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Just some fan art by a talented digital artist. It's originally the Ironman Mark II
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Here's what I think may happen re: Ultron in A2:
Robert Redford's SHIELD character decided to start making machines that can replace Avengers in the future, called Project Ultron. He tapped the brillant scientist Dr. Pym to develop the machines, and he created the program and personality of Ultron. However, he failed to create the right robotic body for Ultron so Redford's character turned to Stark for help, and lied to him about the whole project. Stark is no longer Iron Man so he lent his help, and created the body (but not face) of Ultron. Pym added the face later. Ultron went rogue and Stark felt guilty, so he designed a new armor and become Iron Man once again, to help Avengers to take down Ultron. Pym's story will continue in Ant Man. How's that?
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Don't think it will happen because Joss has said in no uncertain terms now that Hank Pym will NOT be making Ultron and that he will be an invention of the current Avengers.
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Random thought: do we know that the Clean Slate protocol really destroyed all the armors... "I'm sorry, Sir, I'm afraid I can't do that."
Alternately, I once suggested that if AIM is still around, well, they had access to the War Machine/Iron Patriot armor. But more importantly, the question we should be asking is what kinds of personal links would Ultron have to Avengers other than Tony? If it involved Asgardian destroyer tech, that would get Thor involved. With Winter Soldier's cybernetic arm, maybe there could be some kind of link to Cap there? Though WS is said to have a big set up for A:AoU at the end, so I guess we'll have to see what that is. Widow and Hawkeye are SHIELD agents, so not hard to get them involved... But what about Banner? |
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Dude we have enough internet porn to usher in programming for the next century.
Also the armors aren't some super duper rare creations. Tony has the blue prints for all of them. It's not like Thors hammer of Caps, Shield.
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Guys, what if Tony Stark builds Ultron from the tech left behind by the Destroyer from Thor? That way, it ties in more with the entire MCU. As for Winter Soldier, I'm sure whatever will happen there leads directly into the environment where Ultron has to be built, or something along those lines...maybe.
I dunno, either way, I was never a Hank Pym fan, so the fact he's not in the film leaves me ambivalent at best. |
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Its funny to what I have read on other forums and everyone going ape-nuts outraged at the fact that Pym is not building Ultron
![]() Most of the viewers of MCU are the GA, they make most of the % than us. And they don't know who built Ultron on the comics, they just want to see the movie like most of us. Just deal with the fact that it will more likely be Stark building Ultron and it will have a diffrent "origin" from the comics. Just like Mandarin/Killian. MCU doesn't follow the comics as it if were gospel. Saying that, I was surprised at the announcement of Ultron for Avengers 2, I really thought Marvel was going the route of MoE (It was already stated that Thanos was not going to be in Avengers 2, which is good, he is the BADDEST and should be hyped up more). I am really looking forward for this movie!!! |
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Banner knows or will known during the movie that Ultron is a world threat thus him helping out the Avengers or maybe SHIELD just asks for his help. |
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Selvig and Pym maybe? Selvig said the cube was "knowledge" and he's learned so much. Maybe he's learned enough to be able to work with the Destroyer and build Ultron from that and a Stark arc reactor. Something like that.
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Selvig is an astrophysicist, I don't see him being the one involved. The most likely candidate is Tony as he is the only one shown capable of creating A.I., and the fact that he used to be a weapons manufacturer.
I'm guessing that at one time, Tony had created the project, the government scrapped it, and he took what he had to create Jarvis, based off loving memory of his father's butler growing up. The government stole the plans from Stark and continued their work, and then Ultron was born.
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I think Tony Stark creates Ultron
One of Tonys new droids that figured out how to think on it's own , kind of a Jarvis 2 with a attitude |
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Im guessing the origin will be reworked to make him spawn from Iron Man's tech
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![]() Yes it´s possible since the cosmic cube could contain Asgardian knowledge. We don´t know how Odin got the cube or why he has the IG in his vault. So that´s still unclear. As for the energy source, it could be an infinity gem or an arc reactor yes. Is it possible, yes. Is it likely to happen, no not at all imo. The thing is that even if Selvig were to get a hold of the knowledge, he could never use it for it takes magic in order to build something like the destroyer. When it comes to powering it you need a lifeforce. Does AI´s count? I don´t think that you can even copy this tech so that you can make something based on the destroyer. An infinitygem + AI + robotic body based on the destroyer might work, but you hear how that sounds! http://marvel.com/universe/Destroyer_(construct) Read this! ![]() |
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The only thing the end establishes is that he would not create another suit of armor out of paranoia. If there is a legitimate threat, or any other kind of need for Iron Man to appear... why not automated? After all, he's over that, he has no need to hop in a suit and go and save the day himself. He's very comfortable solving whatever the problem is with just his mind. Very comfortable letting JARVIS handle the details.
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Do you guys realize that Paul Bettany could be voicing Ultron then?
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^I wouldn't be so sure. The popular opinion seems to be that Tony Stark has a hand in creating Ultron, but I get the nagging feeling that Whedon isn't going to go that route. I'm expecting the unexpected with this one; I doubt Ultron's origin will be as obvious as everyone thinks.
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Me personally, I took it that he's liable to create *anything* to solve the problems at hand. He has no limits because he's not tied to a suit of armor.
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What's Ultron going to be made of in the MCU? Clearly not Adamantium, as that is with Fox. But that is one of his distinct characteristics where he needs a molecular rearranger as well which Scarlet Witch has hexed on many an occasion to defeat him. Vibranium perhaps? Or Destroyer armour material? Chitauri tech?
I hope he looks like classic Ultron. Marvel Legends once tried redesigning classic Ultron, first with a dog head and then with something only casually resembling the classic look and both failed terribly. Neither looked anywhere as good as the tried and true design. And yet Whedon says that they will have to make changes because classic Ultron only has one expression (the iconic butterfly/ jack-o-lantern mouth with the crackling energy).
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Vibranium seems like the right move.
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Yeah. Unless Jackman gets what he wants. He said himself that he wanted to a part of A2. I know and agree that the chances of him being in the movie are extremely low. So yeah it´s going to be PB and vibranium.
But if Ultron went for the adamantium, let´s say Fox made a deal with em, where could he find it and could wolverine be involved? |
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Age of Ulvis.
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He clearly feels that they are no longer need, and that they aren't the solution to whatever threats await the world in the future. So there really is no logical reason for him to mess around with an even more advanced AI. If Tony's involved with Ultron, it'll be indirectly i.e. someone has taken his technology.
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