The SuperHeroHype Forums  

Go Back   The SuperHeroHype Forums > Batman > Future Batman Movies

View Poll Results: Should batman self narrate?
Yes 11 40.74%
No 14 51.85%
Don't know/care 2 7.41%
Voters: 27. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-29-2013, 05:02 AM   #1
Silvermoth
Avenger
 
Silvermoth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Australia
Posts: 5,919
Default Should Batman self narrate?

I'm a huge fan of what miller did for batman and one of the things I love was that sin cityesque style self narrating as batman describes his relationship with Gotham while he waits and plots in the darkness. That's one of the things I was really looking forward to in terms of a new style for the reboot.

That said, I reckon Ben affleck's voice would get on my nerves a bit. What do you think?

Silvermoth is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2013, 08:56 AM   #2
BatmanGoesToRio
Side-Kick
 
BatmanGoesToRio's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 424
Default Re: Should Batman self narrate?

Sounds interesting and would be a new take. It works in some films like in the Kick-Ass movies. As a German I don't know Afflecks' voice. Wanna watcha "Argo" in the next couple of days so I'll try the original version to find out.

BatmanGoesToRio is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2013, 04:59 AM   #3
Silvermoth
Avenger
 
Silvermoth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Australia
Posts: 5,919
Default Re: Should Batman self narrate?

Oh haven't you seen Argo yet? It's really good! There are a few creative differences where you can see they fixed things in the script compared to real life though.

Which city are you from in Germany? You can be vague but Germany is such a fascinating place!

Silvermoth is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2013, 07:46 AM   #4
NosfeRomas
Side-Kick
 
NosfeRomas's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 1,372
Default Re: Should Batman self narrate?

I would really like Batman being the narrator. Have him play detective and we actually hear what his thought process is, or his inner monologues. That would be great. Don't know if Affleck's voice fits the narrator style but will see. I really hope they do it though.

NosfeRomas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2013, 12:25 PM   #5
hellblazer103
Nasty Piece of Work
 
hellblazer103's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 771
Default Re: Should Batman self narrate?

i'd honestly love to see that. but if it doesn't happen, eh, I wouldn't mind.

also, NosfeRomas , nice sig ^ that's one of my favorite quotes from ol' johnny. finally a fellow hellblazer fan on here ! lol

__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Batman View Post
Comic fans will always defend the hot chick with the rack, unless said chick was divorcing someone like Michael Fassbender or Tom Hardy.

Last edited by hellblazer103; 09-05-2013 at 01:34 AM.
hellblazer103 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2013, 12:27 PM   #6
jonathancrane
Side-Kick
 
jonathancrane's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Arkham Island
Posts: 5,237
Default Re: Should Batman self narrate?

I would prefer not.

Narration rarely works in film and its an exercise in poor screenwriting: for this genre, it is better to show people what is important, than telling them.

__________________
*I will forgive the writers of Man of Steel, if Superman is the Enlightened Sun God he is supposed to be, in Superman vs. Batman. Quite simply, Superman does not kill. The writers of MOS failed to grasp this, to this film's detriment.
Favorite CBMs: 1) X2 2) The Avengers 3) CA:TWS 4) Watchmen 5) Batman: MOTP 6) The Dark Knight Rises 7) Thor: TDW 8) TASM 9) IM3 10) S/B: Apocalypse
jonathancrane is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2013, 12:45 PM   #7
Snow Queen
Side-Kick
 
Snow Queen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 2,059
Default Re: Should Batman self narrate?

I don't like narration usually. It's something that is usually just used to say something that could have been said in dialogue or shown rather than insight on the character. so I'll pass on it.

Snow Queen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2013, 01:19 PM   #8
uniqueweasel
Don't Drink and Bake
 
uniqueweasel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Skynet
Posts: 1,118
Default Re: Should Batman self narrate?

I'd love them to try it, something like Sin City worked well (at least to me).

uniqueweasel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2013, 06:32 AM   #9
titansupes
Side-Kick
 
titansupes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 2,205
Default Re: Should Batman self narrate?

No narration for me. 85-90% of the time it's just grating.

Especially if it's "He panics and rushes at me, I move swiftly and shatter his arm with a critical strike. I AM GOTHAM CITY". Shut the **** up, Bruce.

__________________
I NEVER WANTED YOU TO COME BACK TO GOTHAM.

titansupes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2013, 08:14 AM   #10
Spider-Kurt!
Side-Kick
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 959
Default Re: Should Batman self narrate?

Interesting idea but I feel that conversations with Alfred, Robin and to some extent Gordon or Superman better serve that purpose.

__________________
Romans 8:19
Spider-Kurt! is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2013, 08:30 AM   #11
Dark Raven
The Gal from Themysicra
 
Dark Raven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Tall and tan and young and lovely
Posts: 16,951
Default Re: Should Batman self narrate?

Quote:
Originally Posted by titansupes View Post
No narration for me. 85-90% of the time it's just grating.

Especially if it's "He panics and rushes at me, I move swiftly and shatter his arm with a critical strike. I AM GOTHAM CITY". Shut the **** up, Bruce.
I don't think anyone is thinking of that kind of 1st person storytelling. If there were narration it could be similar to how it's done in Burn Notice where he often describes people's psychology or gives tips on what to do in a certain situation to achieve your goal and how you might go about defeating the enemy.

__________________
Quote:
Anne Hathaway: "You did not just ask me that!! What a forward young man you are!!! My goodness!!"

Nominate your favourite Movie theme of all time for the upcoming tournament: http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=469413
Dark Raven is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2013, 11:32 AM   #12
hellblazer103
Nasty Piece of Work
 
hellblazer103's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 771
Default Re: Should Batman self narrate?

or the early seasons of dexter, before it got ****** and Dexter's narration just became statements describing what the audience just saw 3 seconds ago.

__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Batman View Post
Comic fans will always defend the hot chick with the rack, unless said chick was divorcing someone like Michael Fassbender or Tom Hardy.
hellblazer103 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2013, 02:21 PM   #13
747
Fanboy rivalry? Yawn.
 
747's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Sweden
Posts: 3,815
Default Re: Should Batman self narrate?

If done well, and fitting in context, it could be awesome, but it's hard to pull off for sure.

__________________
Top ten favorite theatrical superhero movies:

1. The Dark Knight | 2. Superman: The Movie | 3. Batman Begins | 4. Captain America: The Winter Soldier | 5. The Avengers
6. The Dark Knight Rises | 7. X2 | 8. Spider-Man 2 | 9. Batman Returns | 10. Iron Man 3
747 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2013, 02:29 PM   #14
the last son
Side-Kick
 
the last son's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 2,990
Default Re: Should Batman self narrate?

Naw. The less I hear from Batman the better.

__________________
"I'm Drunk right now, because I'm an alcoholic"
the last son is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2013, 03:25 PM   #15
DACrowe
Side-Kick
 
DACrowe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Planet Earth
Posts: 25,711
Default Re: Should Batman self narrate?

Well if you guys want more comparisons to Daredevil...

No. I think it can be done, but not with this character. The more silent and removed Batman is, the better.

__________________
"Let us disappoint the Men who are raising themselves upon the ruin of this Country."

--John Adams
DACrowe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2013, 05:11 PM   #16
shauner111
Side-Kick
 
shauner111's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 9,237
Default Re: Should Batman self narrate?

Quote:
Originally Posted by titansupes View Post
No narration for me. 85-90% of the time it's just grating.

Especially if it's "He panics and rushes at me, I move swiftly and shatter his arm with a critical strike. I AM GOTHAM CITY". Shut the **** up, Bruce.

shauner111 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2013, 05:27 PM   #17
uniqueweasel
Don't Drink and Bake
 
uniqueweasel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Skynet
Posts: 1,118
Default Re: Should Batman self narrate?

So do you guys think they were right not having him have internal monologues in The Dark Knight Returns animated? Because personally I think it could of done with having them in especially with the "this would be a good death" that sort of style would be great imo. Even just the Sherlock fight breakdown self narration would be great.

uniqueweasel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2013, 05:33 PM   #18
Happy Jack
Iconographer
 
Happy Jack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: The Future
Posts: 5,924
Default Re: Should Batman self narrate?

It would be hard to do well but it's something I've wanted to see in a live action Batman film. It's such a staple of the modern comics that it is a little weird to not have it any of the films. Even the cartoon movie of Dark Knight Returns removed the internal monologues, which I think hurt it. But given it would most likely backfire it might be just as well that they don't bother.

__________________
And on the pedestal these words appear:
"My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"

Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.
Happy Jack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2013, 05:40 PM   #19
uniqueweasel
Don't Drink and Bake
 
uniqueweasel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Skynet
Posts: 1,118
Default Re: Should Batman self narrate?

Yeah I think the key would be if they were to try it,would be to just do a tiny amount perhaps in his intro or certain fights or something. I don't think anyone expects full on narration like has been suggested.

uniqueweasel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2013, 06:39 PM   #20
Human Torch
I Can't Dance
 
Human Torch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 5,841
Default Re: Should Batman self narrate?

I honestly never liked it in the comics,so no.

__________________
I think I missed again.
Human Torch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2013, 05:05 PM   #21
Jekecy
Side-Kick
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 743
Default Re: Should Batman self narrate?

Quote:
Originally Posted by DACrowe View Post
Well if you guys want more comparisons to Daredevil...

No. I think it can be done, but not with this character. The more silent and removed Batman is, the better.
Every single live-action Batman has had an underdeveloped role (under the cowl), so I say now's a good time as ever to go a different route and tackle it head on. On film we've never seen the true mind state of Bruce when he's in full costume. And you really can't explore that without making him talkative. Which in and of itself is a betrayal to his outside exterior. Inner monologues are the next best thing at accomplishing that.

Dexter has done a fantastic job at showcasing a seemingly unfazed sociopath with underlying empathy. Without dumbing it down (at least in the earlier seasons) for the audience. It's such an integral component to his presentation that taking it away leaves you with a hollow persona. Great for the in-context world and its denizens, but terrible for the audience.

Jekecy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2013, 05:26 PM   #22
shauner111
Side-Kick
 
shauner111's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 9,237
Default Re: Should Batman self narrate?

I disagree Jekecy. The mysteriousness of Batman and what's going on inside him is more fascinating than spelling it out to the audience by having Bruce and/or Batman narrate his thoughts. I don't think it's necessary.

It works for Dexter sure. But I don't think I want to see it in Batman.

shauner111 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2013, 05:46 PM   #23
BatmanGoesToRio
Side-Kick
 
BatmanGoesToRio's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 424
Default Re: Should Batman self narrate?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Silvermoth View Post
Which city are you from in Germany? You can be vague but Germany is such a fascinating place!
Düsseldorf. Deep in the west at the River Rhine.

Capital of the state North Rhine Westphalia with about 550,000 citizens. And not a small Bavarian village in the Alps like it was shown in Burton's "Charlie And The Chocolate Factory".

BatmanGoesToRio is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2013, 06:11 PM   #24
Jekecy
Side-Kick
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 743
Default Re: Should Batman self narrate?

Quote:
Originally Posted by shauner111 View Post
I disagree Jekecy. The mysteriousness of Batman and what's going on inside him is more fascinating than spelling it out to the audience by having Bruce and/or Batman narrate his thoughts. I don't think it's necessary.

It works for Dexter sure. But I don't think I want to see it in Batman.
If you read comics, you already see it in Batman.

But no, I see the argument for both sides. It's just with these inherently stoic leads, you have little wiggle room to explore them without "resorting" to methods like inner monologues.

So it's either you have a fairly shallow presentation of Batman, or you're forced to be creative and make the narration work. After decades of the former, I'd be more interested in the latter.

It's not like we're not familiar with the method. I think everyone is aware how Shakesperean and expositional Nolan's films can be. This would simply remove that stage play element and give it solely to the one character it would make sense to have their thoughts uttered out loud.

Jekecy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2013, 05:20 AM   #25
uniqueweasel
Don't Drink and Bake
 
uniqueweasel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Skynet
Posts: 1,118
Default Re: Should Batman self narrate?

I agree with Jekecy, Batman as a character is very introspective, and we need something different than previously seen, I want to get more characterisation when he's actually Batman.

uniqueweasel is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:58 PM.

monitoring_string = "dee460792f24517621e3ca080805de7e"
Contact Us - Mobile - SuperHeroHype - ComingSoon.net - Shock Till You Drop - Lost Password - Clear Cookies - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Top - AdChoices


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SuperHeroHype.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. İ2014 All Rights Reserved.