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Yeah better wait with that disussion. I would be very happy to see wolverine and I also think it would be better to make Ultron grab adamantium rather than vibranium. As an X-men fan, Wolverine > Bp
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Ultron is going to have to be made out of Vibranium....maybe that's how Wakanda comes into the picture?
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Yes that´s what I meant with Wolverine > Bp.
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That's what I suggested, since we know Marvel was scouting Cape Town as a shooting location (i.e. Wakanda).
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Yeah, if Wakanda is in the film it's going to be very interesting to see how they handle Black Panther. It starts to sound overboard when you have Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch, possibly Vision, and Black Panther all being introduced in one film, when the film is supposedly about focusing more on the current Avengers.
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Yeah I want to see Joss deliver on his promise of going deeper into the team and not have it devolve into focusing on a certain and then having others shafted.
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Interesting
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You don't have to wonder about that. He's been doing that his whole career. Joss has a great knack for ensemble pieces and he's always had just the right amount. Be it, Buffy or Firefly, he has always given each of the characters plenty to work with.
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I bet you that Tony and Bruce work together to create Ultron... I mean rather than this being about Tony Stark creating it, it can explore a darker area of the negative consequences of power. Plus it would allow it to be more of an ensemble piece.
It could be structured like: cap hawkeye widdow falcon go all secret avengers on a mission maybe to recruit scarlet witch and quicksilver while tony and bruce stay home and work on ultron as some sort of super important thing, i dont know. Then ultron is born, chaos ensues, everyone comes back together, they think they defeat ulrton then vision appears they fight him, ultron recovers, vision maybe starts to question everything and just flies the **** off. then the avengers finish him (and his other robots or whatever). |
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I bet Ultron's name will be short for something like ULTimate Remote Operating Network. Basically the World Council doesn't trust the Avengers so they create this system similar to Skynet and when it goes live, well....
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![]() ![]() Maybe as said before that Ultron is a discarded Iron Man Suit who becomes self aware and a corrupted JARVIS.... Like when the suit attacked Pepper in IM3 on its own |
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I really don't want Ultron to be a corrupted Jarvis, other than what I speculated on, in that Tony was working on an AI system for the military, and they dumped the project, and he took the work that they did and made J.A.R.V.I.S. and based the A.I. on his father's butler. The military took what Tony was doing and corrupted it.
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ultron could just show up, and have a trail that leads to pym, without ever showing pym. then after or during antman movie we see where ultron came from. or just have the opening of the avengers 2 movie be a guy working on ultron. we never see his face just his back. we then see ultron activate. leading the audience to believe it was just some foolish scientist who created this AI gone bad. later have it revealed in antman that it was pym working on ultron.
also whatever happened to the talks with vin diesel and marvel. maybe they want him for ultron's voice. if they want him so bad i would hope it is just his voice they want.
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The problem with showing Ultron's origins AFTER AoU is that he'll just be some generic evil robot in AoU. The film shouldn't have to rely on sequels, prequels or origin films for depth.
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Also... what in the world does that have to do with not creating more advanced AI, a totally separate solution to problems? Are you guys trying to conjure up reasons for Stark not to make Ultron?
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I don't see how it can be concluded that Tony Stark will develop an A.I. to solve his problems when his current A.I. attempted to kill the love of his life. Why make an autonomous A.I. when you've seen first hand the dangers of such a thing? There would be no point in doing so; JARVIS does everything he needs(within reason) for the time being, and him going back to the drawing board with the mentality of 'ok, so JARVIS screwed up, how can I make him better for next time' would be too reminiscent of his plight in IM3 in the first place. He's past that stage by now. |
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I don´t know what it is going be based on. Maybe Stark tech or AIM stuff. Tony will probably not build it anyway. It´s however possible that he gets some blame if it´s based on his earlier work with wepons or with A.I (Jarvis). |
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^Maybe. I'm not sure how deeply we should read into Whedon's quote "his origin comes more directly from The Avengers we already know about," as that may mean from one(or all) of them directly or from their respective solo outings, be it a villain, organization, entity, or otherwise.
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Yeah. I get the feeling tho, that even if it´s an external source that makes Ultron go insane (or even create him),
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Whedon mentioned that Ultron will be going through upgrades during the film, so while he will start out with a transformed Iron Man suit, I think he's eventually going to end up in the big guy - the Destroyer armor. From the Avengers preview comics we know the SHIELD has the armor, and having Jarvis/Ulton transfer his conscious into this form is a much "cleaner" path to take than having him create a body from scratch. Indestructible armor is very difficult to come by, and SHIELD having one that somewhat resembles Ultron's comic book dimensions may be too convenient to pass up. |
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It´s just to much magic about it. I´m also not sure if an A.I counts as a lifesource(which is needed to use it) and no one (even with the knowledge to build such an armor) could do it because they would lack the magical power. Also if an A.I took over the suit, Odin should be able to do something, he is and Sky/All-father ffs. Maybe if a knowledge devourer like Ultron were to get his hands on the Tesseract or an infinity gem and an A.I counts as a lifeforce, it would be possible for him to do it, yes. But you hear how that sounds. Just saying. The best explanation so far is the one given by Rock Sexton imo. We will get Wakanda ->Bp-> vibranium->super enhanced Ultron. |
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