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Old 07-23-2013, 10:07 AM   #751
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I agree with some of the angry people, Thor getting his hand chopped off, even if it grows back by some magic power, is unacceptable! Would superman get his hand chopped off, or Hulk?! Thor shouldn't even be in a position to get his hand chopped off, and their are very few weapons that are capable of such a feat.

What I've come to realize is that their are fans who know Thor from cartoons, and movies, and their are fans who actually read Thor comics. Anyone who has read Thor comics for a length of time, can attest to the fact that Thor has become increasingly weaker. He lost his runes powers, Odin Force, lost his throne as king of Asgard, then his hammer broke and he is connected to his hammer through Thor force, meaning if his hammer breaks on Hulks head, he will die too. And then when you watch animated shows, he spends most of the time getting K'Od by Hulk, or whatever enemy their facing. I watch the 4th episode of the new Avenger Assemble show(spoiler alert), and the episode is about Thor and the avengers facing the world serpent(the same serpent that rapped around the earth twice, that Thor lifted single handed, widely considered one of his greatest shows of strength) was basically wiping the floor with Avengers, until Hulk who had been knocked silly comes up and punches the city big serpent flying into a warm hole Thor and Iron Man created. I'm like wow, Hulk has his own new show, and here he is being the star of this one as well. It was the perfect opportunity for Thor to display his powers, and he spends the entire show talking about how he needs to be eaten by the monster because that's his destiny. So yes the thought of someone cutting off his hand, is just the final straw. If Marvel came out and said, hey we want to de-power Thor into a more, Colossus, or Thing level, it would make sense, but don't just slowly reduce him to a level where he has his hand can be cut off. The guy is suppose to be able to withstand a nuke to the face, or the pressure of a black hole, how much do you want to bet it wont be explain how this weapon is this powerful to be able to cut his hands off.


K...I'm done ranting...has anyone actually seen the trailer?
I don't know if you know this or not but... this isn't the comics dude. And you shouldn't expect it to be.

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In Iron Man Three it has been established with Extremis that body extremities can grow back.

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He might as well have done this if they are permanently removing
his arm/hand which some people seem to think they will do.

Loki: "I take from you, your hand, and cast it out!"
Then we see it get flushed down the toilet only to
fall upon Midgard and hit Ultron in the face thus creating a short-circut.
Then it will be there until Thor gets it back but at what cost?
Ultron starts living again and then they can do A2, a good way to connect the movies
and save Thorīs hand.
please tell me you aren't serious lol

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I don't know if you know this or not but... this isn't the comics dude. And you shouldn't expect it to be.
Again mkilban lol I tell you this so often, you DO have to understand the perspective of comic book fan, you aren't much of a reader, so it's not nearly as easy for you to see it from our perspective. While I do agree about this guy with you, I have to say in an unrelated comment, these films are the closest things a reader gets to real life versions of the characters they love reading about. If they get brought to the big screen, there IS a desire and a hunger for it to be as close to the source material as possible. I'm not throwing any digs, but until you start reading comics, you really can't understand or expect a reader to simply be okay with the difference, it's a wee bit ignorant dude.

But I know you mean well, you're one of the most legit posters here....as for that other guy you quoted...he's a lost cause, so don't even waste your time lol

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please tell me you aren't serious lol
Pretty sure I wasnīt serious lol?

But the hand will not be chopped or if itīs chopped off he will get it back. There will also be a good reason for this illusion or temporary sacrifice.

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Destroyer arm or nothing!!!
I'll be honest, that sounds awesome. I love how it looks in God of Thunder and seeing it on the big screen would be awesome!

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^I had no idea he was involved in Thor 2

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^I had no idea he was involved in Thor 2
Yeah, the interesting thing is, Zach was apparently their original choice for Fandral for the first Thor movie but he couldn't due to his commitment to Chuck, so they went with Josh Dallas. Then, when Josh couldn't do TDW due to his commitment to Once Upon a Time they were able to get Zach for the part that they had originally wanted him for.

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Pretty sure I wasnīt serious lol?

But the hand will not be chopped or if itīs chopped off he will get it back. There will also be a good reason for this illusion or temporary sacrifice.
GOOD. Or it's a prophecy or something?

Right? Maybe with it being linked to a possible Ragnarok story, we get prophecies, and maybe this happens in say...idk someone's vision of the future?

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Again mkilban lol I tell you this so often, you DO have to understand the perspective of comic book fan, you aren't much of a reader, so it's not nearly as easy for you to see it from our perspective. While I do agree about this guy with you, I have to say in an unrelated comment, these films are the closest things a reader gets to real life versions of the characters they love reading about. If they get brought to the big screen, there IS a desire and a hunger for it to be as close to the source material as possible. I'm not throwing any digs, but until you start reading comics, you really can't understand or expect a reader to simply be okay with the difference, it's a wee bit ignorant dude.

But I know you mean well, you're one of the most legit posters here....as for that other guy you quoted...he's a lost cause, so don't even waste your time lol
Yeah I take the fact that most here are big time comic readers into consideration when I post and i respect their stances fully, but from time to time I just see something that irks me in a posters complaints lol. I think its fair to so that marvel has done a more than stellar job adapting these characters as closely as possible and making them work very well. Some people sometimes want too much, if Thor was to show his comic strengths like lifting the Midgard Serpant in a film. . Then what's really left? Just throw him into battle from now on and everyone else can go take lunch.

I do wanna see characters do more and come as close to their comic counterparts as possible, but in moderation.

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Don't know if this has been posted here yet: it's another recap of the Dark World Comic Con footage:

http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/the-...alaxy-and-more

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According to this writer, the footage shows Thor and Loki fighting each other in front of Malekith--and Loki is winning the fight!--before the, um, hand thing. Eek!


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Don't know if this has been posted here yet: it's another recap of the Dark World Comic Con footage:

http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/the-...alaxy-and-more

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According to this writer, the footage shows Thor and Loki fighting each other in front of Malekith--and Loki winning the fight!--before the, um, hand thing. Eek!
As I am new to this particular discussion regarding Thor's hand I will give my initial impression as to what I think is going on. I am limited in my knowledge of the details. Here goes. Loki and Thor are working in concert and it is Loki's magic that gives the illusion that Thor has lost his hand in their combat. This is to fool whoever it is they are fighting in front of.

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Don't know if this has been posted here yet: it's another recap of the Dark World Comic Con footage:

http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/the-...alaxy-and-more

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According to this writer, the footage shows Thor and Loki fighting each other in front of Malekith--and Loki winning the fight!--before the, um, hand thing. Eek!
Loki fighting Thor and winning?! They better have a good explanation for this.

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As I am new to this particular discussion regarding Thor's hand I will give my initial impression as to what I think is going on. I am limited in my knowledge of the details. Here goes. Loki and Thor are working in concert and it is Loki's magic that gives the illusion that Thor has lost his hand in their combat. This is to fool whoever it is they are fighting in front of.
That would be really cool for lokis character actually. But then of course he's off scheming something in the background

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That would be really cool for lokis character actually. But then of course he's off scheming something in the background
It wouldn't be Loki if he wasn't.

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Loki fighting Thor and winning?! They better have a good explanation for this.
Winning was my word, not the writer's.
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Release the trailer already!!!!!!
Has anyone heard anything about the trailers attached to Wolverine, I thought they released the list in advance..

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Don't know if this has been posted here yet: it's another recap of the Dark World Comic Con footage:

http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/the-...alaxy-and-more

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According to this writer, the footage shows Thor and Loki fighting each other in front of Malekith--and Loki is winning the fight!--before the, um, hand thing. Eek!
I don't understand how all of these witness accounts to the trailer can be so different. It was shown one time and one time only. Unless some people have the most ridiculous memories, some of these accounts must be fake. Or written for the purpose of throwing everyone off.

Or maybe the footage has been leaked somewhere and it's been found by a few people who then analyze and "report" on it. Either way, I'm not going to believe anything until I see the footage for myself.

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Yeah, I'm not sure I believe that one. If there was footage of Thor and Loki fighting, there would be more people blogging, tweeting about it. I'm sure they'll fight at some point, but I think this person took descriptions of the trailer and inserted his own stuff in there.

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Well, I'm not going with most of it, but the general thing at the end seems to all agree that Loki cuts off Thor's hand. I tend to think that the one guy that noiced Thor's hand was wrinkely makes me think it was infected with probably Darl elf magik's
I guess we'll have to wait until D23 to be sure

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Loki fighting Thor and winning?! They better have a good explanation for this.
Now I am thinking the whole hand thing is an illusion. Loki and Thor are playing Malekith. Heck, Thor might not even be in on it.

Or perhaps Thor is under Malekith's control and Loki cuts off his hand because that is the infected bit controlling Thor.

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Now I am thinking the whole hand thing is an illusion. Loki and Thor are playing Malekith. Heck, Thor might not even be in on it.

Or perhaps Thor is under Malekith's control and Loki cuts off his hand because that is the infected bit controlling Thor.
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As I am new to this particular discussion regarding Thor's hand I will give my initial impression as to what I think is going on. I am limited in my knowledge of the details. Here goes. Loki and Thor are working in concert and it is Loki's magic that gives the illusion that Thor has lost his hand in their combat. This is to fool whoever it is they are fighting in front of.
Yes I agree

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I Didn't see marcvader's post. Yeah, I really agree with his line of thought.

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