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Old 10-03-2013, 08:17 AM   #651
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So what's your point dude? Are you just trying to point out that daredevil was horrible so automatically he will suck as batman?
No, but he is trying to find everything in he book that could support his belief that Affleck isn't right for the role.

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Old 10-03-2013, 08:27 AM   #652
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No, but he is trying to find everything in he book that could support his belief that Affleck isn't right for the role.

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Old 10-03-2013, 09:24 AM   #653
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I don't give a **** about Razzie winning films and usually avoid them but I had tried watching Daredevil years ago and couldn't finish it. I don't even remember what I saw it was so bad but his performance seems pretty awful.
Yeah I watched the Directors Cut two days ago, and it took me three sittings to get through. It really is a bad movie.

That said, I'm going to give Affleck every benefit of the doubt that he will pull this Batman gig off.

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The Director's Cut improves alot, but the poor writing for all the peripheral characters and the poor direction bring it down.

However, the characters do get a bit more development and the tone is darker.

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And that's where they would be wrong.
Spideryfan, WHY are you replying to me? After saying you wouldn't respond. Stick to your words brah.

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Yup, that indeed appears to be what he's saying, and anyone who disagrees is an Affleck fanboy.
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No, but he is trying to find everything in he book that could support his belief that Affleck isn't right for the role.
Yeah he just sounds ridiculous repeating himself over and over.

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I see this thread is in full-blown "merry go round" mode.
Just wait until we get to see what he looks like, then this place will be merry go round on crack.

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Just wait until we get to see what he looks like, then this place will be merry go round on crack.
What's going to happen when we see Snyder's take on the batcave then?


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Did Daredevil win Razzies? I thought it was considered more of a "meh" middle-of-the-road time, and it was only after-the-fact it came to be regarded as a turkey when it was tied up in a bow with Gigli, Pearl Harbour and (unfairly, IMO) Jersey Girl.

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The Director's Cut improves alot, but the poor writing for all the peripheral characters and the poor direction bring it down.

However, the characters do get a bit more development and the tone is darker.
The playground fight scene brought the movie down a ton of points for me. If only they clipped that part out for the Director's Cut as well.

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A treat for Affleck fanboys. The Playlist has made a list of Affleck's best and worst performances.

Worst: Gigli, Pearl Harbour, Daredevil
Good: Good Will Hunting, The Town, Hollywoodland

Here's the excerpts from the write-up on Affleck's Razzie winning performance in Daredevil which is beloved and celebrated by his fans here.
There’s no denying that Ben Affleck has been in some terrible movies, but we’d hazard that rarely has he been as front-and-center with his badness as he was with “Daredevil,” frequently Exhibit A in the case against having Affleck play Batman. Of course writer/director Mark Steven Johnson is hardly known for his subtle hand, and sure enough the script, story and overall direction of the film are pretty brutal. But it’s Affleck’s lead role that is the film’s biggest misstep. Affleck is the very definition of bland and blockish in the role, occasionally snarling “justice” at his adversaries, while once again managing not to find a single moment of onscreen chemistry with an actress with whom he’d go on to have an offscreen romance (Jennifer Garner as Elektra). The lumbering, sober tone sits at terrible odds with the more cartoony moments and far too often the suiting-up sequences, the to-the-rescue! moments and the squaring off for a fight segments are given such OTT treatment that the hero comes across as, of all things, a goddamn poser. And Affleck doesn’t fare much better in his Murdock moments, styled with really horrible hair and the kind of smug grin that makes you root for the bad guy, even his should-be fun scenes with sidekick Jon Favreau play flat and totally charmless.
I don't really see his Daredevil performance being "beloved" and "celebrated" on here. The actual response of his supporters seems to range from "I didn't like him as Daredevil but feel enough time has passed for him to be better as Batman" to "I wasn't a big fan of Daredevil but Affleck himself wasn't bad in it, he was let down by a bad script and poor direction." Hardly gushing, fawning fanboy adulation.

Also, do you have the link tot he full article? Seems like an interesting read.

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Never mind, I found the full article. It's weird, you picked out perhaps the single most insulting paragraph about Ben Affleck in the whole piece, but you cherry picked from an article which, in full, is overall very complimentary and reads as an impassioned defence of Ben Affleck the actor:

http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplayli...ances-20131002

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I picked the film which is relevant to this forum.

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I picked the film which is relevant to my highly negative opinion of Ben Affleck.
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I can't wait to see Snyder's take on the Bat-shark-repellent

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Personally, I don't get all the hate for Daredevil. It's not one of the better superhero films, but definitely not one of the worst. I found it perfectly entertaining when it came out, a decent popcorn superhero flick. Nothing earth-shattering, but serviceable.

That's another reason why I'm fine with Affleck as Batman (and after watching some of his more recent award-winning movies, maybe better than fine). Superman is more important than Batman to me anyway and they nailed that casting. But Affleck has all the qualifications necessary to play Batman as far as I'm concerned. Even his detractors have a hard time arguing that he doesn't look the part of Bruce Wayne, so it mostly comes down to his acting ability and/or the fact that his fame prevents people from seeing Wayne because they only see Affleck.

Affleck, IMO, is at the very least a good actor (he has won awards for some roles and been nominated for others), so the first reason doesn't wash with me. As for the second, I'm sorry if some people feel that way enough that it will ruin the movie for him. But Batman casting has always worked differently from Superman; they tend to go for a more "known" actor with the former, since Bruce Wayne is himself something of a celebrity in Gotham City.

My gut feeling is that Batfleck will be a similar experience to the Val Kilmer Batman - handsome known actor who doesn't "disappear" into the role in the same sense as Bale, but who I have no problem accepting as Bruce Wayne/Batman (and who, unlike Clooney, makes an effort to distinguish between the two personas).

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Daredevil happened. It's done.

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DP, just clicked on the first link in your sig. You pretty much hit all the arguments. It's clear that nothing is really going to change in this thread until we get the first pic of Affleck in the Batsuit.

Anyone remember what the first pic of Bale in the suit looked like? As good a Batman as he was, that Begins suit was total crap, so given Snyder's visual flair, I'm 99% certain what we see in the reveal will blow us away.

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Judging Ben Affleck's Batman on Daredevil or films from years ago is kinda stupid - it's the same as people who were judging what Cavill's Superman would be like by that Hellraiser movie from years ago. I think this is something he really wants to make a success of, so it doesn't hurt to hope for the best and to think he is going to take the role seriously. Always safe to prepare for the worst though, just in case!

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I picked the film which is relevant to this forum.
Every performance given by Ben Affleck is relevant to this forum. It was Ben Affleck cast as Batman, not Ben Affleck as Daredevil as Batman.

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