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Old 08-31-2013, 03:43 AM   #276
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Old 08-31-2013, 11:04 AM   #277
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Then why have it? LOL

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Old 08-31-2013, 06:32 PM   #278
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Old 08-31-2013, 06:51 PM   #279
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Old 04-13-2014, 11:19 PM   #280
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I just watched the first two again in anticipation for TASM2 and while I still adore the first film, the second still leaves me totally baffled by it's praise.

I WANT to love Spider-Man 2 like most fans. I truly do-but I feel like I'm watching a totally different movie than most people. I still see an unevenly paced, poorly acted, overly daytime soap opera film with some genuinely amazing set pieces thrown in to add to my confusion.

When Spidey is in motion, I love the film. The production is better than the first by a wide margin...but when Peter has to talk to anyone, I just face-palm. I don't get what happened. The first film is cheesy, but I feel that the "gee-golly" tone and dialogue was better written and acted by everyone. The lighter tone is just smoother in every regard. Peter has more of a personality and his humor is mostly intact, which I think people overlook in the film. Maguire and Dunst actually seem to share a chemistry in the film. But when they share scenes in the second, it is literally painfully awkward and stiff. There is NOTHING there between them. I just don't think the film did a good job of extending the relationship in a realistic way. I understand why they aren't on the same page, but the film never does a good job or making me CARE or get invested. It felt like they were on again, off again simply for the reason of creating drama and it didn't feel organic.
Add to that the absolutely head-shakingly stilted dialogue the two of them had to spit out didn't help.

Alfred Molina just grandstands with no charisma of charm and damn near every single encounter Peter has with people is overwritten with morals, lessons and exposition. Exposition doesn't irk me like it does some people. But the exposition in this film stops it cold numerous times. Octavious, his wife, Aunt May, Ghost Ben, and even some random ass doctor simply tell Peter how he's feeling/should feel/ should do/is doing. No subtly, no charm. Rosemary Harris is the only one that can deliver this overwritten tripe with class. Everyone else just feels like their reading for a big budget soap opera.

And do we really have to get into how utterly atrocious MJ is written here? In the first film she has the makings of a good character but this film steps all over that and turns her into nothing but a shell-a goal for Peter to accomplish at the end. Her relationship with John is never put into any sort of context. I'm not saying the film had to be half about their relationship, but just like Peters and her relationship, the whole marriage thing feels tacked on just to make Peters life more miserable than it is and it's not organic. She never seems happy with him or into him in the slightest. She almost comes off like she's marrying him just to piss Peter off. Not to mention her smiling all bright and cheery as she ditches John ON THE ALTER. Is this supposed to be sweet and romantic? What in the hell? She is by far the most underwritten female character in a superhero franchise. At least Rachel Dawes had her own motivations and ideals, even if she's not all that well defined.

Peter's lose of power never rings true and the extended portion of him being powerless drags on needlessly and just kills any momentum the plot had built up. Not to mention the GLEEFUL look on his face as he walks away from a mugging, chomping on his hotdog is unforgivable. Not just to the comic character, but the character the previous film established. The film just stops cold to turn into some thoughtful exploration of the man behind the mask, but the writing isn't nearly strong enough to pull this off.

Like I said, I don't get it. And I desperately want to. Most fans see one of the most exceptional films of the genre. I see a sloppy, drab and unlikable film with great production values.


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Old 04-14-2014, 09:30 AM   #281
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Great superhero movie, nice script and acting. But it has it's dull moments, and it's my least favourite of the trilogy.

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