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Old 10-26-2013, 05:28 PM   #101
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That's not the case for me. I think movies like The Thin Red Line or The Road were very good, but they are too heavy and depressing for me to rewatch them as many times as I could with a superhero movie or a comedy.

Well a movie being good or bad is entirely within the individuals perspective. As far as I'm concerned a movie like The Thin Red Line is horrible(and what clued me into not ever being a Terrence Malick fan). But if others liked it then good for them. At least someone got something out of that pretentious snooze-fest. Never saw The Road, though I want to. Now Schindler's List I like and that's not one I rewatch much, but I can rewatch it. I enjoy certain aspects of it that help get me through the film. But while that may be high art or whatever as far as I'm concerned a simple comedy like Dumb and Dumber which is much more enjoyable is therefore IMO the better film. Subject matter/concept may be the #1 thing that gets me to initially watch a film but it doesn't factor into how well I like it much at all. How much I enjoyed a movie is and always will be my #1 ultimate standard. It's entertainment value, pure and simple.

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Well a movie being good or bad is entirely within the individuals perspective. As far as I'm concerned a movie like The Thin Red Line is horrible(and what clued me into not ever being a Terrence Malick fan). But if others liked it then good for them. At least someone got something out of that pretentious snooze-fest. Never saw The Road, though I want to. Now Schindler's List I like and that's not one I rewatch much, but I can rewatch it. I enjoy certain aspects of it that help get me through the film. But while that may be high art or whatever as far as I'm concerned a simple comedy like Dumb and Dumber which is much more enjoyable is therefore IMO the better film. Subject matter/concept may be the #1 thing that gets me to initially watch a film but it doesn't factor into how well I like it much at all. How much I enjoyed a movie is and always will be my #1 ultimate standard. It's entertainment value, pure and simple.
Well said how much you enjoy a movie is the #1 most important aspect of a film, after all that's a films main purpose to get people to enjoy it.

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Well a movie being good or bad is entirely within the individuals perspective. As far as I'm concerned a movie like The Thin Red Line is horrible(and what clued me into not ever being a Terrence Malick fan). But if others liked it then good for them. At least someone got something out of that pretentious snooze-fest. Never saw The Road, though I want to. Now Schindler's List I like and that's not one I rewatch much, but I can rewatch it. I enjoy certain aspects of it that help get me through the film. But while that may be high art or whatever as far as I'm concerned a simple comedy like Dumb and Dumber which is much more enjoyable is therefore IMO the better film. Subject matter/concept may be the #1 thing that gets me to initially watch a film but it doesn't factor into how well I like it much at all. How much I enjoyed a movie is and always will be my #1 ultimate standard. It's entertainment value, pure and simple.
My point is that I can think that a very depressing movie is great. It really makes me feel something and gives me a unique experience. I'm not going to feel up for feeling bad as often as I'm going to be up for a good laugh or an entertaining ride though.

Therefor I can rewatch a good "fun" movie more often than I will a more emotionally taxing, but great, movie. That doesn't necessarily mean I get less mileage out of the latter though since it will likely be more thought-provoking so I'll spend more time thinking about that than I will on the fun ride.

It's like food. Normal everyday food can be tasty but I'm going to enjoy a really well prepared meal better. That doesn't mean that I will feel up to advanced cooking every day.

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A movie being depressing doesn't ipso facto make it not enjoyable. Sometimes I like being disturbed just to have a new sensation. But I don't think a boring movie I can ever call good.

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That's one thing they definitely aren't calling T:TDW is "boring".

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No Marvel Studios movie is.

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Exactly

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There are two kinds of depressing movies. The type that are thought-proving and the type that aren't.

If a depressing movie is thought-provoking I will gladly watch it again and again.

I should watch Schindler's List once a year to be honest.

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Honestly I just watch SL because I'm a huge period piece junkie. It's the main reason I give that film the time of day.

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A movie being depressing doesn't ipso facto make it not enjoyable. Sometimes I like being disturbed just to have a new sensation. But I don't think a boring movie I can ever call good.
That was exactly what I said, that a depressing movie can be great. I just don't feel like having a depressing experience as often as I want to have a fun ride so that's why the fun ride is likely to get rewatched more often even if it's a worse movie.

Some movies are more demanding of you as a viewer and I think that can be very rewarding, but there are fewer times I will be up for those as I won't watch demanding movies when I'm tired, distracted etc. A movie that's just fun and entertaining can pretty much be watched at any time.

So there's many other factors than how good a movie is that affect how often I rewatch it, which was the original point.

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I've done a pretty good job of avoiding spoilers for this film. I'm not one that really follows reviews for films (there are movies that people hate that I love), but I can't wait for this and I'm glad it's getting positive reviews.

More Thor is a good thing.

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I've done a pretty good job of avoiding spoilers for this film. I'm not one that really follows reviews for films (there are movies that people hate that I love), but I can't wait for this and I'm glad it's getting positive reviews.

More Thor is a good thing.
Yeah it's pretty awesome indeed.

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If this stays in the low 80's after all is said and done I'll be on happy camper.
To be honest, I think that it will indeed stay in the 80's because even though we only have 15 reviews on RT at the moment and there are usually about 150-200 to go, so obviously it could change drastically, but I really do think it could stay low 80's or AT LEAST 78/79%.

So far, the main UK fan sites like Empire, TotalFilm, SFX, Sci-Fi Now, HeyUGuys all seem to really dig the film ALL giving it 4/5 stars, and we've still got all the American fan sites yet to review such as Collider, Joblo, ScreenRant, ComingSoon, CinemaBlend, HitFix etc and I'm sure they will give it high scores too because they have similar tastes to the UK fan sites. (IGN so far is the only 'fan' site that gave a 6.8 and didn't quite dig it as much as the sites I mentioned above, but even a 6.8 is still a 3.5/5)

It's probably only going to be the newspaper 'cranky' critic sites that probably might drop the RT score like with most comic book films, but even the UK newspaper sites are still giving it on average a 3/5 which is still good, and there aren't many 2/5 as well.


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To be honest, I think that it will indeed stay in the 80's because even though we only have 15 reviews on RT at the moment and there are usually about 150-200 to go, so obviously it could change drastically, but I really do think it could stay low 80's or AT LEAST 78/79%.

So far, the main UK fan sites like Empire, TotalFilm, SFX, Sci-Fi Now, HeyUGuys all seem to really dig the film ALL giving it 4/5 stars, and we've still got all the American fan sites yet to review such as Collider, Joblo, ScreenRant, ComingSoon, CinemaBlend, HitFix etc and I'm sure they will give it high scores too because they have similar tastes to the UK fan sites. (IGN so far is the only 'fan' site that gave a 6.8 and didn't quite dig it as much as the sites I mentioned above, but even a 6.8 is still a 3.5/5)

It's probably only going to be the newspaper 'cranky' critic sites that probably might drop the RT score like with most comic book films, but even the UK newspaper sites are still giving it on average a 3/5 which is still good, and there aren't many 2/5 as well.
I have a feeling that you're right, I guess time will tell.

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That's not the case for me. I think movies like The Thin Red Line or The Road were very good, but they are too heavy and depressing for me to rewatch them as many times as I could with a superhero movie or a comedy.
Same here, a movie can be good, but not rewatchable. Mysterious Skin was like that for me.

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Still 87% with 15 reviews.

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Still 87% with 15 reviews.
Niceeee, man oh MAN I hope hope HOPE it stays in the 80's.

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And it only needs a couple of positive reviews to reach the 90s.

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1 negative added, down to 81% now

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Damn,That guy like Iron Man 3 as well. Not a good sign.

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It sounds like it's as good as the first movie, which works for me, I love that movie. It won't work, however, for people who need every sequel to be better or the people who have unfairly thrown the first movie under a bus to hype up this one.

Two days for me.

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Damn,That guy like Iron Man 3 as well. Not a good sign.

Not necessarily, he may have wanted Maelkith to be a front for the real villain, someone like Pip the troll.

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1 negative added, down to 81% now
I hate when the score plummets because of a single bad review.

Now I'm just hoping it can stay in the 70's.

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So far no movie from the MCU has been scored rotten.

Iron Man 93%
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Iron Man 2 73%
Thor 77%
Captain America 79%
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Thor 2 ???

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I hate when the score plummets because of a single bad review.

Now I'm just hoping it can stay in the 70's.
That's how it is to have a high percentage. If you are at 90% you of course need 9 positives for every negative to maintain. With so few reviews counted there will be quite big shifts until it stabilizes. If it does stabilize of course. MoS dropped consistently during the entire time while others find their spot and stay there.

I don't care much about RT scores but for those that do it's the end result that matters. Even a 90% movie could be rated rotten for a while if you just happened to add the negative reviews first.

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