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Old 11-11-2013, 10:21 AM   #101
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Kevin Feige did touch on The Avengers sequel and X-Men: Days of Future Past have the Quicksilver speedster in common:

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“There are only a handful of characters that occupy that middle ground. Iron Man is not going to show up over there and Magneto is not going to show up over here. But there are a few gray points even after many years of negotiations…and that only happens with a character like Quicksilver, who has been a part of the X-Men, the son of Magneto in those comics, but also a primary Avenger. The characters (on the screen) are going to be very different. Other than their powers, general audiences might not even know — unless they read your article — that the two are related.
What is the "few gray points"? Wolverine?

Edit: Feige (supposedly) says there are no current plans to do 3 MCU films a year but didn't rule it out totally.


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Old 11-11-2013, 10:24 AM   #102
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What is the "few gray points"? Wolverine?
I think gray points mean things like Skrulls, Quicksilver, etc. More minor characters. If Marvel was allowed to make their own Wolverine films, they would have shoe horned him in by now.

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Honestly, I don't mind Pym not creating Ultron because it seems like the two things that have defined Pym is hitting Wasp and Creating Ultron.

Now Pym could possibly be recoginized as just being an interesting character.

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Well Edgar does have a arc for Pym in his Ant-Man film which is what has kept him out of the Avengers so whatever it is I hope it is good.

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Making Tony create Ultron *does* feel forced to me, because I have yet to hear a believable reason from anybody for that to happen. Everybody fixates on the fact that he's definitely *qualified* to design a killer robot; but nobody can come up with a valid reason for him to want to do so. Especially considering that (a) he's out of the weapons business now, (b) he's all about the human element being more important than the mechanical one, and (c) he despises these fascist and globalist governments who keep trying to commandeer/steal his tech for evil ends. Tony Stark would actually be the last person on earth to think that designing a killer robot is somehow a good idea.
For the same reason he had an Iron Man proxy in the beginning of Iron Man 3. So that he can do something else (in this case, Pepper), and still protect the world or whatever. Giving this proxy a human element Jarvis-style and keeping it out of SHIELD hands, makes sense, but that doesn't mean he's not motivated to create the thing.

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If we see reports of Paul Bettany on the set of Age of Ultron, does that mean he's Vision?

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No... it means he came down for a visit for kicks. But we will all automatically assume that he's Vision, anyway. Those who don't want him to be vision will argue adamantly against it, at least until pictures of him in a CGI checkerboard costume show up.

It does suggest JARVIS is in the movie, but that's a bit unavoidable, really.

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I do hope in Avengers 3, we get to see some diversity. I don't think we'll see it in this film outside of Nick Fury. Out of the other black characters introduced though in MCU (Rhodey, Falcon, Gabe Jones), Falcon has the best chance of being an Avenger in this film. I don't see it though.

I hope it's going to be Falcon, Rhodey, Black Panther or even Wasp in Avengers 3 that provides the Avengers with some much needed color, although Rashida Jones (if she becomes Janet) is mixed.

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I do hope in Avengers 3, we get to see some diversity. I don't think we'll see it in this film outside of Nick Fury. Out of the other black characters introduced though in MCU (Rhodey, Falcon, Gabe Jones), Falcon has the best chance of being an Avenger in this film. I don't see it though.

I hope it's going to be Falcon, Rhodey, Black Panther or even Wasp in Avengers 3 that provides the Avengers with some much needed color, although Rashida Jones (if she becomes Janet) is mixed.
I was too lazy to check for this, but is Rashida Jones rumored to be Janet? I love Rashida Jones...

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I think gray points mean things like Skrulls, Quicksilver, etc. More minor characters. If Marvel was allowed to make their own Wolverine films, they would have shoe horned him in by now.
Polaris would probably also qualify.

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Yes, that is the rumor.

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Polaris would probably also qualify.
eh... i doubt it. she was souly an X-men character up until recently. That's sorta like saying Mr. Fantastic and Sue Richards can show up in a Avengers film because they're avengers too...

I think the "grey area" is more about what they're associated with more or if it's hard to tell...

the Skrull, Kree, SW and QS are all very arguable in that department. I don't think Polaris is very arguable. She's much much much more heavily rooted in X-men lore than anything else.

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Elizabeth Olsen finally confirms that she'll be Scarlet Witch:

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=111278

She's looking good in this interview.

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Her confirmation is good news!

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I don't think we will see Quicksilver all that much in DOFP. He'll have more of a role in this one.

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She also confirmed ATJ as Quicksilver, cool. Also, I'm sure her comment about them being BF/GF in Godzilla and brother/sister in AOU is in no way going to lead a tons of Ultimates jokes.

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I do hope in Avengers 3, we get to see some diversity. I don't think we'll see it in this film outside of Nick Fury. Out of the other black characters introduced though in MCU (Rhodey, Falcon, Gabe Jones), Falcon has the best chance of being an Avenger in this film. I don't see it though.

I hope it's going to be Falcon, Rhodey, Black Panther or even Wasp in Avengers 3 that provides the Avengers with some much needed color, although Rashida Jones (if she becomes Janet) is mixed.
Maravel does have a diversity problem with the Avengers lineup. They need heroes of color (I'd desperately want Rhodey or Falcon or for A:AOU to introduce T'Challa! If Rashida Jones is Wasp? ) and more women heroes. Scarlet Witch is great. There's a little to critique that they're not going Eastern European/Romani for Wanda. Elizabeth Olsen is a great up-and-coming actress though, so I'm glad they found a spot for her in a Marvel film.

They really did pick a great group for Guardians though. So I do think they recognize the need for racial and gender representation in their movies.

I really hope that Marvel diversifies in Phase three. It's not a just a Marvel problem though, and I understand why they cast movies the way they have. I'm just hoping it gets better.

I'm really glad to get confirmation that Olsen is SW. I can't wait to see the official announcement for the next Phase III movies are

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the Avengers officially have the hottest women (or they will if they can lure Rashida Jones to the party).

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Let's just say if multiple Avengers are responsible for his creation, his so-called "daddy issues" aren't gone. They're there. Except it would be more of the My Three Dads ilk.

seems apt. Pym is kind of the Guttenberg of that trio.

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eh... i doubt it. she was souly an X-men character up until recently. That's sorta like saying Mr. Fantastic and Sue Richards can show up in a Avengers film because they're avengers too...

I think the "grey area" is more about what they're associated with more or if it's hard to tell...

the Skrull, Kree, SW and QS are all very arguable in that department. I don't think Polaris is very arguable. She's much much much more heavily rooted in X-men lore than anything else.
Then why is Deadpool only with Fox? I consider him as much of a "street hero" as he is an X-Men character.

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