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Old 10-20-2013, 12:27 PM   #76
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Captain America is a far better film that First Class!

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First Class reached emotions greater than Cap 1 did. Just look at the death of Magneto's mother, Him hunting the Nazi's or the scene where Xavier show him the best way to control his powers. What did Cap 1 have? That scene where Bucky dies?

I thought Young Magneto and Xavier gave much better performances than what Evans did.

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Let's not hijack the thread with talk of Raimi vs TASM guys. There is a forum for that. Let's keep this X-Men/Cap focused, or somehow relate points to that topic in someway. not trash the Spidey film we favor less.

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Captain America's first half was astounding, Unfortunatelly the 2nd half was kind of a disaster. I think both movies suffer for trying to put too much into so few time. First Class wins easily.

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I really enjoy both of these films quite a bit but between the two First Class is a touch better in my book.

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Well....well...Kedrell started it!

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Action was a lot better in X:FC too.

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First Class reached emotions greater than Cap 1 did. Just look at the death of Magneto's mother, Him hunting the Nazi's or the scene where Xavier show him the best way to control his powers. What did Cap 1 have? That scene where Bucky dies?
Steve's enlistment rejection, jumping on top of the grenade, "sharing" a drink with Erksine, illustrating his dissatisfaction between performances and saying goodbye to Peggy were emotional moments in Cap that reached or exceeded, in my opinion, those in First Class. And no scene in the X-Men prequel reached the heights of the wonderfully old-timely "Star Spangled Banner Man" montage.

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heh the uso scenes were the worst part of the movie imo

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100% disagree. I love the USO material!

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Well it certainly didn't fit the mold of traditional superhero storytelling. Cap had the look and feel of a WWII epic, which is why I loved it.

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I disagree.I didn't like how they treated the classic outfit as a joke.

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I disagree.I didn't like how they treated the classic outfit as a joke.
It served Cap's arc in the story very well and I felt it also showed how Cap as a character was created partly out of war propaganda, but much like Steve in the movie, he grows into a unique hero over the years. I thought it was very effective and used the time period to its advantage.

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First Class reached emotions greater than Cap 1 did. Just look at the death of Magneto's mother, Him hunting the Nazi's or the scene where Xavier show him the best way to control his powers. What did Cap 1 have? That scene where Bucky dies?

I thought Young Magneto and Xavier gave much better performances than what Evans did.
FC's emotional moments did resonate and have more impact than the ones in TFA. The only in TFA that brought me close to tears was Cap's sacrifice at the end, which was a great scene.

But FC had many more of those moments, like the ones you mentioned as well as Erik finally killing Shaw, Charles getting shot, and Mystique leaving Charles for Magneto. Its the emotional moments in movies which make them so re-watchable, and the ones FC were just much better IMO.

Cap never had a scene so exhilarating as Erik moving the satellite and then even more Erik lifting the submarine either. These brought different emotions to the fore but were still amazing non the less.

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The story might have been predictable to those who knew Cap's origin and how he gets to the future from the comics but if sticking to the comics counts as a negative I just don't have anything to say to that other than .
Its not the reason why the movie for me was predictable. If thats the case, then First Class would have been predictable to me, knowing from the eginning that something is going to happen between Magneto/Professor X, Hank will turn blue/furry and Mystique will leave Professor X. Of course we know something is gonna happen in Captain America for the last few minutes, but that only lasted for like 5 minutes. For the entire movie, I could pretty much guess what Captain America was gonna do next and I felt like the film made him very predictable and 1 note.

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Red Skull was a fantastic villain, IMO. One of the best. He had much more distinctiveness than Bacon's bland Shaw(only Guy Pierce is a more bland super-villain,IMO). Plus RS had a wonderful back up in Jones's Zola. Shaw had the awful Emma Frost who couldn't act her way out of a paper bag in that movie.
Yeah like running from Captain America everytime he got a chance? His army was easily wiped out by Captain America. Then the way he was defeated was not good.

And at least with Sebastian Shaw, we got a sense of what he's fighting for and he really made an impact to Magneto's life. Red Skull failed to do that with Captain America.

And the lead villain's sidekicks has nothing to do whether if the lead villain is good or not. Actually Hellfire Club did more damage to the characters than Red Skull/Zola to the characters of CA.

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The coin scene was ok but in greater context it made zero sense. Basically Charles ended up being Erick's accomplice in killing Shaw. Yet we're supposed to believe he really, really, really was against it. Bull****.
Charles was there to defeat/arrest Shaw, thats the purpose of him working with the government. But killing Shaw wasn't Charles' intention.

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Captain America's first half was astounding, Unfortunatelly the 2nd half was kind of a disaster.
I actually liked the start of Captain America. I kinda felt for Steve Rogers. But once he got his super strength and he started chasing that guy who killed the doctor. The movie went downhill from that point. And that ending of "I had a date" was just not good.

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Red Skull would have made a better Saturday morning cartoon villain

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Someone here described Captain America TFA as an Indiana Jones-type flick. This captures it perfectly for me. X-Men First Class was completely different in tone, in style, in everything really.
I simply prefer Captain America because of my childhood love of Indiana Jones, that's it really

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Someone here described Captain America TFA as an Indiana Jones-type flick. This captures it perfectly for me. X-Men First Class was completely different in tone, in style, in everything really.
I simply prefer Captain America because of my childhood love of Indiana Jones, that's it really
That's pretty much how I feel.I mean,both are great movies,but the tone of Cap is what speaks to me more.It's nice to have a hero that's fairly angst free and serves as motivational.I was kinda hoping Man of Steel would be in the same vein....(but I digress)

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Red Skull was too much of a one dimensional villain, i don't think i've read any comics with him but from what i see of his past and heard from his comic prequel it seems like he was one hell of an interesting villain, and they had a great actor, it's unfortunate that they went with such a weak villain.

Shaw wasn't really anything special either but i myself found him more interesting, Kevin Bacon's performance also made him different from most other comic villains we've seen.

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Action was a lot better in X:FC too.
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I enjoyed that too.

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Azazel was badass and the final fight just sublime
The build, consequence and tension between Shaw, Prof X and Magneto is really what makes that last scene so good imo. The character's and acting are really top notch there.

The actual fighting in FC is the weakest aspect of the film for me. I know Vaughn is capable but I just don't think he had the time here, or much to work with as far as the teams combat. Mystique was helpless when it comes to fighting, Banshee Vs Angel was pretty bad, Riptide acted dense just standing around with clearly no purpose (besides the prior jet crash) in the actual final fight and Havok barely had control long enough to do anything cool. Think Nightcrawler is responsible for my underwhelming view when it comes to Azazel's stuff. Felt very rushed and loosely choreographed compared to how they used and shot Kurts teleporting in X2. Which (especially at the time) was extremely tense and visually impressive.


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I have to go Captain simply because the chemistry between Carter and Rodgers was enough for me to really enjoy it. Best I've seen since Reeves and Kidder.

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