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Old 07-08-2013, 12:09 AM   #751
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Is the Crossbones guy on that Strike team?

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Old 07-08-2013, 12:11 AM   #752
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well thanks for the info but it think if they were referencing that on the hat they'd just use the slanted shield in sights logo.

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well thanks for the info but it think if they were referencing that on the hat they'd just use the slanted shield in sights logo.
Not sure what you're talking about but the hat is definitely referencing that Strike Team. :/

Any ETA on when that article is going to be posted Freshman?

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Old 07-08-2013, 12:27 AM   #754
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My bad, I wasn't referring to a specific article in the future. Just one that would happen to be about the strike team.

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So I haven't been in these forums much of late, but have people been speculating very hard about Robert Redfords character? I'm still assuming he's going to turn out to be a Strucker or Zemo type or be the link to modern day Hydra.

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Old 07-08-2013, 12:54 AM   #756
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So I haven't been in these forums much of late, but have people been speculating very hard about Robert Redfords character? I'm still assuming he's going to turn out to be a Strucker or Zemo type or be the link to modern day Hydra.

Most of us still assume that, too.
There was a lively discussion a couple of days ago about whether or not he's Red Skull.

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I'm guessing that Redford will turn out to be General Lukin. In the comics, Lukin was a key part of Bucky's days as the Winter Soldier. Redford being Lukin also allows them to explore the Russian angle with both Bucky and Black Widow. Plus, Redford playing a Russian character could be highly entertaining if done right and hilarious if done wrong.

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Old 07-08-2013, 01:02 AM   #758
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Hmmm I hope he isn't Red Skull. That seems a tad too honest. The thing I liked about Strucker is that he enabled Hydra and was wealthy and influential enough to fund it but he wasn't really that powerful... He could be great character to justify Hydras continual existence but really be keeping the seat warm for Red Skulls eventual return.

I could see Pierce as a character trying to restore the Red skull, like they believe he used the tesseract to travel somewhere else and perhaps he's using the situation to find out confidential info about the tesseract etc for his own info?

I dunno. I love all the shady, spy, double agent world of SHIELD though, I'm really excited that they're exploring it in the Cap movie.

When I rewatched Avengers recently, I noted the one scene where Cap first boards the Hellicarrier and Maria Hill kinda checks him out as he walks past her and I just thought "One day, lady... One day you're going to really piss him off and he's going to leap outta that window and hop on a jet" :P

So the idea of Cap being a fugitive or on the run in this film has me very keen :P

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I know that they must adapt these things keeping a lot of balls in the air for future story angles ect. but put me in the camp that having Redford play a character that is "only" Peirce would be disappointing. He could play an interim SHIELD director and be an interesting and important character to Cap in the film. I just think it's wasted to have a Redford and not have him be SKULL/ZEMO/STRUCKER.

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I don't think he needs a secret identity, just a secret role or motivation, like in Iron Man 3.

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I'm not expecting Redford to be anything more than a hardass SHIELD official. He'll be the by-the-book, head office type who takes over to track down Fury and give orders that Steve will ignore in pursuit of the actual plot. By the end he'll Do The Right Thing/Make The Right Call™ and we'll find out he isn't as much of a dick head as we were initially led to believe.

I do think think that he'll have a personal stake in the Winter Soldier, though. Prolly had a clash or two with him back in the 70's/80's, maybe even led an investigation that went nowhere. That's too good to ignore and I hope it features heavily.

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I'm not expecting Redford to be anything more than a hardass SHIELD official. He'll be the by-the-book, head office type who takes over to track down Fury and give orders that Steve will ignore in pursuit of the actual plot. By the end he'll Do The Right Thing/Make The Right Call™ and we'll find out he isn't as much of a dick head as we were initially led to believe.

I do think think that he'll have a personal stake in the Winter Soldier, though. Prolly had a clash or two with him back in the 70's/80's, maybe even led an investigation that went nowhere. That's too good to ignore and I hope it features heavily.
Redford's already said his character is a villain, though.

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Well he could be a villain without fully being a 'bad guy'.

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Well he could be a villain without fully being a 'bad guy'.
You can be an antagonist without being a bad guy. A villain's a villain.

Besides, the movie needs a "puppetmaster" type villain to control the various villains. Winter Soldier isn't a mastermind, after all.

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Umm, spoiler below

Freshman already posted something that suggests Pierce is in cahoots with Sitwell (HYDRA agent). The big SHIELD take over and hunting down Cap, Fury, etc is all probably spear headed by him as well.

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Hopefully this movie is more of a Captain America movie rather than a "S.H.I.E.L.D." movie.

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Freshman already posted something that suggests Pierce is in cahoots with Sitwell (HYDRA agent). The big SHIELD take over and hunting down Cap, Fury, etc is all probably spear headed by him as well.
I imagine that Fury isn't really a popular guy amongst the Security Council for his defying of their orders in Avengers, so I'd think they'd get him replaced with Pierce.

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Same, bro.

I wonder if HYDRA will be the same but modern, or if they'll be more like a secret society pulling the strings of the Marvel universe.

Also, do we still have to black that out?

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Well yes, since it's a spoiler for a movie not coming out for another year...

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Well yes, since it's a spoiler for a movie not coming out for another year...
Isn't everything here a spoiler, though?

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Yes it's a spoiler thread but there's still a rule not to mention it's polite to just stick spoiler tags on stuff. If you're speculating whatever, but if it's an actual image or very real spoiler, it needs to be tagged or blacked out.

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Breaking news: Captain America will probably have skin.

See, I can pass off obviously safe assumptions as news too.

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BREAKING: Captain America: The Winter Soldier has both Captain America and the Winter Soldier in it.

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BREAKING: Captain America: The Winter Soldier has both Captain America and the Winter Soldier in it.
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