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Old 09-03-2013, 05:08 PM   #76
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How dare you! Val Kilmer is a was in The Saint.

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Old 09-03-2013, 05:41 PM   #81
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The MOS suit looked very much like the New 52 version.
The MOS costume has more of a fabric-like texture, and, while the mesh skin gives it a very sleek metallic look at times, you never really get the sense that Superman's wearing armor. It's almost perfect in a way. The New 52 suit, on the other hand, always looks like armor; and the overall design pattern is a little too busy for my taste. What's worse about that costume is that it only looks cool when penciled by the man who created it -- Jim Lee. Sometimes, even he has problems making it look good on paper.
I guess you could say that the suits have something in common in that they both lack red trunks and have a somewhat metallic texture, but that's not a huge similarity in my opinion. Having just trashed the New 52 costume, though, I will admit that I prefer the way it's colored -- nice and vibrant.

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I hate the Nehru collar on the new 52 suit. It looks so out of place.

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Let's grow out the ears AND the scruffy!

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after alot considered to have armored plates under the fabric...as for an example in motorcycle jackets...i came across this which was used in a movie.....i like the overall idea but im not sure if it transfers good to film






anyway heres a tryout.....



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after alot considered to have armored plates under the fabric...as for an example in motorcycle jackets...i came across this which was used in a movie.....i like the overall idea but im not sure if it transfers good to film






anyway heres a tryout.....


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well how should it be done then? armor under fabric....tell me

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At least he's not wearing hockey pads.

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i'm aware that its loking like crap don't worry

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It's "hoskey padz".

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The MOS costume has more of a fabric-like texture, and, while the mesh skin gives it a very sleek metallic look at times, you never really get the sense that Superman's wearing armor. It's almost perfect in a way. The New 52 suit, on the other hand, always looks like armor; and the overall design pattern is a little too busy for my taste. What's worse about that costume is that it only looks cool when penciled by the man who created it -- Jim Lee. Sometimes, even he has problems making it look good on paper.
I guess you could say that the suits have something in common in that they both lack red trunks and have a somewhat metallic texture, but that's not a huge similarity in my opinion. Having just trashed the New 52 costume, though, I will admit that I prefer the way it's colored -- nice and vibrant.
I'd say Jim Lee quite possibly makes the New 52 suit look the worst, and second to him Kenneth Rocafort- not a slight against either of them, I love their work.

Also, other artists do not draw the suit as if it were armour, Carlos D'anda didn't really do it, Rags Morales didn't, nor Ivan Reis, Mikel Janin, Doug Mankhe, David Finch, the guy who did the Supergirl arc with Superman. It's often displayed as a thick material with a sheen to it, as oppsed to Jim Lee's plate armour looking approach.

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really for some out there who like to see batman in a more fabric suit with armor underneath can come up with a good looking concept?

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All they need to do is use a fabric suit and say it's bulletproof somehow, they don't need to put armor under it.

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bulletproof clothing exists...how will it look cool on film if its not like the bat in the sun productions?

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I'd say Jim Lee quite possibly makes the New 52 suit look the worst, and second to him Kenneth Rocafort- not a slight against either of them, I love their work.

Also, other artists do not draw the suit as if it were armour, Carlos D'anda didn't really do it, Rags Morales didn't, nor Ivan Reis, Mikel Janin, Doug Mankhe, David Finch, the guy who did the Supergirl arc with Superman. It's often displayed as a thick material with a sheen to it, as oppsed to Jim Lee's plate armour looking approach.
The worst offenders are the creative teams (since colourists have to cooperate) who make it shiny. I would agree that Lee draws a terrible iteration of it--which is pretty much true of all his New 52 designs.

Based on the original Jim Lee art before the reboot, I hated the new looks. Fortunately, other creators have salvaged them considerably--sometimes with only minor adjustments. All it took to take Jim Lee's Flash design from "crap" to "awesome" was for Francis Manapul to draw the chinguard as a triangle and have the seams mainly appear as lit-up when running (and have them drastically marginalized at all other times).

Meanwhile, artists like Capullo and Gleason fixed his Batman design by drawing it as non-reflective and, again, drastically reducing the amount of random seamwork vomit that Lee included in every design.

I can even see the appeal of the New 52 Superman when drawn by certain artists--especially Ivan Reis, who kills it.

And Wonder Woman? Lee shouldn't even be allowed to draw her. Fortunately, her design was also salvaged over in her own title.

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after alot considered to have armored plates under the fabric...as for an example in motorcycle jackets...i came across this which was used in a movie.....i like the overall idea but im not sure if it transfers good to film






anyway heres a tryout.....


Oddly enough, that's how they designed the Daredevil suit.

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Yip, and that was a horrible design.

It looked like it was made by Rubies.

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bulletproof clothing exists...how will it look cool on film if its not like the bat in the sun productions?
A lot depends on how well it's made. They would likely have to use a slightly thicker cloth to look more substantial than what was presented in the Bat in the Sun films, but it would'nt really need much more than that. All it would take is about a minute's explanation (Lucius Fox again?) about the light weight fabric that will allow full freedom of movement, and yet stop a bullet or a knife. And that should appease those "realism" fanatics because these fabrics do exist, after all.

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I'd put Cap's costume in Avengers in the category of implied armor.

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