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Old 07-21-2013, 04:07 PM   #51
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Good question, I donīt know!

I always thought it would be hard to make her look, well not ridiculous on screen.
Itīs one thing to make cartoons or comics but in a real movie?
So with that in mind and the new info,
I guees they could avoid giving her much time in the MCU.

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Old 07-21-2013, 04:15 PM   #52
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But we'll prob get this Ultron :
Where is this pic from?

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This just reinforced Scott Lang being the protag of the Ant-Man movie and Pym being old. Wonder where that leaves Janet though.
I hope they stick with a cross-generational Ant-Man movie, where we see Hank and Janet as Ant-Man and Wasp in the 60s, have Lang steal the tech in modern day and become Ant-Man, and possibly set up Cassie Lang as a member of The Avengers later.

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Old 07-21-2013, 04:18 PM   #54
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This just reinforced Scott Lang being the protag of the Ant-Man movie and Pym being old. Wonder where that leaves Janet though.
As someone whose only exposer to Janet is from A:EMH, was Wasp always that useless in the comics? I like her personality and sass, but in battle she was about as helpful as a poopy flavored lollypop.

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As someone whose only exposer to Janet is from A:EMH, was Wasp always that useless in the comics? I like her personality and sass, but in battle she was about as helpful as a poopy flavored lollypop.
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As someone whose only exposer to Janet is from A:EMH, was Wasp always that useless in the comics? I like her personality and sass, but in battle she was about as helpful as a poopy flavored lollypop.
Why would they even create such a thing?!?!?

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No Hank? I thought Joss was the one who "gets it"?

Unless of course Hank has a small role as the mysterious creator of Ultron that doesn't show up until Ant-Man.

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Old 07-21-2013, 04:54 PM   #58
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Joss does get it, and he gets that having Pym create Ultron isn't the best and most sensible route to go in the MCU. They can keep the essence of Ultron's character without Pym being the one make him. As for Pym himself, he may very well be an old guy in the MCU, so he was never going to have the same character arc from the comics in the movie anyway.

You guys aren't looking at the big picture.

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Old 07-21-2013, 04:58 PM   #59
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Joss does get it, and he gets that having Pym create Ultron isn't the best and most sensible route to go in the MCU. They can keep the essence of Ultron's character without Pym being the one make him. As for Pym himself, he may very well be an old guy in the MCU, so he was never going to have the same character arc from the comics in the movie anyway.

You guys aren't looking at the big picture.
I am looking at the fact that they are deciding to do Batman Year One with someone other then Batman.

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If Pym isn't the one to design Ultron, what's the logic of his faceplate? The whole point is that he sort of looks like an ant.

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I am looking at the fact that they are deciding to do Batman Year One with someone other then Batman.
Yes these are totally equivalent situations.

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Yes these are totally equivalent situations.
I know, thank you for agreeing.

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I am looking at the fact that they are deciding to do Batman Year One with someone other then Batman.
Hey look nonsensical analogies to prove an equally illogical point. Guess they go hand in hand.

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Hey look nonsensical analogies to prove an equally illogical point. Guess they go hand in hand.
Everyone knows that Ant-Man is to Ultron as Batman is to Batman.

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Old 07-21-2013, 05:43 PM   #66
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Didn't javis die when tony decided to blow up his iron man. Thus Tony creates javis no 2 ultron then the avengers defeats and destroy ultron. Then after movies ant man, doctor strange, black panther , etc.
Then in avengers 5 ultron 56 whatever from the future returns and the twist is it was hank pym that recreate him.

Problem solved.

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Didn't javis die when tony decided to blow up his iron man. Thus Tony creates javis no 2 ultron then the avengers defeats and destroy ultron. Then after movies ant man, doctor strange, black panther , etc.
Then in avengers 5 ultron 56 whatever from the future returns and the twist is it was hank pym that recreate him.

Problem solved.
Jarvis didn't die.

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Ultron by the way of Thanos possibly?

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Old 07-21-2013, 05:52 PM   #69
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It's best to just deal. It's hilarious that you would rather have Thanos create Ultron, which would then literally destroy the character because the essence would be gone. The Avengers creating Ultron keeps the essence of the character and in fact strengthens it. I becomes a story about the team itself and not just one character.

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It's best to just deal. It's hilarious that you would rather have Thanos create Ultron, which would then literally destroy the character because the essence would be gone. The Avengers creating Ultron keeps the essence of the character and in fact strengthens it. I becomes a story about the team itself and not just one character.
I am not saying he created by Thanos solely. I am thinking he is perhaps somehow involved. I am past the being angry bit and thinking of how they are going to go about this.

I just heard this nice theory about Ultron being powered by the Power Gem. I think that would tie in well with Thanos without him having to be there the entire time or directly responsible for Ultron.

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Old 07-21-2013, 05:59 PM   #71
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Well good for you. I wish more people would be accepting and start to think of why this makes sense and what interesting new roads it opens. I for one like to be surprised and don't mind them changing aspects of a character's origin as long as the essence in maintained, which it seems they're doing here. I'd rather see a reinterpretation than an adaptation of certain things. Characters like the twins and Ultron fit that bill to me.

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Well good for you. I wish more people would be accepting and start to think of why this makes sense and what interesting new roads it opens. I for one like to be surprised and don't mind them changing aspects of a character's origin as long as the essence in maintained, which it seems they're doing here. I'd rather see a reinterpretation than an adaptation of certain things. Characters like the twins and Ultron fit that bill to me.
I had my little cry. Now it is on to theories.

In the end, as long as it is awesome, I won't have much of anything to complain about. Heck, we are getting a big screen adaptation of Ultron, and Wanda is going to be there. The world is good.

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Old 07-21-2013, 06:21 PM   #73
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I think it is possible that Robert Redford's SHIELD character may have commissioned Pym to work on the Ultron project in secrecy, with the goal to replace Avengers in the future with an army of Ultron. However, after Pym finished with its AI, they couldn't build an ideal android body for it so he turned to Stark for help. Stark is now no longer Iron Man so he decided to help, but Pym's AI becomes sentinel and gone rogue. Stark felt responsible so he becomes Iron Man again so he can put down the monster he helped created. In the Ant Man movie, it could deal with the aftermath of A2.

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I hope he starts off looking like this:


Ultron should look similar to this:
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Iron Man from that movie universe. As reference.


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I want this Ultron:


But we'll prob get this Ultron :

Seriously, where is this pic of Ultron from? It's awesome.


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