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Old 10-21-2013, 04:47 AM   #301
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Anyone else think Cap 3 would be the perfect place to introduce Punisher (if they don't give him a TV show)?
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I'd rather Cap 3 saw Daredevil introduced to the MCU, given the type of espionage involved in Cap 2 I could see Steve Rogers on trial in Cap 3 and who better than Matt Murdock to be his lawyer?
You know, I understand the desire to see new characters introduced into the MCU, and I hope you'll forgive me, but I do wonder how it is that so many people look forward to non-Cap stuff in Cap movies.

I just don't see the same happening with the Iron Man movies, or Thor. People most often say they want Ms Marvel showing up in Captain America, rather than Iron Man, even though the Iron Man movies feature an air force officer in a main role.

But to your points, I don't think either fits in a Cap setting. Castle goes after organized and street crime, and Murdock exists in the same environment.

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Assuming my theory for Cap 2 plays out, I have no idea how Cap 3 is going to shake out. I have no idea who they will decide to use for likely Evans's last Captain America film. I feel like I know what Thor likely will be doing to some degree, and of course after Iron Man 2, we knew Mandarin would be part of Iron Man 3. Cap's 3rd film is less obvious to me. So many places they could go. Really interested to see where Cap 2 and AoU are going to leave us in regard to Steve.
I think Zemo is a fairly safe bet, possibly with flashbacks to WW2, meaning that it could involve Baron Zemo in the war, and his son / grandson hiding in S. America who tries to finish whatever his grandfather was stopped doing by Cap (and get some revenge in at the same time).

I'd love to see Cap assemble a small team of close allies (Sharon, Bucky, Falcon?) to storm Zemo's fortress Bond style in the last act.

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With Thor maybe. Or another Disney based movie before next year.
I think it's 110% safe to say that it'll be with Thor.

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You know, I understand the desire to see new characters introduced into the MCU, and I hope you'll forgive me, but I do wonder how it is that so many people look forward to non-Cap stuff in Cap movies.

I just don't see the same happening with the Iron Man movies, or Thor. People most often say they want Ms Marvel showing up in Captain America, rather than Iron Man, even though the Iron Man movies feature an air force officer in a main role.

But to your points, I don't think either fits in a Cap setting. Castle goes after organized and street crime, and Murdock exists in the same environment.
Frank doesn't ALWAYS go after street crime. He's attacked Kingpin, Doctor Doom, Norman Osborn, etc in the past. SHIELD is constantly hunting Frank, so since Cap works for SHIELD and Tony doesn't, it makes more sense for Punisher to appear in Cap. Also, the differing beliefs between Steve and Frank could make for good drama, since they do share a common military background. Rhodey is a major character because he's Tony's best friend, not because he's a Air Force officer. Carol is a military officer, just like Cap. It makes more sense to see her in a Cap movie than an IM movie for that reason alone.

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Frank doesn't ALWAYS go after street crime. He's attacked Kingpin, Doctor Doom, Norman Osborn, etc in the past. SHIELD is constantly hunting Frank, so since Cap works for SHIELD and Tony doesn't, it makes more sense for Punisher to appear in Cap. Also, the differing beliefs between Steve and Frank could make for good drama, since they do share a common military background. Rhodey is a major character because he's Tony's best friend, not because he's a Air Force officer. Carol is a military officer, just like Cap. It makes more sense to see her in a Cap movie than an IM movie for that reason alone.
I remember in some of the comics (CW, Cap's death) that Frank was shown to hold Cap in high respect, as high as the Punisher can respect anyone, and mostly because of their status as vets, I think. And because Cap is Cap.
But Frank has been shown that he respects and admires Cap.

While I think Frank and Cap have a really interesting dynamic in the comics, I don't really want The Punisher showing up in his movies. Carol, though, with her military background would be good. As a cameo even.

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Frank doesn't ALWAYS go after street crime. He's attacked Kingpin, Doctor Doom, Norman Osborn, etc in the past. SHIELD is constantly hunting Frank, so since Cap works for SHIELD and Tony doesn't, it makes more sense for Punisher to appear in Cap. Also, the differing beliefs between Steve and Frank could make for good drama, since they do share a common military background. Rhodey is a major character because he's Tony's best friend, not because he's a Air Force officer. Carol is a military officer, just like Cap. It makes more sense to see her in a Cap movie than an IM movie for that reason alone.
That doesn't even make sense. Whatever the reason is, Rhodey is still an Air Force officer on active duty, and it'd make far more sense to introduce Carol as a co-worker.

Steve, meanwhile, was an Army officer, and more importantly, was an Army officer. He's no longer on active duty.

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If they can make The Punisher a likeable, anti-hero then I see no problem with introducing him into the MCU.

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Frank doesn't ALWAYS go after street crime. He's attacked Kingpin, Doctor Doom, Norman Osborn, etc in the past. SHIELD is constantly hunting Frank, so since Cap works for SHIELD and Tony doesn't, it makes more sense for Punisher to appear in Cap. Also, the differing beliefs between Steve and Frank could make for good drama, since they do share a common military background. Rhodey is a major character because he's Tony's best friend, not because he's a Air Force officer. Carol is a military officer, just like Cap. It makes more sense to see her in a Cap movie than an IM movie for that reason alone.
It sounds as if you're saying that Rhodey is somehow less authentic as a military officer than Steve and Danvers. Rhodey is not only on active duty, he's the only active duty superhero in the MCU. He has been seen in military settings and carrying out his duties just as often as he has been portrayed palling around with Tony. There is no need to try to invalidate Rhodey's status as a US Air force officer in order to make another character look better.

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No, I'm not saying that. Don't put words in my mouth. I'm saying that he's in the IM movies specifically primarily because he's Tony's best bud. I'd have no issue with him appearing in other films. He could pop up in a Cap movie as a consequence of his military duties. Please, try and actually read my posts before accusing me of denigrating characters.

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It sounds as if you're saying that Rhodey is somehow less authentic as a military officer than Steve and Danvers. Rhodey is not only on active duty, he's the only active duty superhero in the MCU.
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Air National Guard isn't really...active duty....

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No, I'm not saying that. Don't put words in my mouth. I'm saying that he's in the IM movies specifically primarily because he's Tony's best bud. I'd have no issue with him appearing in other films. He could pop up in a Cap movie as a consequence of his military duties. Please, try and actually read my posts before accusing me of denigrating characters.
Rhodey has been War Machine in the comics for three decades. He also wore the Iron Man armor for a time. Those aspects of his history qualify him for being in the Iron Man movies just as much as his friendship with Tony. Frankly, I am disappointed that Marvel hasn't used War Machine outside of the Iron Man franchise. The character has had his own book and was a leader of the West Coast Avengers for years, as well as being a member of the main team.

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Air National Guard isn't really...active duty....
Tell that to all the Guardsmen who have served tours of duty in Iraq and Afghanistan over the last ten years.

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Isn't Sam supposed to be ex- ANG?

in any event, that's his cover, as I think he's a SHIELD agent.

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Isn't Sam supposed to be ex- ANG?

in any event, that's his cover, as I think he's a SHIELD agent.
What I heard was that he's still active duty ANG in his first appearance in the movie, and also working with the VA Hospital, but eventually becomes either a SHIELD liaison or a full-fledged agent while working with Cap.

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Tell that to all the Guardsmen who have served tours of duty in Iraq and Afghanistan over the last ten years.
Definition > Perception

"Active duty refers to a full-time occupation as part of a military force, as opposed to reserve duty. "

Guardsmen can be deployed, just like reservist. But they are not military by way of full-time career. Active duty is not reservist or weekend warrior

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I'm already calling Baron Zemo as the villian for Cap 3.
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That is quite possibly the best poster marvel has released

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Oh oh oh oh oh oh oh.

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