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Old 09-26-2013, 08:57 PM   #976
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Still waiting to see what's on the IM3 DVD of TDW.

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It is cool. I swear this got me even more pumped for AoU. Well, this and the new SHIELD show. Ultron should be incredible.

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Old 09-26-2013, 09:20 PM   #979
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I'm wondering if there will be alittle over flow of Ultron into SHIELD, like some kind of computer glitch in an inopportune time?

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Wouldnt that mean Ultron already existed?
We dont know that he has been created yet.

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Old 09-26-2013, 09:37 PM   #981
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I guess we'll have to wait and see what pops up in Thor and Cap.

EDIT we don't really know that Tony didn't already start working on the AI for Ultron BEFORE IM3 and it get's released that way

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Old 09-26-2013, 10:05 PM   #982
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I must say, compared to all the variations of Ultron's face we've gotten over the years, here, he really, really looks like, exactly like this

I mean, the eyes especially, same angle of triangle, even has the segmented part above his eyes. Could this statue have influenced his look?

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If they use that pic as a source material, then there is a good chance his body will look like that too

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Old 09-26-2013, 10:06 PM   #983
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The impression I got from Whedon in the Comic Con interview was that they were going to redesign Ultron somewhat.

Whedon poked fun at Ultron's fixed "screaming" face.

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I guess we'll have to wait and see what pops up in Thor and Cap.

EDIT we don't really know that Tony didn't already start working on the AI for Ultron BEFORE IM3 and it get's released that way
We don't know that Tony Stark has anything to do with the creation of Ultron. He might very well just be a victim of it instead of a creator of it.

And I think that the theory that this teaser shows Ultron being "forged" out of the Iron Man helmet has actually been disproven. Iron Man's helmet isn't being "forged" or "re-forged" --- it's being *attacked.* There's actual blades ripping through it, tearing it apart. That's not how you re-forge metal.....if forging was going to be the takeaway from this teaser, it would show the helmet being beaten, hammered, melted down and reshaped, *not* ripped apart with blades.

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idk about that. But all i got from it, was that Ultron has a new origin, and I am sure there won't be just one person responsible.

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How could a teaser with so little be getting me so excited?! Marvel's execution is perfect, I wonder what this origin of Ultron will be?

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I'm guessing The Winter Soldier will set things in motion for Ultron?

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Had an interesting convo on thee ole Twitter....

What if the person Whedon kills off is Pepper? Yes Paltrow has said she isnt in The Avengers 2 but she might not even know that shes in the story. I mean the main cast doesnt even no the story yet either?

This would definitely lead to a hardcore drinking Tony for The Avengers 3....and that would make Cap kick him off the team. Also would run up Robert Downey Jr's Contract

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See this all but confirms Stark is responsible for the creation of Ultron instead of Hank Pym.

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is JARVIS still going to be Ultron?

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"Still"? We never knew in the first place. And still don't.

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Does anyone know which film Thor was quoted on saying..."After all this time, why return?"...

I can't seem to remember which film he said that in.

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See this all but confirms Stark is responsible for the creation of Ultron instead of Hank Pym.
This really annoys me. However, as King of the Nerds is going to be directing it, I think it will be well executed.

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I still hope they somehow work Pym's involvement into it. I think it makes sense that Stark would probably be heavily involved. After all, he created amazing suits that could even function on their own and he's created an amazing AI in Jarvis. But I hope he finds some old work of Pym, that allows him to truly create self-aware artificial intelligence.

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I still hope they somehow work Pym's involvement into it. I think it makes sense that Stark would probably be heavily involved. After all, he created amazing suits that could even function on their own and he's created an amazing AI in Jarvis. But I hope he finds some old work of Pym, that allows him to truly create self-aware artificial intelligence.
Why does that matter?

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I agree with Nathan.

Why make an Ant-Man movie after just introducing Ultron. You donīt simply bring in Pym just after having Ultron if they arenīt connected.

I think Dr Henry Pym created Ultron a long time ago. Ultron tries to escape but is limited by the technology cause Pym is still so far ahead of his time. Every time Ultron tries something Pym is there to stop him as well. Tony on the other hand... "I am awesome and Itīs done by me so it canīt be bad" and he has the resources and the brain to evolve Ultron. Stark is perfect for Ultron. He can exploit his ignorance, brain and resources to accomplish his ultimate goal.

The thing is, if Ultron can change the events leading to Tony making him, then he should already be powerful enough and not need Stark. This is why I think itīs all connected to the timegem somehow.

Iīm a huge Thanos fanboy and Ultron is top 5 so naturally I come with these very strange ideas. One thing Iīve thought about is the title tho. Age of Ultron. Why is it his age? I think itīs more about Ultron messing with phase 2 to make it his age.

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is JARVIS still going to be Ultron?
We have no idea if he was or wasn't.

But if the synopsis listed on IMDB is any indication:

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As the US Government create a force, known as Ultron, The Avengers are told they are not needed any longer. But when Ultron turns against Humanity, it's time for The Avengers to assemble yet again for their most dangerous challenge ever.
And the casting call description is legit:

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Marvel Studios and The Walt Disney Studios are now in pre-production on the upcoming sci-fi themed superhero feature film “The Avengers: Age of Ultron”, and casting directors are auditioning actors for starring, co-starring, and supporting roles. The film’s photo doubles and stand-ins for the starring actors, as well as general extras and featured background actors will be cast closer to the start of filming. The locations where outdoor principal photography will take place are in and around London, England. Indoor sound stage filming will take place at Shepperton Studios. Shooting begins in February, 2014.

In “The Avengers: Age of Ultron” Loki is gone and the new villain will be the evil robot Ultron, who has the ability to keep upgrading his own strength, making him extremely fearsome. Tony Stark/Iron Man becomes the unwitting creator of Ultron. The brother-and-sister team of Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch become the seventh and eighth members of The Avengers. Quicksilver has extreme speed, while Scarlet Witch can cast spells and has telekinesis ability. Black Widow and Hawkeye will be key figures in the film.
Then no, JARVIS will NOT be Ultron. But, Stark will have had a big hand in Ultron's creation (Odds are that the technology used create JARVIS will have been used to create Ultron). Though, the same could be said for Hank Pym (Perhaps being a key contributor to the create of the technology, but not necessarily Ultron).

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Jarvis isnīt going to be Ultron, agreed. They could swing Jarvis becomming Vision tho.

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I still hope they somehow work Pym's involvement into it. I think it makes sense that Stark would probably be heavily involved. After all, he created amazing suits that could even function on their own and he's created an amazing AI in Jarvis. But I hope he finds some old work of Pym, that allows him to truly create self-aware artificial intelligence.
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I agree with Nathan.

Why make an Ant-Man movie after just introducing Ultron. You donīt simply bring in Pym just after having Ultron if they arenīt connected.

I think Dr Henry Pym created Ultron a long time ago. Ultron tries to escape but is limited by the technology cause Pym is still so far ahead of his time. Every time Ultron tries something Pym is there to stop him as well. Tony on the other hand... "I am awesome and Itīs done by me so it canīt be bad" and he has the resources and the brain to evolve Ultron. Stark is perfect for Ultron. He can exploit his ignorance, brain and resources to accomplish his ultimate goal.

The thing is, if Ultron can change the events leading to Tony making him, then he should already be powerful enough and not need Stark. This is why I think itīs all connected to the timegem somehow.

Iīm a huge Thanos fanboy and Ultron is top 5 so naturally I come with these very strange ideas. One thing Iīve thought about is the title tho. Age of Ultron. Why is it his age? I think itīs more about Ultron messing with phase 2 to make it his age.
I definitely think Pym will have a hand in creating Ultron. Though, I think that they'll establish that Pym, as well as Stark, were responsible for creating the technology, and in his pre Iron Man days, Stark repurposed the tech to create Ultron, but eventually put it on ice for some unknown reason.

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Yeah, no. Re-posting, from five posts above yours:

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I guess we'll have to wait and see what pops up in Thor and Cap.

EDIT we don't really know that Tony didn't already start working on the AI for Ultron BEFORE IM3 and it get's released that way
We don't know that Tony Stark has anything to do with the creation of Ultron. He might very well just be a victim of it instead of a creator of it.

And I think that the theory that this teaser shows Ultron being "forged" out of the Iron Man helmet has actually been disproven. Iron Man's helmet isn't being "forged" or "re-forged" --- it's being *attacked.* There's actual blades ripping through it, tearing it apart. That's not how you re-forge metal.....if forging was going to be the takeaway from this teaser, it would show the helmet being beaten, hammered, melted down and reshaped, *not* ripped apart with blades.
The teaser suggests that Iron Man is the *vessel* for Ultron's arrival, *not* that Stark creates him. I strongly, strongly suggest that people read Bendis' Mighty Avengers from a few years back, particularly the story arc that featured Ultron taking over Iron Man.

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