Underrated CB movies

[Green Goblin]

I made a thread with the most over rated so here's for the CB film's that we underrate. I'd say it's TIH, Ang Lee's Hulk and possibly Dredd.

[Wesley Dodds]

Yeah, Dredd's as under-rated as they come.

I'll add:

30 Days of Night
The Incredible Hulk
The Rocketeer

[Lord]

Ang Lee's Hulk

[Victarion]

Ang Lee's Hulk. The only thing I didn't like about it was the comic frame layout. The plot was good.

Hellboy II. One of the best fantasy films we've gotten.

[SpideyFan866]

Ang Lee's Hulk

Fantastic Four (2005)

Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer

Spider-Man 3

Watchmen

Batman Forever

Ghost Rider (2007)

[Senator Pleasury]

Ang Lee's Hulk

Batman 89

Superman Returns

X-Men: The Last Stand.

[CyclopsWasRight]

Ang Lee's Hulk (really like this)

Spider-Man

Hellboy & Hellboy 2

Watchmen

Thor

Batman Forevor

[jonathancrane]

Hellboy II
Daredevil: The Director's Cut

[Human Torch]

Much like the "overrated" topic,I'll point out my criteria: This first group is legitimately "Great" films that for whatever reason don't get the credit they deserve:

Spider-Man 3
X3 The Last Stand
Daredevil (theatrical)
The Incredible Hulk
Batman Forever
Iron Man 2

The next group aren't "Great",but turn up on "Worst" lists,when in fairness they're good,just not exemplary examples of the genre:

Origins Wolverine
Green Lantern
Both Fantastic Four films
Both Ghost Rider films

I'll go out on a limb and say Superman IV.I've always found it very watchable (much more so than Superman III).Not a great film,by any means,but Reeve & Hackman together are Gold in my book.

[CyclopsWasRight]

I've seen Superman III & IV so many times, they are just plain and simple fun to watch

[Green Goblin]

Originally Posted by Human Torch

Much like the "overrated" topic,I'll point out my criteria: This first group is legitimately "Great" films that for whatever reason don't get the credit they deserve:

Spider-Man 3
X3 The Last Stand
Daredevil (theatrical)
The Incredible Hulk
Batman Forever
Iron Man 2

The next group aren't "Great",but turn up on "Worst" lists,when in fairness they're good,just not exemplary examples of the genre:

Origins Wolverine
Green Lantern
Both Fantastic Four films
Both Ghost Rider films

I'll go out on a limb and say Superman IV.I've always found it very watchable (much more so than Superman III).Not a great film,by any means,but Reeve & Hackman together are Gold in my book.

May I ask why you think SM3 is great?

[Senator Pleasury]

Originally Posted by RedBlueWonder

May I ask why you think SM3 is great?

My thought exactly.

[Green Goblin]

Poor Spider-Man 3... I almost feel sorry for it at times.

[Tony Stark]

Originally Posted by RedBlueWonder

May I ask why you think SM3 is great?

Because he has a different opinion than you.

[Human Torch]

Originally Posted by RedBlueWonder

May I ask why you think SM3 is great?

I think a better question would be,why is SM3 hated?

To be honest,the only examples I've seen are either "Peter dancing/air gunning people" (It's a scant few minutes.Even if you hated those two minutes,how does that nullify the other 2hrs and 18 minutes?I hated the extreme close up of Batman's butt in Batman Forever,but it's ten seconds in an otherwise solid film )

The other is the "MJ is a shrew" complaints.I find it funny that I'm not a stickler for realism,but I seem to be one of the few that finds the realistic approach to Pete & MJ's relationship refreshing.It's not perfect,but what relationship is?

Not to cop out on the question,but I'd say I enjoyed most of it.It would be easier to say what I didn't like:

The purist in me hates the retcon of Ben's death,but I felt it worthwhile in the end,since there wasn't much that could turn Pete to the Dark Side.Having Pete think Uncle Ben's killer was still out there was the perfect catalyst.

Harry's storyline really should've gotten it's own film.It gets put on the back burner for most of the film,and there had to be a better solution than having the "Butler" resolve the plot.

The "New Goblin" costume was crap.But I can't fault them after the merciless teasing the Green Gobin's costume took from fanboys.You get what you deserve,I suppose.

[Lord]

Originally Posted by Human Torch

Much like the "overrated" topic,I'll point out my criteria: This first group is legitimately "Great" films that for whatever reason don't get the credit they deserve:

Spider-Man 3
X3 The Last Stand
Daredevil (theatrical)
The Incredible Hulk
Batman Forever
Iron Man 2

The next group aren't "Great",but turn up on "Worst" lists,when in fairness they're good,just not exemplary examples of the genre:

Origins Wolverine
Green Lantern
Both Fantastic Four films
Both Ghost Rider films

I'll go out on a limb and say Superman IV.I've always found it very watchable (much more so than Superman III).Not a great film,by any means,but Reeve & Hackman together are Gold in my book.

X-men Origins Wolverine was terrible, the most basic example of a bad film.

[Human Torch]

Originally Posted by Lord

X-men Origins Wolverine was terrible, the most basic example of a bad film.

This is another film I don't get the repulsion.It's only flaw,IMO was having a Sabertooth that neither looked nor acted like his previous incarnation.But I've yet to hear a compelling reason as to why this movie is supposedly so awful.

[Xak-Ell]

-batman forever
-superman returns
-ghost rider
-dredd
-watchmen
-hellboy II
-green lantern
-thor
-fantastic four
-star trek
-constantine

[Kahran Ramsus]

Daredevil: Director's Cut. One of my favorite comic book movies. It was sank by a combination of bitterness over the Theatrical Cut, Ben Affleck hype backlash, and being too dark and gloomy for a time in which the ideal comic book film was Spider-Man.

I think it would be better received if it came out today.

[Senator Pleasury]

Originally Posted by Human Torch

I think a better question would be,why is SM3 hated?

To be honest,the only examples I've seen are either "Peter dancing/air gunning people" (It's a scant few minutes.Even if you hated those two minutes,how does that nullify the other 2hrs and 18 minutes?I hated the extreme close up of Batman's butt in Batman Forever,but it's ten seconds in an otherwise solid film )

The other is the "MJ is a shrew" complaints.I find it funny that I'm not a stickler for realism,but I seem to be one of the few that finds the realistic approach to Pete & MJ's relationship refreshing.It's not perfect,but what relationship is?

Not to cop out on the question,but I'd say I enjoyed most of it.It would be easier to say what I didn't like:

The purist in me hates the retcon of Ben's death,but I felt it worthwhile in the end,since there wasn't much that could turn Pete to the Dark Side.Having Pete think Uncle Ben's killer was still out there was the perfect catalyst.

Harry's storyline really should've gotten it's own film.It gets put on the back burner for most of the film,and there had to be a better solution than having the "Butler" resolve the plot.

The "New Goblin" costume was crap.But I can't fault them after the merciless teasing the Green Gobin's costume took from fanboys.You get what you deserve,I suppose.

Senator Pleasury thanks you for your detailed reply.

I'll just refer to the "few seconds ruining a whole movie" subject you mention. I see it the following way: it's like saying that a tiny little fly on the plate can ruin your soup. Or that a little black spot can ruin the whole white carpet. I seriously believe a few seconds and/or scenes can actually ruin a movie.

[spider-neil]

Ang Lee's Hulk
ASM
Dredd (with the general audience)

[spider-neil]

SM3 is no where as bad as some people make out. It's certainly entertaining. The set peices are great, the dancing cracks me up and the Sandman 'birth' is beautiful.

I have seen a lot of rubbish superhero movies and whilst SM3 isn't exactly 'good' I don't think it deserves to be lumped in with the likes of Batman and Robin, a movie with almost zero redeeming qualities.

[Green Goblin]

Originally Posted by spider-neil

Ang Lee's Hulk
ASM
Dredd (with the general audience)

How is Amazing underrated? It's tied with SM2 on RT (both 4/5)

[spider-neil]

Originally Posted by redbluewonder

how is amazing underrated? It's tied with sm2 on rt (both 4/5)

sm 2 93%
asm 73%

rt

[Senator Pleasury]

Originally Posted by spider-neil

SM3 is no where as bad as some people make out. It's certainly entertaining. The set peices are great, the dancing cracks me up and the Sandman 'birth' is beautiful.

I have seen a lot of rubbish superhero movies and whilst SM3 isn't exactly 'good' I don't think it deserves to be lumped in with the likes of Batman and Robin, a movie with almost zero redeeming qualities.

Some could say - and have - that B&R is certainly entertaining. The set pieces are great, the freeze puns crack them up and the scene between Alfred and Bruce is beautiful.