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Old 07-22-2013, 03:46 PM   #76
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^ that wasn't in reference to your post it was referring to the post by James. I guess I should've just quoted him.

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I typed "fan I know" not "fan in the world". I don't check the Avengers movie section on these boards because I have no interest in the Avengers movies in the first place due to my dislike of the first one.
Why would you? You don't like the film, there's no point in visiting the forum dedicated to it. As it happens, I don't visit The Avengers section either. Heck, you really don't need to go outside of the "Misc Comics Films" forum to find people who didn't like it. Even the regular "Misc Films" and "Cutting Room Floor" forums will offer posts of disdain toward The Avengers, or any other comic book movie.

Your phrasing aside, I'm just surprised to see people saying they don't know other fans who didn't like The Avengers movie. They're everywhere!

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Marvel Studios has had an exceptional track record.

I liked Man of Steel, but even MS's worst offering (The Incredible Hulk in my opinion) was better than it.

Going by what has been provided on both fronts, I have much more confidence in Age of Ultron.

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Marvel Studios has had an exceptional track record.

I liked Man of Steel, but even MS's worst offering (The Incredible Hulk in my opinion) was better than it.

Going by what has been provided on both fronts, I have much more confidence in Age of Ultron.
That's an interesting perspective. If that's where you are coming from, I can see why you feel this way.

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I consider Thor to be Marvel's worst offering, though I still haven't seen Iron Man 3.

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Marvel Studios has had an exceptional track record.

I liked Man of Steel, but even MS's worst offering (The Incredible Hulk in my opinion) was better than it.

Going by what has been provided on both fronts, I have much more confidence in Age of Ultron.
I guess what pisses me off, is now that they got the origin out of the way, and can explore new territory with Superman, against Braniac, Metallo, or whoever else, they are going to use the sequel to reintroduce Batman, that only takes away from Superman.

Add to this Goyer's vapid writing skills and Snyder's nack for disaster porn, I think this thing could end up doing worse than MoS did.

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Old 07-22-2013, 04:25 PM   #82
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I voted AoU. I'll be catching both of course, but if I had to choose one over the other right now, it'll be AoU. Until there's more info about WF - who's playing Batman, the script. Wasn't too enamored with MoS.

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I guess what pisses me off, is now that they got the origin out of the way, and can explore new territory with Superman, against Braniac, Metallo, or whoever else, they are going to use the sequel to reintroduce Batman, that only takes away from Superman.

Add to this Goyer's vapid writing skills and Snyder's nack for disaster porn, I think this thing could end up doing worse than MoS did.
Sigh.
For years, for many years now people have considered DKR a brilliant Batman story. Before anyone starts to crap on it, the book is pretty iconic and genre defining. Go look at the charts.

Funny enough that book features superman in it. It also features a great joker appearance. Ignoring the technicalities, I seem to recall batman not getting short changed. Just a thought.

It just seems so odd to hear people complain about a crossover short changing Superman but when avengers was announced most people weren't as concerned about Cap and Thor and Hulk...Hard to figure out what to extrapolate from this. About fans anyways. The GA is far more transparent and consistent.

Anyways, I suppose time will tell, Goyer and Snyder's DCU work has been far more memorable for me than the majority of he MCU work thus far. I hope they continue.

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I guess what pisses me off, is now that they got the origin out of the way, and can explore new territory with Superman, against Braniac, Metallo, or whoever else, they are going to use the sequel to reintroduce Batman, that only takes away from Superman.

Add to this Goyer's vapid writing skills and Snyder's nack for disaster porn, I think this thing could end up doing worse than MoS did.
Well said.

Sums up many of our concerns.

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There's no way it can do worse. The name alone.

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I guess what pisses me off, is now that they got the origin out of the way, and can explore new territory with Superman, against Braniac, Metallo, or whoever else, they are going to use the sequel to reintroduce Batman, that only takes away from Superman.
This is why I'm not as excited for WF as I should be.

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Avengers: Age of Ultron!!!!!

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Old 07-22-2013, 06:14 PM   #88
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Sigh.
For years, for many years now people have considered DKR a brilliant Batman story. Before anyone starts to crap on it, the book is pretty iconic and genre defining. Go look at the charts.

Funny enough that book features superman in it. It also features a great joker appearance. Ignoring the technicalities, I seem to recall batman not getting short changed. Just a thought.

It just seems so odd to hear people complain about a crossover short changing Superman but when avengers was announced most people weren't as concerned about Cap and Thor and Hulk...Hard to figure out what to extrapolate from this. About fans anyways. The GA is far more transparent and consistent.

Anyways, I suppose time will tell, Goyer and Snyder's DCU work has been far more memorable for me than the majority of he MCU work thus far. I hope they continue.
Apples and oranges. Marvel has been consistent in that the solo films are just that, solo films, and the joint Avengers films are a separate things. Yes things overlap, cameo's and such, but When they announced Thor 2, it wasn't going to be 'Marvel Team up Thor and Iron Man".

This is just WB sticking their finger in the wind because they want Avengers money. They want that after Geoff Johns poo poo'd what Marvel was doing when Marvel Studios started out.

I just feel bad for whoever gets cast as Batman. It's like WB is setting them up for failure, ala Brandon Routh.

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Apples and oranges. Marvel has been consistent in that the solo films are just that, solo films, and the joint Avengers films are a separate things. Yes things overlap, cameo's and such, but When they announced Thor 2, it wasn't going to be 'Marvel Team up Thor and Iron Man".

This is just WB sticking their finger in the wind because they want Avengers money. They want that after Geoff Johns poo poo'd what Marvel was doing when Marvel Studios started out.

I just feel bad for whoever gets cast as Batman. It's like WB is setting them up for failure, ala Brandon Routh.
I'm curious if you mention of Thor two and not winter solider was as calculated as one must assume it was.The Captain America sequel is featuring half of the avengers cast.

Then again like all the other films that featured cast members, I suppose you can just chalk all that up to glorified cameos.
Granted Hawkeye really was a cameo, and I suppose someone could argue that Black Widow was a cameo in IM2 even though she affected the plot and resolution, then there is all the Sam Jacskson stuff but I digress. Marvel has been making solo films, sure.

cough, War Machine/Falcon/Bucky.

Call what WB is doing what ever you want. Just make sure you do the same for Marvel, they all want money. Only Marvel has been getting praised for such things for a good while now.
WF is a superman film featuring another hero, for you to suggest otherwise would be a step towards hypocrisy imo.

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Apples and oranges. Marvel has been consistent in that the solo films are just that, solo films, and the joint Avengers films are a separate things. Yes things overlap, cameo's and such, but When they announced Thor 2, it wasn't going to be 'Marvel Team up Thor and Iron Man".
Accpet that Thors actualy second movie was really a team up with 4 other heroes.


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I just feel bad for whoever gets cast as Batman. It's like WB is setting them up for failure, ala Brandon Routh.
How is the new Batman being setup for failure? If anything this new Batman will have it easy since the Batman iron is white hot right now and with the success of MOS people now want more Batman. Only thing Warner can do to **** it up is cast a nobody like they did with Routh, which they more than likely won't do.

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Apples and oranges. Marvel has been consistent in that the solo films are just that, solo films, and the joint Avengers films are a separate things. Yes things overlap, cameo's and such, but When they announced Thor 2, it wasn't going to be 'Marvel Team up Thor and Iron Man".

This is just WB sticking their finger in the wind because they want Avengers money. They want that after Geoff Johns poo poo'd what Marvel was doing when Marvel Studios started out.

I just feel bad for whoever gets cast as Batman. It's like WB is setting them up for failure, ala Brandon Routh.
I don't think Routh was that great.

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I'm curious if you mention of Thor two and not winter solider was as calculated as one must assume it was.The Captain America sequel is featuring half of the avengers cast.

Then again like all the other films that featured cast members, I suppose you can just chalk all that up to glorified cameos.
Granted Hawkeye really was a cameo, and I suppose someone could argue that Black Widow was a cameo in IM2 even though she affected the plot and resolution, then there is all the Sam Jacskson stuff but I digress. Marvel has been making solo films, sure.

cough, War Machine/Falcon/Bucky.

Call what WB is doing what ever you want. Just make sure you do the same for Marvel, they all want money. Only Marvel has been getting praised for such things for a good while now.
WF is a superman film featuring another hero, for you to suggest otherwise would be a step towards hypocrisy imo.
As someone said in a MOS thread, a Cap/BW or a Cap/Falcon team up =/= a Batman/Superman team up. BW is going to be seen as a supporting character by most of the audience. There is no way they can make Batman look like a supporting character. It's BATMAN. That being said the movie can still be great if they handle Batman well and give Superman enough attention.

But yes Marvel also want money but people praise them because they usually don't rush things.

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Considering the track record, this isn't even remotely close. Age of Ultron.

Toss in the fact that I don't give a fig about DC or their characters in just about any way then it becomes comical.

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I got to say though, the poll results are quite surprising.

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I have been waiting a long time to see Batman/Superman on the big screen together. So World's Finest gets my vote.

But I think Avengers 2 will be the better movie, overall.

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I got to say though, the poll results are quite surprising.
Not really, as usual people comparing avengers to mos. You have thor fans, cap fans all voting there...Moreover these boards are lot more cynical towards the mos product and producers than they are to what marvel is doing. I'm not surprised. I am pretty curious how the GA will vote though.

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As someone said in a MOS thread, a Cap/BW or a Cap/Falcon team up =/= a Batman/Superman team up. BW is going to be seen as a supporting character by most of the audience. There is no way they can make Batman look like a supporting character. It's BATMAN. That being said the movie can still be great if they handle Batman well and give Superman enough attention.

But yes Marvel also want money but people praise them because they usually don't rush things.
Superman was a supporting chracter in DKR wasn't he, and he's superman. Those Xmen movies are all about wolverine and his supporting cast...But that's beside the point. All WB has to do is look at lethal weapon or Star Trek 2009 to see dual character work that pleases everyone.

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I have been waiting a long time to see Batman/Superman on the big screen together. So World's Finest gets my vote.

But I think Avengers 2 will be the better movie, overall.
That depends on if you found the first film to be a strong movie vs a good time.

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Age of Ultron easily. I am what you would say a far bigger fan of Batman and Superman than any of the individual Avengers. But the creative team of Goyer and Snyder (who will share a story credit, like Sucka Punch) that has been assigned for World's Finest doesn't exactly fill a person who wants to see a well rounded movie with a great dose of confidence. While on the other hand Joss Whedon has every bit of trust from me to churn out two hours of worthwhile summer diversion. The answer is crystal clear.
Could not have said this better myself. I am more of a Marvel guy so there is some bias, but as far as straight up movies goes Whedon gets my vote before Goyer and Snyder.

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Superman was a supporting chracter in DKR wasn't he, and he's superman. Those Xmen movies are all about wolverine and his supporting cast...But that's beside the point. All WB has to do is look at lethal weapon or Star Trek 2009 to see dual character work that pleases everyone.
This is a movie, not the book. Batman will not just be a part of the supporting cast in a Superman/Batman movie. He will be a co-star. You're thinking this will be MOS2 with Batman guest-starring when it will be Superman/Batman with Batman and Superman co-starring.

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Not really, as usual people comparing avengers to mos. You have thor fans, cap fans all voting there...Moreover these boards are lot more cynical towards the mos product and producers than they are to what marvel is doing. I'm not surprised. I am pretty curious how the GA will vote though.



Superman was a supporting chracter in DKR wasn't he, and he's superman. Those Xmen movies are all about wolverine and his supporting cast...But that's beside the point. All WB has to do is look at lethal weapon or Star Trek 2009 to see dual character work that pleases everyone.
Actually TA was better received by the GA than MOS. That doesn't mean the GA would vote for TA2 though. I'm just saying it's not just comic book fans liking TA more.

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