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Thor (2011) 86 38.57%
Thor: The Dark World (2013) 116 52.02%
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Old 11-02-2013, 11:11 PM   #51
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But in my opinion, people should judge on which film is better based on the story.
That's nice. That's your particular subjective bias. There are many different objective ways to enjoy a movie, as any director would tell you, and story is only one of them. I hope you're not one of those tiresome people who ascribe negative qualities to those who have other ways to enjoy movies too, but it's certainly true some do like to look down on those who enjoy the less "cerebral" *coughsuperheromovie* aspects.

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Old 11-02-2013, 11:32 PM   #52
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I watched the first Thor last night. I liked it wayyyyy more, despite the underwhelming set pieces.

It's actually has a decent heroic story.

And it actually irks how The Avengers just negates Thor's ending because 1. Loki was fine, 2. Getting back to Earth was no big deal.

TDW also undermines the ending of Thor because apparently they can just rebuild the bifrost in no time at all and he still didn't come back to see Jane.


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Old 11-02-2013, 11:45 PM   #53
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That's nice. That's your particular subjective bias. There are many different objective ways to enjoy a movie, as any director would tell you, and story is only one of them. I hope you're not one of those tiresome people who ascribe negative qualities to those who have other ways to enjoy movies too, but it's certainly true some do like to look down on those who enjoy the less "cerebral" *coughsuperheromovie* aspects.
I don't know what you're talking about.
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Hmm, so anyone who votes Thor 2 is apparently not judging the movie based on psylockolussus' criteria and is therefore wrong. Must be nice living in a fantasy world where people actually give a $@&! about your opinion. Luckily, we live in the real world where no one cares.
And yet you have a big reaction about something that I just said. Thats funny!
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Tell me about it!

I think psycolossus is passive aggressively trolling, I was trying to get this point across all last night.
There's no trolling in my post. It just you can't take negative things being said about the movie.

But I'm pretty sure if my comment was positive, you would have seen it in the other way.

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Old 11-03-2013, 01:46 AM   #54
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I have to vote The Dark World. It was not only bigger in scope, but it also had more on screen chemistry with the cast, more than the first Thor. While some of the family aspects were not as represented in this film over the previous film, it made up for with the much better effects and action sequences. Loki is in both films, so it wouldn't suit me to say that Loki is better than Malekith, when I prefer Loki in TDW over how he was in the first Thor, although I still really liked his performance in the first. I preferred Malekith over Laufey, as he seemed to be a greater threat.

TDW will definitely be a movie I see multiple times in theaters.

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Old 11-03-2013, 01:14 AM   #55
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I watched the first Thor last night. I liked it wayyyyy more, despite the underwhelming set pieces.

It's actually has a decent heroic story.
I've been watching it on Amazon Prime and Netfix. Gonna watch it before I go see the movie next Friday.

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Old 11-03-2013, 04:48 AM   #56
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I watched the first Thor last night. I liked it wayyyyy more, despite the underwhelming set pieces.

It's actually has a decent heroic story.

And it actually irks how The Avengers just negates Thor's ending because 1. Loki was fine, 2. Getting back to Earth was no big deal.

TDW also undermines the ending of Thor because apparently they can just rebuild the bifrost in no time at all and he still didn't come back to see Jane.
Bifrost probably just needed the tessaract for the power interface, rebuilding the machine is probably simple enough.
And he didn't see Jane because he has basically been forbidden to by Odin.

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Old 11-03-2013, 06:05 AM   #57
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TDW also undermines the ending of Thor because apparently they can just rebuild the bifrost in no time at all and he still didn't come back to see Jane.
In no time at all? If that was the case it should have been done by the time of The Avengers. They get it going with the Tesseract though, as it's one of the most powerful artifacts there is, but then there's a ton of work to do and Thor isn't exactly allowed to go on vacation, especially not to her. He only goes to her when something strange happened because then he can't stop himself despite his father's wishes.

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Old 11-03-2013, 06:25 AM   #58
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And it actually irks how The Avengers just negates Thor's ending because 1. Loki was fine, 2. Getting back to Earth was no big deal.
Loki was very far from fine - I got an oh sh*********t in the post-credits scene of Thor seeing Loki shadowing Erik. (If I hadn't seen that straight after, and was convinced Loki was dead for a year before seeing the Avengers, maybe I would have had a different reaction.) This is someone who was utterly utterly lost and now dedicated to pure revenge and evil, resonating in a way that someone who hadn't had that kind of almost-sympathetic origin story wouldn't have had.

"Dark energies" sounded pretty ominous to me when I was watching The Avengers. But I get that some found it a fake-out.

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Old 11-03-2013, 06:55 AM   #59
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probably more connected to the first especially with the odin/thor/loki scenes. that being said there were some heart wrenching scenes in this one. could make valid reasons for both.

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Old 11-03-2013, 07:16 AM   #60
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In no time at all? If that was the case it should have been done by the time of The Avengers. They get it going with the Tesseract though, as it's one of the most powerful artifacts there is, but then there's a ton of work to do and Thor isn't exactly allowed to go on vacation, especially not to her. He only goes to her when something strange happened because then he can't stop himself despite his father's wishes.
Didn't Feige reveal that the Dark World takes place 2 years after the Avengers? If that's the case, there you go. It took them that long to get it back up, all the while, Thor and the Warrior's Three pretty much were trying to get the Nine Realms back in order...in which case, it's been 3 years since Thor and Jane saw each other last.

Is my math correct?

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Old 11-03-2013, 07:16 AM   #61
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As for better, easily the Dark World just on the aesthetics alone. Pure and simple.

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Old 11-03-2013, 07:25 AM   #62
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Thor didn't go see Jane because he was busy fighting wars, he even says as much to her herself.

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Old 11-03-2013, 07:28 AM   #63
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Didn't Feige reveal that the Dark World takes place 2 years after the Avengers? If that's the case, there you go. It took them that long to get it back up, all the while, Thor and the Warrior's Three pretty much were trying to get the Nine Realms back in order...in which case, it's been 3 years since Thor and Jane saw each other last.

Is my math correct?
I don't remember what time frame they say in the movie but Wikipedia says two years of fighting to bring order to the Nine Realms so you should be correct.

I'm seeing it again in four hours so I'll see if the movie brings that up.

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Old 11-03-2013, 07:43 AM   #64
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^I'm pretty sure the movie states that its two years since the Avengers,cant remember which character said it but i'm pretty certain its said in the movie.

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^I'm pretty sure the movie states that its two years since the Avengers,cant remember which character said it but i'm pretty certain its said in the movie.
It should be stated by Jane when Thor comes back.

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Old 11-03-2013, 04:17 PM   #66
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In an article that was talking about the things we know about Thor: The Dark World, it said the movie takes place a year and a half after the first Thor.

2 years after Avengers doesn't make sense to me. We see Loki's trial in this movie, they wouldn't wait 2 years to do it.

Edit: Here's the link to the article: http://m.collider.com/collider/#!/en...27f5d9d02b0ab0


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Old 11-03-2013, 04:24 PM   #67
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Thor 2 by far for me. I enjoyed the first one but I agreed with the complaints that there wasn't enough asgard and a lot of characters didn't get much development. I thought TDW had a better balance between earth characters and the asgardian ones. Better action scenes too although I would agree Thor had a better story.

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In an article that was talking about the things we know about Thor: The Dark World, it said the movie takes place a year and a half after the first Thor.

2 years after Avengers doesn't make sense to me. We see Loki's trial in this movie, they wouldn't wait 2 years to do it.

Edit: Here's the link to the article: http://m.collider.com/collider/#!/en...27f5d9d02b0ab0
Loki's trial is a flashback scene.

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Old 11-03-2013, 04:35 PM   #69
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I saw the movie again and the time frame is mentioned at the end, by Darcy. She says it was 2 years between Thor and TDW, basically indicating that the movies are separated by roughly the same time frame as they are released.

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Old 11-04-2013, 09:56 AM   #71
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I like Thor: The Dark World a tad bit more than the first one. They have similar highs, but T:TDW is more solid as a whole.

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Old 11-05-2013, 01:13 AM   #72
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Still between both movies the best 5 seconds is when Thor regains Mjolnir in the first movie and stands in the classic Thor pose with hammer above head, great music in that scene too.

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Old 11-05-2013, 02:22 AM   #73
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I liked the character arc for Thor in the first one more, because it was his origin story and it was fun seeing him be a brat. I think we also got more meaty story and emotional depth. However, I am perpetually annoyed at the blockbuster format seemingly mandating that Thor's "learning humility on Midgard" arc be only 3 days, because it made his turnaround seem less realistic, and his romance-across-the-stars with Jane seem like a fleeting crush. I also found while a decent attempt had been made at Loki's character arc, there were parts of it that just seemed a bit inexplicable to me. (The plot felt chopped about.) Also I thought Asgard and the costumes looked less golden fantasy than tacky. Both good movies, I think I prefer the latter one however.

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Old 11-05-2013, 03:23 PM   #74
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I voted "Tie"...
I just can't decide!

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