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This leaves the street level properties as characters who won't be involved in films until Phase 4, if ever. That clears the slate for Phase 3 to not exclude fan favorites while giving fans most of Marvel's characters in a live action format. I really hope it works out so there can be Runaways and Punisher shows before the end of Phase 3.
I mean, with Phase 3, we're now getting Doctor Strange and Ant-Man with the possibility of Captain Marvel and Black Panther and talk of potential Hulk and Thor sequels. I mean, it's pretty complete. Let's assume that Phase 3 is meant to run until 2019. that allows for older properties to get sequels and new properties to have some room to breathe while allowing Marvel studios to grow to the point of (almost) 3 films a year by the end. Last edited by Dasher10; 11-10-2013 at 12:23 PM. |
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Am i the only one who feels that three films a year from Disney Marvel ontop of all the others from other studios will just lead to an oversaturation burnout?
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I think they can do two major films and a small off-season film. But three big films will be a problem if DC/WB ever increases their speed. It won't kill the genre, but it could make it much more competitive as suddenly the big summer superhero movie may not be a big deal anymore, which could very much skewer either Marvel or DC.
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Saturation is a risk, but the backlash, if any is realized, will hit WB, Sony and FOX well before it impacts Marvel. |
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The backlash could definitely hit Marvel if WB plays its cards right. For a smaller set up like Marvel Studios it's the equivalent of going 'all in.' If that kind of bet is not necessary or you're not truly sure that the opponent has nothing to fire back with, it's best to just play smart and build slowly.
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Disney will be fine. But if Marvel Studios shows that it is not the guarantee it is right now, it will affect their relationship with the parent company.
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Same could also be said if James Cameron becomes so obsessed with his Avatar franchise that he decides to make large numbers of spin off movies and even TV shows based of his Avatar Universe. With the exception of the Muppets, Disney could have two oversaturated franchises in Star Wars and Marvel if they don't play their cards right.
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agreed, I liked the idea of Batman vs superman. Not Batman vs Superman with Wonderwoman and Nightwing nearby with the Flash running around. At this point make it justice league and be done with it.
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I'll be the first to say that "More TV shows is not inherently a good idea."
If they are anything like Agents of SHIELD I'd go so far as to say that more TV shows is a bad idea. But it is a good idea to try a new medium in Netflix. Hopefully they are more enjoyable and more mature.
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But what I'm worried about is the quality. IMO Agents of Shield is not a good show at all, the worst thing that came from Marvel Studios so far. Thor 2 disappointed me and even though I didn't hate Iron Man 3, some people reacted to it like as if its the worst thing ever.
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There's huge differences between the genre and tone of, say, an Iron Man movie versus a Thor movie, versus a Captain America movie, versus a GOTG movie, versus a Batman movie, versus an X-Men movie, versus a Spidey movie. I don't understand how anyone in their right mind would even consider these vastly different takes on a genre in danger of leading to "oversaturation burnout."
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True, but I'm not certain of the opposite either, not certain enough to bet Marvel Studios' health on anyway, especially as continuing the path they're on if WB really doesn't have the cards, they'll fold on the Superhero game before we get to Avengers 4 anyway.
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Also, while superhero films vary in tone and setting, horror films vary widely in terms of character types, story arcs and outcomes, as well as tone and setting. So, there are fewer rules, and even when those are broken, the film is lauded for being groundbreaking not sniped because "I didn't see enough horror tropes." So there's more variety in horror, same with romantic comedies, so much so that they have sub categories like bromances. This is in addition to if a film is "one film too many" the company loses something like 30M instead of 300M. And there can be too many cop dramas, they too have limited character types and settings.
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The superhero genre does not *require* a $150 million budget. The upcoming Netflix shows showcasing Daredevil, Luke Cage, Iron Fist and Jessica Jones will be proof of that. Not all superheroes fly, fling enemies through skyscrapers, or shoot lightning bolts out of their ass. Some are just pretty ordinary dudes in some extraordinary circumstances.
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I agree op, it's a very clever way to make use of various different media too
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When I say "almost" I mean that as two films and TV plans, possibly with a street level hero in a film released in the winter if there's a spring and summer film in that year, possibly the winter after every couple of years. I'm not suggesting that there be three films every year, at that point, the quality will go down as the producers won't be as involved and they'll just be rushing things out the door. I'd rather see longer phases than what we got for Phase 2 as new film franchises are added than see too much per year.
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LOL!
They actually have flooded the Market, so if you come up with a new Cop drama it has to have some spectacular 'hook.' Quote:
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But the fact that the vast majority of the industry and all the much sought after characters require $300M, shows why there can be too many, even if there's room for a few more low budget franchises.
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However in the TV dept i agree, with Agents of Shield and Ultimate Deadpoolman and friends being what they are i'm concerned for these new Netflix shows. I'm mostly looking forward to Iron Fist and Daredevil, hopefully those who pull the strings of AOS and US don't pull the strings on these
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