The Svetlana Khodchenkova / Viper Thread - Page 18

psylockolussus · 08-05-2013, 10:18 PM

Yeah. If they were really disappointed with her acting performance, dubbing her voice isn't the solution for that.

Loki882 · 08-05-2013, 10:39 PM

Ok, I just saw the movie again today, I liked Viper A LOT more this time. She was actually really cool and creepy (skin shedding, ew).

AVEITWITHJAMON · 08-06-2013, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Loki882

It was a mistake to make her American. Viper being from Eastern Europe makes her more menacing and allows the actress to use her natural accent. That was an unnecessary change.

Exactly, I just dont get why they changed it. Yashida said he met her in America, but that didnt mean she had to be american.

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Originally Posted by psylockolussus

Yeah. If they were really disappointed with her acting performance, dubbing her voice isn't the solution for that.

Definitely, I simply refuse to believe the dub made things any better than originally were. I hope they cut out the dub for the BD personally, though I doubt it.

Liam_H · 08-06-2013, 01:08 AM

I highly doubt the filmmakers would go through the trouble of a dub to make it worse.

Krak66 · 08-06-2013, 08:14 AM

why do you think that she was dubbed? I think this is Svetlana's voice

Loki882 · 08-06-2013, 10:08 AM

I think that it was her voice, her American accent just sounded kind of weird.

MagnarTheGreat · 08-06-2013, 10:29 AM

Repost (I think): Viper and Bane. Er, I mean Svetlana and Tom.

J_Howlett · 08-06-2013, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MagnarTheGreat

Repost (I think): Viper and Bane. Er, I mean Svetlana and Tom.

Yeah I posted that a while back to show that the voice in The Wolverine is most certainly not hers, at least to an extent.

BlackFox · 08-06-2013, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Krak66

why do you think that she was dubbed? I think this is Svetlana's voice

I guess they thought her performance was poor or hard for audiences to understand when editing so did some voice over work.

henzINNIT · 08-06-2013, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by AVEITWITHJAMON

Exactly, I just dont get why they changed it. Yashida said he met her in America, but that didnt mean she had to be american.

I simply refuse to believe the dub made things any better than originally were. I hope they cut out the dub for the BD personally, though I doubt it.

With a film with so few American characters, I can't imagine how thick Khodchenkova's accent must have been to require dubbing.

I too would love to hear her original performance on the home release.

psylockolussus · 08-06-2013, 08:13 PM

Its her accent or its probably hard to understand her words.

Krak66 · 08-07-2013, 12:30 AM

For Tinker, Taylor, Soldier, Spy Svetlana specifically simulated strong Russian accent at the request of the director

Loki882 · 08-07-2013, 10:49 AM

I could understand all of the Japanese actors and actresses just fine and they had accents. Svetlana in TTSS was understandable, so it wouldn't have been an issue.

747 · 08-11-2013, 04:21 AM

Viper was one of the weaker aspects of the movie for me. She felt more like a plot device than a character; and as a character she felt out of place.

DarthSkywalker · 08-11-2013, 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by psylockolussus

Its her accent or its probably hard to understand her words.

Then why cast her? It seems absolutely ridiculous to come to that conclusion after filming, heck after casting. And it honestly makes little sense. Her English seems to be very good.

I SEE SPIDEY · 08-11-2013, 08:46 AM

When you think about it couldn't have been her accent because the other two lead actresses had accents as well and nobody cared. It makes more sense that it was purely performance based.

X-Maniac · 08-11-2013, 12:53 PM

Do we know for sure she was dubbed?

Not that it matters to me in any case.

Loki882 · 08-11-2013, 09:09 PM

I agree with Spidey. Both Mariko and Yukio had strong accents, but they were great. All of the Japanese cast had accents. I don't think that she was dubbed. It seems more likely that she was told to try and do an American accent and wasn't used to doing one, so it sounded weird.

Snikt · 08-11-2013, 09:18 PM

For some reason I thought she'd be doing her regular accent in the film. But it did sound like she was trying for an American accent.

psylockolussus · 08-11-2013, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DarthSkywalker

Then why cast her? It seems absolutely ridiculous to come to that conclusion after filming, heck after casting. And it honestly makes little sense. Her English seems to be very good.

Well dubbing her voice is not a solution to bad acting. So it also doesn't make sense.

AVEITWITHJAMON · 08-12-2013, 12:48 AM

It definitely looks like she was dubbed, most of the time the words coming out didnt fit with her mouth movements. As others have said it wouldnt cover up a bad performance so I would still love to know why they did it.

Whiskey Tango · 08-12-2013, 12:57 AM

Maybe she pulled a Daniel-Day Lewis and hissed all her lines & slithered around the floor all the time. Imagine how weird that would have been at the catering table.

"yeah I wanted some more roast potatoes but ****ing Svetlana was wrapped around the bowl hissing and trying to bite me and ****. Plus she kept writhing her bare feet on the pigs n blankets tray. I love those things but **** that."

MagnarTheGreat · 08-12-2013, 01:47 AM

Maybe a test screening audience hated it (the Eastern European accent), so they changed it.

DarthSkywalker · 08-12-2013, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by I SEE SPIDEY

When you think about it couldn't have been her accent because the other two lead actresses had accents as well and nobody cared. It makes more sense that it was purely performance based.

I have a hard time believing her performance was worse then that horrible, horrible dub.

X-Maniac · 08-12-2013, 04:49 AM

When everyone mentioned the dubbing, I watched out for it on the second viewing and didn't see any signs of lips and words not matching at all. I was studying her mouth so much I nearly developed a squint.

Same with First Class when Beast's mouth supposedly didn't match the words. It was fine in the version of the movie I saw.

Are people watched leaked workprint versions downloaded from torrent sites or something? Because what I saw in the cinema looked fine.

08-05-2013, 10:18 PM	#426
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08-05-2013, 10:39 PM	#427
Loki882 Side-Kick Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 17,853	Re: The Svetlana Khodchenkova / Viper Thread Ok, I just saw the movie again today, I liked Viper A LOT more this time. She was actually really cool and creepy (skin shedding, ew).

08-06-2013, 01:08 AM	#429
Liam_H Side-Kick Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: California Posts: 8,526	Re: The Svetlana Khodchenkova / Viper Thread I highly doubt the filmmakers would go through the trouble of a dub to make it worse. __________________ Spill

08-06-2013, 08:14 AM	#430
Krak66 Side-Kick Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: KZ Posts: 693	Re: The Svetlana Khodchenkova / Viper Thread why do you think that she was dubbed? I think this is Svetlana's voice

08-06-2013, 10:08 AM	#431
Loki882 Side-Kick Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 17,853	Re: The Svetlana Khodchenkova / Viper Thread I think that it was her voice, her American accent just sounded kind of weird.

08-06-2013, 10:29 AM	#432
MagnarTheGreat Web Ninja Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 7,515	Re: The Svetlana Khodchenkova / Viper Thread Repost (I think): Viper and Bane. Er, I mean Svetlana and Tom.

08-06-2013, 08:13 PM	#436
psylockolussus Mutated User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: X-Haven (weekdays), New Attilan (weekends) Posts: 27,611	Re: The Svetlana Khodchenkova / Viper Thread Its her accent or its probably hard to understand her words. __________________ SUMMER 2016 MOVIES RANKING! Best to worst Finding Dory, The Conjuring 2, Captain America: Civil War, Star Trek Beyond, Don't Breathe, Ghostbusters, Jason Bourne, X-Men: Apocalypse, The Legend of Tarzan, The Angry Birds Movie, Suicide Squad, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Out of the Shadows, Alice Through the Looking Glass, Ice Age: Collision Course, Independence Day: Resurgence, Warcraft. www.twitter.com/xmenmoviesandtv

08-07-2013, 12:30 AM	#437
Krak66 Side-Kick Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: KZ Posts: 693	Re: The Svetlana Khodchenkova / Viper Thread For Tinker, Taylor, Soldier, Spy Svetlana specifically simulated strong Russian accent at the request of the director

08-07-2013, 10:49 AM	#438
Loki882 Side-Kick Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 17,853	Re: The Svetlana Khodchenkova / Viper Thread I could understand all of the Japanese actors and actresses just fine and they had accents. Svetlana in TTSS was understandable, so it wouldn't have been an issue.

08-11-2013, 04:21 AM	#439
747 Fanboy rivalry? Yawn. Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Sweden Posts: 4,183	Re: The Svetlana Khodchenkova / Viper Thread Viper was one of the weaker aspects of the movie for me. She felt more like a plot device than a character; and as a character she felt out of place.

08-11-2013, 08:46 AM	#441
I SEE SPIDEY Badass Ladies Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: In Superman's arms Posts: 51,905	Re: The Svetlana Khodchenkova / Viper Thread When you think about it couldn't have been her accent because the other two lead actresses had accents as well and nobody cared. It makes more sense that it was purely performance based.

08-11-2013, 12:53 PM	#442
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08-11-2013, 09:09 PM	#443
Loki882 Side-Kick Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 17,853	Re: The Svetlana Khodchenkova / Viper Thread I agree with Spidey. Both Mariko and Yukio had strong accents, but they were great. All of the Japanese cast had accents. I don't think that she was dubbed. It seems more likely that she was told to try and do an American accent and wasn't used to doing one, so it sounded weird.

08-11-2013, 09:18 PM	#444
Snikt Side-Kick Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,982	Re: The Svetlana Khodchenkova / Viper Thread For some reason I thought she'd be doing her regular accent in the film. But it did sound like she was trying for an American accent.

08-12-2013, 12:48 AM	#446
AVEITWITHJAMON The Born Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Liverpool, UK. Posts: 30,112	Re: The Svetlana Khodchenkova / Viper Thread It definitely looks like she was dubbed, most of the time the words coming out didnt fit with her mouth movements. As others have said it wouldnt cover up a bad performance so I would still love to know why they did it. __________________ 2016 movie ratings out of 10: 1)Captain America: Civil War-9.5(2)Deadpool-9(3)X-Men: Apocalypse-8.5(4)The Revenant-8.5(5)Star Trek Beyond-8(6)Jason Bourne-8(7)Batman v Superman DOJ: UC-8(8)TMNT: Out Of The Shadows-7(9)Suicide Squad-7(10)Batman v Superman: DOJ-7(11)Tarzan-6(12)Independence Day: Resurgance-5

08-12-2013, 12:57 AM	#447
Whiskey Tango Side-Kick Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: The South Posts: 25,217	Re: The Svetlana Khodchenkova / Viper Thread Maybe she pulled a Daniel-Day Lewis and hissed all her lines & slithered around the floor all the time. Imagine how weird that would have been at the catering table. "yeah I wanted some more roast potatoes but **ing Svetlana was wrapped around the bowl hissing and trying to bite me and . Plus she kept writhing her bare feet on the pigs n blankets tray. I love those things but ** that." __________________ "That was the edge Parker had; he knew that survival was more important than heroics. It isn't how you play the game, it's whether you win or lose.” ~ Richard Stark, Deadly Edge 2007-2008 SHH Pro Football Pick 'Em Champion

08-12-2013, 01:47 AM	#448
MagnarTheGreat Web Ninja Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 7,515	Re: The Svetlana Khodchenkova / Viper Thread Maybe a test screening audience hated it (the Eastern European accent), so they changed it.

08-12-2013, 04:49 AM	#450
X-Maniac High Evolutionary Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Genosha Posts: 13,917	Re: The Svetlana Khodchenkova / Viper Thread When everyone mentioned the dubbing, I watched out for it on the second viewing and didn't see any signs of lips and words not matching at all. I was studying her mouth so much I nearly developed a squint. Same with First Class when Beast's mouth supposedly didn't match the words. It was fine in the version of the movie I saw. Are people watched leaked workprint versions downloaded from torrent sites or something? Because what I saw in the cinema looked fine. __________________ Batman v Superman 6/10, Captain America: Civil War 7.5/10, Deadpool 8/10, X-Men: Apocalypse 8/10, X-Men: Days of Future Past 9/10

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