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Old 11-08-2013, 06:04 PM   #51
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Still my favorite X-Men film. McKellen is at his absolute best in this one, especially in the "god among insects" scene where he recruits Pyro- this is remarkably powerful, to this day.

Famke is great too, a perfect balance of characters- only qualm is I'd like Cyclops to play a larger role, especially knowing that he had so little time left.

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Still my favorite X-Men film. McKellen is at his absolute best in this one, especially in the "god among insects" scene where he recruits Pyro- this is remarkably powerful, to this day.
I loved that scene until he gives that look at Mystique like saying "he bought it, lol." I think the whole scene would have been better if he was 100% honest. Why wouldn't he, anyways?

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Old 03-19-2014, 05:47 PM   #53
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X2 - 4th best Marvel comic book movie according to WhatCulture:
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After the first movie had established the universe and resulted in both critical and commercial success, Bryan Singer was now able to make the X-Men movie he had always wanted to. Armed with a bigger budget and several new characters, the sequel increases the personal stakes while also spectacularly upping the ante when it came to the action sequences.

Opening with Nightcrawler’s thrilling assault on the White House, the mixture of practical and CGI effects instantly establish that the scope of the movie has been expanded greatly. From there, the scale of the action keeps increasing; the attack on Charles Xavier’s mansion sees Wolverine go on the rampage in impressive style, before the extended third-act at Alkali Lake mixes close-quarters combat with superpowered destruction. It’s not all just mindless set-pieces, and much like the first movie the narrative carries undertones of love, loss, tragedy, and of course prejudice in Iceman’s famous ‘coming out’ scene. As emotional as it is action-packed, X-Men 2 is unquestionably one of the best comic book sequels ever made.

The popularity of the first installment and the rise of the superhero genre saw X-Men 2 open to $85.6m at the domestic box office, and the sequel would significantly out-gross its predecessor on its way to a worldwide total of $407.7m. The quality of the movie, as well as the closing shot, ensured that the inevitable third chapter had a lot to live up to. Unfortunately, it couldn’t deliver.
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Old 05-19-2014, 03:37 AM   #54
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Just finished rewatching it in preparation for DoFP. I always remembered loving this movie, but seeing it again now reminded me how incredible it really was. Just reminded me so much of the 90's Animated series when seeing such great group shots at the mansion at the beginning and together in uniform at the end of the movie. It's a shame that (in my opinion) none of the other movies have felt like this. First Class was great in its own right, but I just yearn to see Cyclops, Jean, Storm, Logan, Ect. as the core of the team.

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Just rewatched the film today. It's amazing how well it has held up. Even if it was released today, I think it would be praised. The performances are very strong, great character development for an ensemble piece, the social commentary still remains very relevant, the dialogue doesn't even seem nearly as hokey as many modern CBMs, and I love how the majority of the film - especially the ending - sacrifices major action set pieces for a more contemplative, philosophical exchange of ideas. The finale with the president is brilliant, and the grounded tone of the film was ahead of it's time. Lovely film.

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Re-watched this. I was floored by how good this movie is. Only negative is Scott's presence in this movie could have been bigger and better.

1. DOFP 9/10
2. X2 8.5/10
3. The wolverine 8.5/10
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Old 06-08-2014, 03:55 PM   #57
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I've watched all of them again, I still like X2 the best. It's a long movie but the scenes are very well structured, so it's actually fast and very logical, the story flows naturally and artistically (especially the scenes with Nightcrawler). Rebecca Romjin makes an amazing Mystique - my favorite mutant, even when she kills she's graceful and humorous. "Because we shouldn't have to".
Ian McKellen - wow - hands down! "Mr. Laurio - never trust a beautiful woman, especially one who's interested in you!".
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"Bobby, have you tried... not being a mutant?" LOL

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Except now perhapes the best X-Men film Is now totally ilrelvent to series now.

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Old 06-09-2014, 01:42 AM   #59
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Not to me, it isn't.

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Except now perhapes the best X-Men film Is now totally ilrelvent to series now.
We don't know that yet.

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Old 06-09-2014, 11:26 AM   #61
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Yeah we do.All non-FC films are now erased from contunity.

We have people here arguring the OT cast had nothing to do with success of DOFP,that casting of youn Cyclops,Jean,and storm shouldn't be concerned with ending of DOFP,and
rail against some OT being In Apocalypse.

Once you start taking films out of contunity they are ilrelvent.

X2 matters to Apocalypse and beyond as much as dark trilogy matters to BVS,The original Star trek to Nutrek3,any of the precraig bond films to Bond4,sorry it can't be called bond 24,and Terminator genesis to terminator 1 and 2 after the tiem travel in film also erases the past.

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Old 06-10-2014, 01:05 AM   #62
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They aren't erased. They just now took place in the 1st timeline of the series.

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Old 06-10-2014, 12:45 PM   #63
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I don't play this timeline game.The completion of time travel mission In DOFP Is ending of
original chracters as we knew them from X_Men on.

Nothing In X2 will happen now.Now we will almost certinly see actors from past Non-FC
again but they really won't be characters from X2 and other non-FC films

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Old 06-11-2014, 02:59 AM   #64
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Sure but is that so different from the OT cast doing a X5 X6 X7 movie in the same timeline with the original trilogy? They aren't always gonna look back what happened in the original trilogy.

And you keep forgetting the scene with Beast in DOFP, it was said that even if you throw a stone in the river of time and you create a ripple, the variables of time will somehow fix the ripples. Meaning just because you changed 1 thing in the past, doesn't mean everything that happens in the future is up in the air. Why do you think Rogue still got the white streak and all of the X-Men we saw in X-Men 3 are there at the end? Some things changed but not all of them.

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You should listen to kinberg's latest podcast.He doesn't challenge the notion of
FC as reboot.Reboot meaning other film didn't happen before DOFP was even made.Exceppt for using clips what really Is there to connect DOFP to other films including X2 apart from actors.

Rachel Summers was in first draft of DOFP and makes comment of in this timeline nightcrawler Is mystique's son.

He makes comment with regard to the scene your talking about that the ending shows the tide of history Is changed.

Showing rogue with white streak doesn't mean that Is connected to X-Men 1.
It simply means she has it like In Comics.

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Its a good thing Simon Kinberg doesn't call all the shots.

And what I meant with Rogue having white streak is, no matter how different the new timeline is, there are certain things that will be similar to the original cast and that includes Rogue having white streak, she is meant to get that just like how Beast/Colossus/Cyke/Jean/Storm/Iceman/Kitty/Rogue/Wolverine all ending up in the X-mansion.

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Preach psylockolussus! I totally agree.

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Question!

So I was reading X2 in Wikipedia and saw this:

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Is this for real?

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I must admit, this movie and X1 grow on me every time I saw them, even though they can't reach FC and DOFP.

regarding the timeline debate here, just before DOFP release, Fox made a website called 25moments featuring 25 key moments defining mutants/humans relationship.
these moments were all connected to FC movie, it began in fact with the Cuban Missiles Crisis we saw in the movie, then the moments and the events went in a way that can't fit in the original trilogy, crisis between mutants and humans/governments was really intense since before X1, so many quasi-revolutions were led by mutants, they even were involved in some global events like Berlin Wall.
So, my theory is : FC and DOFP are already in a different timeline than the trilogy.
Hank McCoy in DOFP said something about course correction as a natural and inevitable feature in the universe, so either through the events of FC/DOFP or the trilogy, we will end up in a situation of crisis between mutants and humans, with different paths and events. While the events in the FC timeline were successive and intense throughout the years following 1962 until 2023, the events in the trilogy were more calm and less global. But the result is basically the same. some events could occur in both timelines, Jean & Scott also died in the FC timeline.

Also, in the original trilogy, sentinels weren't there, or at least not in a way that could justify their massive number in the post apocalyptic 2023.

So, FC and DOFP are in a totally different timeline, which itself got a third timeline after Wolverine was sent to the past in DOFP.


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To simplize things just accept that FIrst Class was prequel to trilogy and after time travel events of DOFP only First Class and 1973,new 2023,and POst Credit scene of DOFP are cannon going Into Apocalypse.

Do I like the fact X2 has now been basicly erased from cannon.No.But.that's reality of situation.

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^ do we know that for sure?


X2 should be placed on Netflix for a while, so as to promote DOFP !!!

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Apocalypse and any other past X_Men films won't lead to X2.

People will still have X2 on their dvd or blu-ray collections but as far as being part of "Cannon" of films anymore it's not after time travel events of DOFP.

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Well, I don't see why it didn't lead there. The timeline changed, but it doesn't mean stryker didn't go through a similar life that lead to him plotting to use cerebro to exterminate the mutant race. jean grey is back but it could be that the jet flew off or that she came back as phoenix...

I don't see the hard proof that it's no longer "canon" other than the fact that a few things are no longer the same.

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