or Apocalypse Now totally transcend the era which they were in.

07-09-2013, 04:28 PM	#295
Kevin Roegele Do you mind if I don't? Join Date: May 2000 Location: England Posts: 23,363	Re: Superman the Movie = STILL the greatest superhero movie I'm pleased to see this thread is still going. 'Haminess' and 'cheesiness' that people complain about is simply a matter of time and taste. In fifteen years, the 'realism' that is in fashion at the moment won't be popular anymore, and people will criticise The Dark Knight and Man of Steel for not being in the style that is popular in 2028. Everything goes out of fashion eventually. You have to ignore that when accessing a film's qualities. __________________ There is no Marvel/DC rivalry. Most of the great comic creators worked for both; Jack Kirby, Frank Miller, Grant Morrison, Walt Simonsen, Gil Kane, Steve Ditko, John Byrne, Steve Englehart, Mark Waid...even Stan Lee.

07-11-2013, 05:38 AM	#296
Uroboric Forms Your Move, Creep Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 1,212	Re: Superman the Movie = STILL the greatest superhero movie It hasn't really aged very well. The flaws have been dug into already (Luthor's plans, turning back time, how irritating Ned Beatty is) and while it certainly isn't a bad film by any means, and was of course massively influential, it's very much rooted in the 70s. Plus Lois' (and everybody else by that matter) shrugging off the fact that this is an alien from a far away planet always baffled me.

07-11-2013, 02:24 PM	#297
Blitzkrieg Bop Fight Owens Fight Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Under there Posts: 8,155	Re: Superman the Movie = STILL the greatest superhero movie I always thought Otis was funny. __________________ Apes--together--strong

07-11-2013, 05:33 PM	#300
Blitzkrieg Bop Fight Owens Fight Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Under there Posts: 8,155	Re: Superman the Movie = STILL the greatest superhero movie Are we going to Addis Ababa, Mr. Luthor? __________________ Apes--together--strong

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