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Kristen Bell 4 6.67%
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Old 08-25-2013, 10:42 AM   #51
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i want abbie cornish she is a great actress who can convincingly exude tough maturity aswell as beauty and is only 31 and imo abbie is just waiting for that break out role and i just want abbie a super heroine may it be wonder woman,sue storm,or carol danvers she has tons of talent



I agree, Abbie is a perfect choice and is also my first choice, then comes Charlize and Kate.




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Old 09-05-2013, 06:04 PM   #52
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Marvel Studios say want to make a heroine-lead film. But they're giving the same excuses as DCE.

http://www.superherohype.com/news/ar...superhero-film

The only good thing is Capt. Marvel got a mention.

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Old 09-05-2013, 07:29 PM   #53
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I honestly don't care if a female hero gets a movie or not. All the social warriors "clamoring" for one just to have it are a bit annoying actually.

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I honestly don't care if a female hero gets a movie or not. All the social warriors "clamoring" for one just to have it are a bit annoying actually.
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Why is it being a social warrior to want a female superheroine-led film.

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Old 09-05-2013, 07:54 PM   #56
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I love the MCU dearly, but it is a sausage fest.

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hmm.. someone hot for sure. They don't have to be "naturally" blonde, however. Dye!

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Old 09-05-2013, 08:27 PM   #58
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So, D'Esposito's argument is that they're too busy to make a female led movie. Hey, Louis, you guys were the ones who scheduled five years worth of movies, ten films, and ALL of them had male leads. Did it ever occur to you to, I don't know, schedule ONE female led movie in the next five years, considering that you admit that people want one. As it stands right now, we have exactly ONE female superhero in the MCU, it will be two when Scarlet Witch appears, that's nowhere near good enough.

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Why is it being a social warrior to want a female superheroine-led film.
I never said everyone who wants it is a social warrior. But the ones who want it because they're social warriors and use that as their reasoning for it are annoying.

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Marvel Studios say want to make a heroine-lead film. But they're giving the same excuses as DCE.

http://www.superherohype.com/news/ar...superhero-film

The only good thing is Capt. Marvel got a mention.
I was trying to tell people Marvel is not more righteous that DCE, they've just been doing better business.

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I honestly don't care if a female hero gets a movie or not. All the social warriors "clamoring" for one just to have it are a bit annoying actually.
People asking for stuff you don't care about is always annoying. "What's the big deal, shut up and like what I like." is the natural human response.

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I love the MCU dearly, but it is a sausage fest.
Whedon had to fight and lobby to get Black Widow in Avengers, man. Movie companies just don't like female heroes, unless a director basically makes them have one, it's crazy.

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So, D'Esposito's argument is that they're too busy to make a female led movie. Hey, Louis, you guys were the ones who scheduled five years worth of movies, ten films, and ALL of them had male leads. Did it ever occur to you to, I don't know, schedule ONE female led movie in the next five years, considering that you admit that people want one. As it stands right now, we have exactly ONE female superhero in the MCU, it will be two when Scarlet Witch appears, that's nowhere near good enough.
I'm sure it occurred to them, but they have some concerns that take precedence over giving fans what they want, as you likely have surmised.

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Old 09-05-2013, 09:36 PM   #61
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I was trying to tell people Marvel is not more righteous that DCE, they've just been doing better business.



People asking for stuff you don't care about is always annoying. "What's the big deal, shut up and like what I like." is the natural human response.



Whedon had to fight and lobby to get Black Widow in Avengers, man. Movie companies just don't like female heroes, unless a director basically makes them have one, it's crazy.



I'm sure it occurred to them, but they have some concerns that take precedence over giving fans what they want, as you likely have surmised.
What are those concerns, explain them to me, because that sounds like a cheap copout. What they're saying is that people should be content with female heroes playing supporting roles to men, no that's not good enough and its ********.

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People asking for stuff you don't care about is always annoying. "What's the big deal, shut up and like what I like." is the natural human response.
In this case listening/reading people preach about how it's important for women's rights and equality that a female superhero movie get made is particularly annoying.

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In this case listening/reading people preach about how it's important for women's rights and equality that a female superhero movie get made is particularly annoying.
I understand, if you don't think it's very important, then someone saying its important would sound preachy, and thus annoying.

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What are those concerns, explain them to me, because that sounds like a cheap copout. What they're saying is that people should be content with female heroes playing supporting roles to men, no that's not good enough and its ********.
Well... keep in mind, for the most part people are content. They haven't been making billion dollar movies because people are not very content with what's been put out there.

The cocnerns are largely about story, but I think we're about to get into it in the 7 films thread, so I'll finish there....

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Old 09-05-2013, 10:31 PM   #64
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1. A-List

Charlize Theron. No competition. Sure, her prior "superhero" roles haven't been great, including Mrs Hancock and Aeon Flux, but with a decent script I think she would be a formidable Captain Marvel.

2. B-List

Yvonne Strahovski. Some name recognition thanks to Chuck and Dexter, but still fairly cheap. Obviously someone at Marvel watched Chuck since they've cast Chuck in the Thor sequel.

3. C-List

Jessica Marais. Tabrett Bethell. Ellen Hollman. Little name recognition and should be cheap and willing to sign multi-movie deals.

4. Outside Choice

Tatiana Maslany. Possibly the best actor on the small screen at the moment.

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I understand, if you don't think it's very important, then someone saying its important would sound preachy, and thus annoying.



Well... keep in mind, for the most part people are content. They haven't been making billion dollar movies because people are not very content with what's been put out there.

The cocnerns are largely about story, but I think we're about to get into it in the 7 films thread, so I'll finish there....
Meanwhile, we can look forward to Marvel's first female led movie, in 2025.

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Possibly, but it will most likely be in 2019 or 2020. We'll probably see Carol introduced before then though, she, and Mar-Vell may tie into the story quite a bit earlier than Phase 4.

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f*** it. Go big. Get Charlize Theron.
^this, i wanted her for ms marvel ever since i saw her in Hancock.

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If they made a Ms. Marvel movie it would honestly be a waste. They should make a Marvel family movie if anything. Just Ms. Marvel is pointless, it would be cheaper to just put her in an Avengers film.

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How is she pointless? Just curious???

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Yeah, in one of the X-Men threads we were discussing having a female main villain. While no main one there has been 8 different secondary female villains. The MCU has had only 2 and both of those were in one movie.

Capable woman/Hero-wise they are doing okay. Agent Carter, Pepper Potts, Sif, Black Widow and the SHIELD woman

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Yeah, in one of the X-Men threads we were discussing having a female main villain. While no main one there has been 8 different secondary female villains. The MCU has had only 2 and both of those were in one movie.

Capable woman/Hero-wise they are doing okay. Agent Carter, Pepper Potts, Sif, Black Widow and the SHIELD woman
I agree that they've been doing well when it comes to strong interesting females. However, the problem is that A. there all still SUPPORTING characters to male leads, and B. There is only ONE actual superhero. As for female villains, Thor has Amora the Enchantress and Cap has Madame HYDRA/Viper, and IM has Madame Masque. These could all be used quite easily.

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While I strongly dislike that there hasn't been a MCU female-led superhero movie yet, I do feel Marvel is at least on the right track with their films toward getting one made. They can introduce someone like Carol Danvers, or *sigh* Monica Rambeau or Bobbi Morse, etc. in A2 or another MCU film and then use that as a bridge to their feature film.

I'm starting to wonder, now that there's some louder rumblings here and there, whether we are closer to a Captain Marvel movie than we thought before. Perhaps they'll try to sneak her in Phase 3.

It's a huge complaint I have for Marvel Studios that they're lacking in characters of color as leads as well as females. They've got to up the diversity.

And the more complaints fans levy at "social warriors" clamoring for a female-led comic book movie, the more uppity I get about wanting one

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Diversity needs tooking to aswell you're right. Of the main Avengers line-up all are essentially white american, with the exception of Thor being Asguardian

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How is she pointless? Just curious???
She's not. At all.

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Another issue for MCU to deal with is that their best-known female characters are really tied up at Fox. They could've done a crazy badass all-female X-Men movie, or focused on Storm or Rogue or Jean Grey or Emma Frost or even Scarlet Witch and her mutant background. They could've also done something greater and more impactful with Sue Storm. But they can't, unfortunately.

It still doesn't excuse the lack of female representation in MCU's hero lineup, but I could see how it delays production on a big franchise focused on one of their female characters, simply because so few of Marvel's female hero lineup isn't nearly as recognizable to the public as the X-Men and Fantastic Four. Still though, if they announced a Captain Marvel movie, it would raise awareness for their main female Avenger in the public.

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