All Things Superman and Batman: An Open Discussion

[DChero]

Originally Posted by ThePowerCosmic

I want a Batcave that will have "souvenirs" of his previous fights. Like as the movies/franchise goes on, Batman accumulates more and more souvenirs.

The codex plot was kinda weird to me, but I'd love to see Hamilton back... sucks that he bit the dust so soon. Faora was sick but I'm not sure I'd want to see her in JL.

Agreed on the Batcave.

I'd like to see Faora return in a LoD capacity. If there are several kryptonians teaming up with Vandal Savage, Lex or whoever, it would provide a lot of substance for a Justice League movie.

[MrMaooz]

Do you guys want to see Gordon?

[DChero]

Originally Posted by MrMaooz

Do you guys want to see Gordon?

If it's in Gotham, I wouldn't mind a cameo, but I don't want him to have a big part. If it's in Metropolis, no because it doesn't fit his story.

[ThePowerCosmic]

Originally Posted by DChero

Agreed on the Batcave.

I'd like to see Faora return in a LoD capacity. If there are several kryptonians teaming up with Vandal Savage, Lex or whoever, it would provide a lot of substance for a Justice League movie.

Well I'm certainly not completely opposed to the Faora idea. You're right, it could provide substance.

Originally Posted by MrMaooz

Do you guys want to see Gordon?

I kinda do... but it's not a necessity for me. Honestly, all I need from Batman's world is Alfred. More of his supporting characters in WF would equalize it with Superman's supporting characters that will likely be returning, though. If he's in there, hopefully it's Cranston.

[MrMaooz]

I wonder who they'll recast as Alfred as he'll most likely be in this. Michael Caine was great and I can't think of anyone else.

[ThePowerCosmic]

I also want to see Clark interview Bruce in Wayne Manor. That would be awesome.

Originally Posted by DChero

If it's in Gotham, I wouldn't mind a cameo, but I don't want him to have a big part. If it's in Metropolis, no because it doesn't fit his story.

Even then, they could just show Bruce on the job in Gotham and in the Batcave. I can't see how Gordon would be required, but he'd sure be awesome to see.

[ThePowerCosmic]

I'm excited for a new Alfred that doesn't have a cockney accent. Hated that.

[DChero]

Originally Posted by MrMaooz

I wonder who they'll recast as Alfred as he'll most likely be in this. Michael Caine was great and I can't think of anyone else.

I've heard some people suggest Pierce Brosnan. I really like that pick.

[MrMaooz]

Originally Posted by ThePowerCosmic

I'm excited for a new Alfred that doesn't have a cockney accent. Hated that.

Who would you cast though?

[MrMaooz]

Originally Posted by DChero

I've heard some people suggest Pierce Brosnan. I really like that pick.

I don't dig it.

[DChero]

Originally Posted by ThePowerCosmic

I also want to see Clark interview Bruce in Wayne Manor. That would be awesome.



Even then, they could just show Bruce on the job in Gotham and in the Batcave. I can't see how Gordon would be required, but he'd sure be awesome to see.

What I really want out of Gordon is his Year One story. Since that really wouldn't apply to this, I don't need him either.

[DChero]

Originally Posted by MrMaooz

I don't dig it.

The reason that I like it is because it would bring more of a fresh take to Alfred. I'm a sucker for new dynamics. Haha. It could be my downfall.

[ThePowerCosmic]

Originally Posted by MrMaooz

Who would you cast though?

Simon Callow or John Cleese.

[MrMaooz]

Originally Posted by ThePowerCosmic

Simon Callow or John Cleese.

Steve Martin!

[ThePowerCosmic]

Originally Posted by DChero

What I really want out of Gordon is his Year One story. Since that really wouldn't apply to this, I don't need him either.

Yeah, I think Gordon can definitely wait until the Batman solo but he'd be cool. I like his Year One story as well.

Originally Posted by DChero

The reason that I like it is because it would bring more of a fresh take to Alfred. I'm a sucker for new dynamics. Haha. It could be my downfall.

I want a more tradtional Alfred, but maybe a fresh take would be interesting. I didn't like the Alfred in Beware the Batman at first, but he's really growing on me.

Originally Posted by MrMaooz

Steve Martin!

LOL... oh god, that would be something else. Can you imagine?

[herolee10]

Do you guys think that they should approach this film in a similar way to how Donner approached the first Lethal Weapon film in terms of how the characters are like with each other in both their first encounter with one another, and ultimately, on how they become good friends and partners out of it?

[DChero]

Will Farrell for Alfred. I think we're done here.

[DChero]

Originally Posted by herolee10

Do you guys think that they should approach this film in a similar way to how Donner approached the first Lethal Weapon film in terms of how the characters are like with each other in both their first encounter with one another, and ultimately, on how they become good friends and partners out of it?

Yes but with more subtlety. The first Lethal Weapon is pretty much the template for buddy cop movies. I have to keep using this phrase, but I'd like to see their relationship as more "grounded."

[ThePowerCosmic]

Originally Posted by DChero

Will Farrell for Alfred. I think we're done here.

Game, set, match.

[herolee10]

How would you guys feel if they presented Batman in this film, in a way where he was shown in the costume for pretty much the entire time and it isn’t until the very end of the film, after he’s come to respect and even trust Superman, that he unveils himself as being Bruce Wayne in the film?

[MrMaooz]

Originally Posted by herolee10

how would you guys feel if they presented batman in this film, in a way where he was shown in the costume for pretty much the entire time and it isn’t until the very end of the film, after he’s come to respect and even trust superman, that he unveils himself as being bruce wayne in the film?

idk.

[ThePowerCosmic]

I wouldn't like it. I want to see Bruce Wayne beforehand in the movie interacting with people like Clark, Lex and maybe Lois. I also want to see things like Bruce suiting up as Batman and also just sitting in the Batcave with his suit on but cowl off.

Plus, I think Supes would easily find out who Bruce is early in the movie with some X-Ray. I don't think Bats will have known about the lead thing yet, so there's no way to hide it.

[Bathead]

Originally Posted by DaRkVeNgeanCe

Jett over at BOF just confimed the comic con logo isn't the final product like most of us assumed.

Not me, I assumed it was NOT the final logo. I figured from the get-go it was only a placeholder. And I wasn't the only one.

[herolee10]

I think aside from getting the story right, what will really make or break this film is getting the right actor to play Batman, just three years after Bale gave us his last performance as the caped crusader. If the new guy can’t make people buy and invest him in as Batman, then this film will just be good only on paper in regards to the importance of these two iconic characters meeting.

Aside from Cavil’s own good acting and presence, he was lucky that he didn’t have that much competition when it came to making people forget about our last superman because Brandon didn’t make that much of an impression during his time as superman and that was 7 years before MOS was released.

[dario2739]

Originally Posted by ThePowerCosmic

Simon Callow or John Cleese.

Nah, my choice would be Hugh Laurie, Cleese is too old now, but would've been perfect a few years back.

As for the movie, would love it to open with the scene of Superman and Zod crashing into the Wayne Industries satellite - but from the perspective of the satellite... then on impact, the screen to rewind to a few seconds before... then have the scene zoom out to reveal that it is actually video footage from the satellite on a screen in the Batcave, with Bruce studying the footage of the two Kryptonians over and over... before then turning to Alfred, telling him to pack his things, he's going to Metropolis!